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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Hektor » 4 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:19 am)

Stephen Cohen wrote:
Hektor wrote:....

I sent the following email to Juila Reinstein, but she refused to answer.

Gee, I wonder why.

Hello Julia,

I know this is dated, but I just recently read an article of yours titled:

A Principle Who Said "Not Everyone Believes The Holocaust Happened" Has Lost His Job

I have a simple question for you:

What would you say to someone who said:

"Not everyone believes the holocaust happened - as alleged in orthodox holocaust education classes"

?

Thanks in advance for your reply

Of course she doesn't answer. They are told not to debate with dissenters. What argument would you make.

The principal probably only had limited knowledge, perhaps from parents who objected to the Holocaust indoctrination of their kids in school.
When his job came under fire he caved in.

Government took the opportunity to implement more Holocaust indoctrination:
https://www.wptv.com/news/region-s-palm ... t-training

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Stephen Cohen » 4 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:20 pm)

Lamprecht wrote:He probably got the idea from the lawsuits against Andrew Anglin by jews who claims they were harrassed by "neo nazi troll armies" or something, receiving death threats because of him. Anglin didn't even show up to court so it ruled in their favor.

Quite different. Nobody is suggesting these people get harassed or have threats to their life.


Maybe, maybe not.

We'll know if and when he decides to respond to my questions.

I don't know about you, but I'm not holding my breath that he will.

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Stephen Cohen » 4 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:21 pm)

Hektor wrote:
Stephen Cohen wrote:
Hektor wrote:....

I sent the following email to Juila Reinstein, but she refused to answer.

Gee, I wonder why.


Of course she doesn't answer. They are told not to debate with dissenters. What argument would you make.

The principal probably only had limited knowledge, perhaps from parents who objected to the Holocaust indoctrination of their kids in school.
When his job came under fire he caved in.

Government took the opportunity to implement more Holocaust indoctrination:
https://www.wptv.com/news/region-s-palm ... t-training


Who says I was going to argue with her?

I asked her a question because I wanted to know what her answer to it was.

I may even ask her more questions, whether she answers the first one or not.

Maybe I can "incur a lawsuit"?

"Or worse"!

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby christianbethel » 4 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:32 pm)

Stephen Cohen wrote:This is the most bazaar statement that I've read in a while.

First off, who is "them"?

And how exactly might this question:

What would you say to someone who said: "Not everyone believes the holocaust happened - as alleged in orthodox holocaust education classes"?

to a journalist incur a lawsuit against me? Against CODOH?

What do you mean by "or worse"?

"They" are the school district in question, as well as the powers that be.

That question will invariably and ironically be used against you amid accusations of anti-semitism (it being ironic because, going by your username, you are a Jew, which makes me quite suspicious). This Reinstein woman will track you down as a member of CODOH and file a lawsuit for slander or the like. You never know. She could also use her Jewish connections to terminate the site and forum.

Oh, and since I saw you mocking me earlier I'm going to be rude and correct your idiotic mistake: it's bizarre, not bazaar.

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Stephen Cohen » 4 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:02 pm)

christianbethel wrote:
Stephen Cohen wrote:This is the most bazaar statement that I've read in a while.

First off, who is "them"?

And how exactly might this question:

What would you say to someone who said: "Not everyone believes the holocaust happened - as alleged in orthodox holocaust education classes"?

to a journalist incur a lawsuit against me? Against CODOH?

What do you mean by "or worse"?


"They" are the school district in question, as well as the powers that be.

That question will invariably and ironically be used against you amid accusations of anti-semitism (it being ironic because, going by your username, you are a Jew, which makes me quite suspicious). This Reinstein woman will track you down as a member of CODOH and file a lawsuit for slander or the like. You never know. She could also use her Jewish connections to terminate the site and forum.

Oh, and since I saw you mocking me earlier I'm going to be rude and correct your idiotic mistake: it's bizarre, not bazaar.


Wow, an even more bazaar post than your previous one.

"First off, who is "them"?"

christianbethel:

"They" are the school district in question, as well as the powers that be.


Please explain what standing "the school district in question" would have to bring a lawsuit against me.

Please explain what standing "the school district in question" would have to bring a lawsuit against CODOH.

And who exactly are "the powers that be?"

And you didn't answer this question:

And how exactly might this question:

What would you say to someone who said: "Not everyone believes the holocaust happened - as alleged in orthodox holocaust education classes"?

to a journalist incur a lawsuit against me? Against CODOH?


christianbethel:

This Reinstein woman will track you down as a member of CODOH and file a lawsuit for slander or the like.


Please explain what standing "This Reinstein woman" would have to bring a lawsuit against me.

Please explain what standing "This Reinstein woman" would have to bring a lawsuit against CODOH.

And what do you mean by "or the like"? Please be more specific.


christianbethel:

She could also use her Jewish connections to terminate the site and forum.


Please explain exactly how that would work.

And if it could be done, then why hasn't it been done yet?


christianbethel:

This Reinstein woman will track you down as a member of CODOH and file a lawsuit for slander or the like. You never know.


Can you name one person who has ever been "tracked down" and sued for slander for posting something on the CODOH forum?


christianbethel:

You never know.


How Bazaar.

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby christianbethel » 4 months 3 weeks ago (Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:40 pm)

Wow, an even more bazaar post than your previous one.
There you go again.

Please explain what standing "the school district in question" would have to bring a lawsuit against me. Please explain what standing "the school district in question" would have to bring a lawsuit against CODOH.
Hate speech and libel

And who exactly are "the powers that be?"
The Jews. Who else?

And you didn't answer this question.
Yes, I did.

Please explain what standing "This Reinstein woman" would have to bring a lawsuit against me.
Please explain what standing "This Reinstein woman" would have to bring a lawsuit against CODOH.
I did that already.

And what do you mean by "or the like"? Please be more specific.
Use your imagination.

And if it could be done, then why hasn't it been done yet?
Maybe they're just biding their time.

Can you name one person who has ever been "tracked down" and sued for slander for posting something on the CODOH forum?
Nope. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened, though.
How Bazaar.
Why do you keep saying "bazaar"?

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Lamprecht » 4 months 3 weeks ago (Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:21 pm)

Christian:
Hate speech and libel


SCOTUS has ruled that there is no such thing as "Hate speech" under US law. Anything which you could call "Hate speech" is actually 1st amendment constitutionally protected.

Libel is when a person deliberately publishes a false statement about someone else. I do not see that happening anywhere here.
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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Stephen Cohen » 4 months 3 weeks ago (Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:50 pm)

Wow, an even more bazaar post from christianbethel than his last one.

Please explain what standing "the school district in question" would have to bring a lawsuit against me. Please explain what standing "the school district in question" would have to bring a lawsuit against CODOH.

christianbethel

Hate speech and libel


I didn't ask you what you thought they would sue me for, I asked you what standing they would have to bring a lawsuit against me.

I suggest you read this:

http://www.adfmedia.org/files/WhatIsStanding.pdf

Now christianbethel,

#1: Please explain what standing "the school district in question" would have to bring a lawsuit against me for hate speech for emailing Julia Reinstein this simple question:

[Julia] I have a simple question for you:

What would you say to someone who said:

"Not everyone believes the holocaust happened - as alleged in orthodox holocaust education classes"?

Thanks in advance for your reply


#2: Please explain what standing "the school district in question" would have to bring a lawsuit against me for for libel for emailing Julia Reinstein the above quoted simple question.

#3: Please explain what standing "the school district in question" would have to bring a lawsuit against CODOH for hate speech for my emailing Julia Reinstein the above quoted simple question.

#4: Please explain what standing "the school district in question" would have to bring a lawsuit against CODOH for for libel for my emailing Julia Reinstein the above quoted simple question.

#5: Please explain what standing "This Reinstein woman" would have to bring a lawsuit against me for hate speech for emailing Julia Reinstein the above quoted simple question.

#6: Please explain what standing "This Reinstein woman" would have to bring a lawsuit against me for for libel for emailing Julia Reinstein the above quoted simple question.

#7: Please explain what standing "This Reinstein woman" would have to bring a lawsuit against CODOH for hate speech for my emailing Julia Reinstein the above quoted simple question.

#8: Please explain what standing "This Reinstein woman" would have to bring a lawsuit against CODOH for for libel for my emailing Julia Reinstein the above quoted simple question.


christianbethel

Why do you keep saying "bazaar"?


Why do you keep making bazaar posts?

BTW christianbethel, the more you lie and obfuscate, the worse you make yourself look.

And you should know, your not looking very good at the moment.

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Lamprecht » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:41 pm)

I guess he has been officially fired now

https://www.cbs17.com/news/principal-fi ... st-denial/
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WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) — A high school principal in Florida who told a student’s mother “not everyone believes the Holocaust happened” has been fired.

The Palm Beach County school board voted 5-2 to fire William Latson on ground of “ethical misconduct” and “failure to carry out job responsibilities.” Latson was principal of Spanish River High School in Boca Raton.

The Palm Beach Post reports the official justification for Latson’s termination was failure to return messages from school district officials in the days after his comments made international news.

Latson’s attorney has vowed to appeal the decision in state administrative court.

Several Spanish River teachers spoke on behalf of Latson Wednesday, describing him as a kind and tolerant administrator whose words were twisted in a national media frenzy.

Latson has been with the district for 26 years.

Well, it is an undeniable, irrefutable fact: Not everyone believes the Holocaust happened

We can only hope Latson spreads this message of truth, what does he have to lose now?
"There is a principal which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principal is contempt prior to investigation."
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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Stephen Cohen » 3 months 2 weeks ago (Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:48 pm)

Lamprecht:

I guess he has been officially fired now


So all that groveling and boot licking did him no good what-so-ever.


Lamprecht:

Well, it is an undeniable, irrefutable fact: Not everyone believes the Holocaust happened


As alleged that is. (It would have been so easy for him to make that distinction,)

Had he just stood his ground and explained his position better (which would not have been hard to do at all) the media wouldn't have been able to make him look so bad.

Lamprecht:

We can only hope Latson spreads this message of truth, what does he have to lose now?


Well, he lost the moral high ground the moment he started groveling and licking the jews boots.

Latson, through his attorney, said he "believes the Holocaust is factual," per CNN.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 114723002/

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Lamprecht » 3 months 2 weeks ago (Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:20 pm)

Stephen Cohen wrote:Lamprecht:
We can only hope Latson spreads this message of truth, what does he have to lose now?


Well, he lost the moral high ground the moment he started groveling and licking the jews boots.

Latson, through his attorney, said he "believes the Holocaust is factual," per CNN.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 114723002/

Actually this is better. He can come out in a few months and state "Ever since I obtained so much free time after retiring from this teaching position, I reviewed the evidence for the 'Holocaust' and found out that it is seriously lacking." :lol:
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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Hannover » 3 months 2 weeks ago (Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:51 pm)

Latson, through his attorney, said he "believes the Holocaust is factual," per CNN.

If the "holocaust" narrative was factual there would be no need to persecute and imprison those who question & research the preposterous claims.

Only lies require censorship.

"Through his attorney" sounds like suspicious.

Why don't we see Latson saying in person what he really thinks?

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Fact: the alleged immense human remains of many millions in allegedly known locations, do not exist.

Game, set, match.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Lamprecht » 2 weeks 4 days ago (Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:00 pm)

New article claims Latson said he is simply being tolerant of parents who do not believe the "Holocaust". However, the author of this laughable article says these people just hate Jews. Then why do some Jews deny the "Holocaust"?
How is it impossible for someone to simply not accept that Nazis gassed Jews, but also not hate Jews? I don't understand how those two things can't be possible. They're bringing good news: 6 million didn't die. Jews should be happy about it!
Former principal William Latson explains his “tolerance” for Holocaust deniers

I guess former Spanish River High School Principal William Latson imagined that if he fully explained why he refused to call the Holocaust a historical fact it would make things better for him.

Not even close.

This week, Latson gave his first full explanation of why he told a parent at his Boca Raton high school two years ago that he “can’t say the Holocaust is a factual, historical event” even though he believed it was.

“I am tolerant of those who did not believe the Holocaust happened at all,” he explained on Monday during an administrative hearing . “I express it through not being confrontational with them.”

Latson said there were parent volunteers at his school who didn’t believe the Holocaust happened, and that was their “personal ideology” that required his own political neutrality and tolerance.

That’s nonsense. There’s nothing vague, subjective or debatable about the existence of Nazi death camps during the World War II.

And the people who question that historical fact don’t have a respect-worthy “personal ideology” -- they just hate Jews.

Or to put it another way, 100 percent of the people who dispute the atrocities committed at Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, Buchenwald, and the other concentration camps, are going out of their way to allow bigotry to dictate their willful ignorance.

And there’s nothing in the job description of a Palm Beach County school principal that requires the nurturing of history-denying anti-Semites.

In fact, the opposite is true.

The Florida Legislature passed a law in 1994 to require Holocaust education in the state’s public schools, a move to counter the quest of Holocaust deniers to remove the mention of death camps in history books.

Latson’s initial Holocaust comment came in response to a Jewish parent who had asked why attendance at Holocaust assemblies wasn’t mandatory at Spanish River High.

“Not everyone believes the Holocaust happened and you have your thoughts, but we are a public school and not all of our parents have the same beliefs so they will react differently,” Latson answered. “I can’t say the Holocaust is a factual, historical event because I am not in a position to do so as a school district employee.”

The fallout from that exchange, and how Latson reacted to the ensuing investigation, eventually led to the end of his 26-year tenure with the district.

Now, he’s contesting the terms of his dismissal, and in the process explaining himself more fully.

His explanation is a little fishy, though.

He said that some unnamed parent volunteers questioned the existence of the Holocaust at his school, and he didn’t want them to feel unwelcome.

“I’m not going to have any parent on my campus feel like they’re being attacked,” Latson explained on Monday.

How does this happen?

I’ve been a parent volunteer at Palm Beach County public schools. The Holocaust just doesn’t come up.

It’s not like while you’re volunteering to work the bus loop you find it’s both natural and irresistible to engage in a debate about the liberation of Dachau.

Or while agreeing to man the Project Graduation snack wagon you make sure the school principal knows and respects the latest rantings you’ve read on your favorite white supremacist website.

And this is supposed to be happening at Spanish River High School, which serves one of the most predominantly Jewish communities in Palm Beach County?

I don’t buy it.

I guess you could say that I question the historical certainty of a group of Holocaust-denying parents at the Boca Raton high school driving the school principal’s thinking on this.
Cerabino: Former Spanish River High principal in denial about Holocaust excuse
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/2020 ... ust-excuse or http://archive.is/RFMa9
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Re: African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust

Postby Lamprecht » 2 weeks 2 days ago (Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:24 pm)

Apparently there was a cover up attempt. The Palm beach County school officials tried to find some obscure reason to fire Dr. Latson that had nothing to do with him claiming some people don't believe in the "Holocaust" - investigations into whether he filled otu the correct vacation forms or whatever. They wanted to get him fired but he would not be prevented from getting a job at another public school.

A "Robert Pinkos" (Jewish or Polish surname) complained because he was told to limit the investigation, but Ponkos wanted the entire thing to focus on Latson's supposed "Holocaust denial" (actually, he merely acknowledged its existence) and insisted that Latson be fired and prevented from ever working in any school again. Officially, Latson was fired for"being unreachable" after his comments were made public a large national response followed.

The district also knew about the emails for over a year before doing anything. Latson is contesting the dismissal.

Whistleblower alleges cover-up over how principal was fired
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/scho ... story.html or http://archive.is/bWu0q
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