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Buchenwald Post and Historical Contradictions

Postby JLAD Prove Me Wrong » 3 months 4 days ago (Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:59 pm)

I got this in my feed.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 6736949760


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On this day, April 11, 1945, at 3:15PM, the U.S. 9th Armored Infantry Division arrived at a place called Buchenwald. It would be the first Nazi concentration camp discovered...and the smallest.

As Captain Fred Keffer describes the scene, "we came upon this large concentration camp and, above the entrance was a German sign that read 'you get what you deserve'. What we found there scared us more than a hail of machine gun bullets...thousands of human skeletons walking around...we had never seen such horror...not even the horror of war could surpass it."

The Jewish prisoners, despite their skeletal bodies, were so overwhelmed with joy that they made frantic attempts to lift their liberators into the air, shouting with joy at their survival. 56,000 did not survive; they were used as human "lab rats" to test typhus injections, enduring white phosphorus poured over their bodies, then timed to see how quickly they died. Some of the dead were skinned, their skin to make lampshades for the Nazi elite. Over 1100 were shot in the back of the head, a thousand Jewish women were peeled off and sent to the camp whorehouse. The vast majority just died from overwork in Nazi factories.

As the Americans moved through the camp they found one building, meant to house 12 horses, occupied by over 1200 prisoners, mostly those so starved or sick they could not rise from their wooden slat beds. At first the Americans were horrified, even scared to look on these remnants of human beings. Then they became quite angry. Captain Keffer ordered the Mayor of a nearby town to free up all the food stored in store rooms, and all the food in local markets and bring that food to the starving prisoners. The emaciated prisoners ate like wolves, then, unused to such generous meals, threw it all up, wiped their mouths, and began eating again. Many were too sick to eat; American G.I.'s would spoon feed broth to these wretched folks...until they could once again tolerate solid food.

Despite the horror of Buchenwald, even greater horrors would be revealed as the Americans began liberating all of the Jewish concentration camps. Tragically, for nearly 7 million Jews that liberation would come too late.

As we watch events unfolding in the Middle East, and here in our own country, as we see rising anti-semitism and hostility to Christians from our liberal elite, we should never forget the capacity to destroy by those who believe "their beliefs" are the only beliefs and everyone else can go to hell.

Sorry to rain on your Saturday morning parade this morning...but we should never forget these things.


As I understand, the exterminationist position is that Buchenwald was a work camp, not a death camp. Plus, Americans did not liberate a single alleged death camp - exterminationism teaches that it was the Soviets who did that.

And this article mentions 7,000,000 Jews. Do they mean that 7,000,000 died in the Holocaust, or that there were 7,000,000 Jews in Buchenwald? Both yet again contradict the exterminationist premises.
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Re: Buchenwald Post and Historical Contradictions

Postby Lamprecht » 3 months 4 days ago (Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:04 pm)

Some of the dead were skinned, their skin to make lampshades for the Nazi elite
:lol: :roll:

The 7 million is for the total number of jews
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Re: Buchenwald Post and Historical Contradictions

Postby flimflam » 3 months 4 days ago (Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:06 am)

You might respond with this photo, dated Apri 13, 1945 and showing ...

04-13-45 Concentration Buchenwald - Liberation. After the liberation of Buchenwald concentration camp, soldiers of the 3rd US Army are leading children and young people to the American sanitary station. | usage worldwide - Image ID: KE93F7


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Re: Buchenwald Post and Historical Contradictions

Postby Hektor » 3 months 4 days ago (Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:51 am)

Lamprecht wrote:
Some of the dead were skinned, their skin to make lampshades for the Nazi elite
:lol: :roll:

The 7 million is for the total number of jews

The lamp shade story was recorded by Eugen Kogon in "The Theory And Practice Of Hell"
https://archive.org/details/EugenKogonT ... ll/page/n2
In the book it's noted:
On April 16, 1945, five days after the first American armored units had arrived, an Intelligence Team from the Psychological Warfare Division visited the Buchenwald concentration camp. Its mission w'as to study the situation and to prepare a comprehensive report for Supreme Headquarters, Allied Expeditionary Forces (SHAEF), The report was to show how a German concentration camp was organized, what role was assigned to it in the Nazi State and what happened to those who were sent to the camps by the Gestapo and detained there by the SS.

...Under the direction of Lieutenant Albert G. Rosenberg, the members of the team. Max M, Kimcntal, Richard Akselrad, Alfred H. Sampson and Ernest S, Biberfeld, began to lay the groundwork for an objective and conclusive report. Their own work in helping to dissolve the camp quickly made them realize that it was quite impossible for outsiders to gain even an approximately accurate picture of the complex situation within the camp and to evaluate its true significance. Such a task could be carried out only in close collaboration with a few reliable camp inmates who had no axe to grind. Kogon was asked to take over this job.

The initial report was completed in Weimar within about a month. Constant liaison was maintained with the camp and the numerous groups of former prisoners, and rather formidable difficulties had to be overcome, as will become evident from many of the chapters in this book. The first report comprised some 400 typewritten pages, single-spaced. There was a main report of 125 pages which Kogon himself had dictated, and approximately 150 statements from individual prisoners who* by virtue of their experience, had been asked to give their view's on various facts, incidents, persons and phases. Kogon's chief collaborators were the Socialist writer Ferdinand Romhild; Heinz Baumeister of Dortmund, a Social Democrat; and Stefan Heymann, an orthodox Communist editor with whom Kogon was on excellent terms, although Heymann had been detailed by the Communist leadership in camp to serve as a check on him,


Apparently Edward Tenenbaum was the first two non-captive Allied personnel to enter Buchenwald concentration camp, on April 11, 1945.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_A._Tenenbaum

He made the following report:
https://archive.org/details/EdwardTenen ... rt/page/n8
and notes on lamp shades from human skin:
Whenever a prisoner was found with a more than ordinary tattoo, he was killed, his skin was stripped, and the tattooed portion was tanned. Some extraordinary objects were made from these, including a famous lamp shade.

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Of course a lamp shade was also put on the display table by the psychological warfare division when they drove civilians through the camp:
https://archive.org/details/AlliesBully ... reDivision
I assume Allied soldiers got a similar presentation.

The sykewar involvement should make people suspicious. And the whole narrative is so embellished one would expect a mature, intelligent person to dismiss it.

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Re: Buchenwald Post and Historical Contradictions

Postby Hannover » 3 months 3 days ago (Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:23 pm)

Rarely mentioned is the fact that at Buchenwald, Bergen-Belsen, & Dachau, most of the deaths occurred after the Allies arrived.

Not to be missed, you'll see the staged 'human skin lampshade, shrunken heads, tattooed skin' placed on tables by the Allies and the likes of Hollywood's Billy Wilder:
Buchenwald—A Dumb Dumb Portrayal Of Evil By DenierBud
https://codoh.com/library/document/1529/?lang=en

and also see:
Discovered! Iconic photo in Buchenwald is dishonest photo...
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7489

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Re: Buchenwald Post and Historical Contradictions

Postby forasanerworld » 3 months 2 days ago (Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:21 pm)

It's a pity that the US Army hadn't studied American history better otherwise they would have know what typhus ridden prisoner victims would have looked like.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andersonville_National_Historic_Site


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