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Does Right of Centre = Revisionist?

Postby borjastick » 3 months 2 weeks ago (Fri May 31, 2019 7:04 am)

A Friday afternoon musing...

Just been listening to a podcast by James Delingpole the well know English journalist who is best known for his very strongly held anti man made global warming feelings upon which he regularly lets rip.

This particular podcast was an interview with an Irish academic/scientist Ronan Connolly who takes the opposing position on MMGW, that is that we are all to blame etc etc. His theory is that the left wing are believers in MMGW and the right wing are not.

So that got me thinking about the holocaust and its believers against us lot.

Does the same theory apply? Are revisionists all right wing and believers all left wing?

My impression is that the theory doesn't wash with us, that revisionists are from all backgrounds, educational achievement and political sway.

I know several London and UK based revisionists who I have met many times and enjoyed their company. These people are largely better educated than myself and I would guess are mostly on the left of the political spectrum. For myself I am college educated and usually vote centre right. I am not a Nazi, Hitler sympathiser or extreme right wing.

However we do know that holocaust believers and in particular jews, are generally left wing/socialists.

Just a thought.
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Re: Does Right of Centre = Revisionist?

Postby Lamprecht » 3 months 2 weeks ago (Fri May 31, 2019 8:27 am)

Not all revisionists are right wing.

Paul Rassinier and Roger Garaudy were communist or socialist.
Some Leftist revisionists: Pierre Guillaume, Serge Thion, David Cole

I think left wingers are more concerned about "expert opinion" and "authoritative sources" rather than the actual substance of the arguments. Kevin Macdonald wrote about this q bit in his chapter on Jewish involvement in radical leftist movements, if I remember correctly.

Modern [radical] leftists are also very oversocialized, and when denying the mainstream "holocaust" story or "global warming" is seen as evil, they will turn off their brain or put up some filter to keep out the 'politically incorrect' thoughts. It is claimed that "holocaust denial" is somehow a justification for killing or persecuting jews, and that "climate change denial" justifies destroying the planet.

But in reality, a study showed that climate alarmists are actually less likely to recycle or do positive things for the environment than skeptics. Also, left wingers are the ones who promote the most racially discriminatory policies, affirmative action and imprisoning so-called "neo-nazis" for exercising their free speech.

Some of the most ardent believers of the holocaust are conservative christian zionists.
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Re: Does Right of Centre = Revisionist?

Postby Hannover » 3 months 2 weeks ago (Fri May 31, 2019 11:17 am)

Bradley Smith, founder of CODOH, was very left wing.

- Hannover

No alleged human remains of millions in allegedly known locations to see, no 'holocaust'.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: Does Right of Centre = Revisionist?

Postby borjastick » 3 months 2 weeks ago (Fri May 31, 2019 12:16 pm)

Hannover wrote:Bradley Smith, founder of CODOH, was very left wing.

- Hannover

No alleged human remains of millions in allegedly known locations to see, no 'holocaust'.


There you go then I've learned something that I didn't see coming. Thanks for that H.
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Re: Does Right of Centre = Revisionist?

Postby Hannover » 3 months 2 weeks ago (Fri May 31, 2019 5:05 pm)

borjastick wrote:There you go then I've learned something that I didn't see coming. Thanks for that H.

CODOH founder Bradley Smith was always very open about who he was.

Back in the day Smith also owned a bookshop in Hollywood that was packed with leftist / Marxist 'radical' material. That bookshop was raided at least once by the FBI.

Smith's first wife was a leftist Jew. And no, the reason for separation was not his Revisionism.

I believe Smith talks about all of this in some of his writing that are available at CODOH.

Cheers mate, Hannover

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Re: Does Right of Centre = Revisionist?

Postby Lamprecht » 3 months 2 weeks ago (Fri May 31, 2019 5:32 pm)

Bradley Smith seems to suggest he is a libertarian here:


Libertarianism and Revisionism
https://codoh.com/library/document/544/


Richard A. Widmann also is left leaning. Here's an article by him, seems to be somewhat relevant to the subject:

Totalitarian Liberalism
https://codoh.com/library/document/1911/

Pioneering revisionist historian Harry Elmer Barnes commented that, “Senator Margaret Chase Smith has accused Senator McCarthy of having unloosed ‘the Four Horsemen of Calumny –Fear, Ignorance, Bigotry and Smear.’” He explained however in his “The Chickens of the Interventionist Liberals have come home to Roost” that such techniques had long been practiced by what he dubbed the “totalitarian liberals.” The principle attacks noted by Barnes were those against any who opposed American entry into the Second World War. Barnes complained that even the iconic Franklin Roosevelt smeared anti-interventionists by comparing them to revolutionary war traitor Benedict Arnold.

The passing of nearly 60 years since Smith’s speech and Barnes retort have been witness to a terrible erosion of the basic principles that both sought to uphold. Americans have sacrificed their right to hold unpopular beliefs on the altar of political correctness. Freedom of speech has been so abused that many fear to exercise it today.

“Totalitarian liberals” and “Totalitarian conservatives” in Congress are quick to use fear, ignorance, bigotry and the smear against those who hold unpopular beliefs. The smear is not only used against those who write inconvenient histories of the Second World War but against any who don’t talk the new “official” party lines of political correctness.

Certain topics have become taboo to historical investigation. Chief among these is the Holocaust. This topic has become so politically charged that open investigation is prohibited in many countries around the world with free thinkers and investigators facing criminal charges, incarceration and censorship which reminds one more of Torquemada than McCarthy.

While any critical analysis of the events that comprise the Holocaust may be prohibited or simply avoided, the Holocaust itself is at the center of the tornado that is “liberal totalitarianism” today. There is such a strong desire to find and teach the lessons of the Holocaust that a central point appears to be lost. The lesson of the Holocaust has evolved into one that suggests that all people of good conscience must stand opposed to all forms of intolerance and hatred at all costs. Failure to do so will allow future or present-day Hitlers to rise to power once again.
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Re: Does Right of Centre = Revisionist?

Postby Lothario » 3 months 2 weeks ago (Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:31 am)

Lamprecht wrote:Not all revisionists are right wing.

Paul Rassinier and Roger Garaudy were communist or socialist.
Some Leftist revisionists: Pierre Guillaume, Serge Thion, David Cole



David Cole is definitely not left wing. He was, until his outing as revisionist, very active in Republican circles and known as 'The Republican Party Animal'. That is also the name of his autobiography, which I, by the way, highly recommend.
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