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Re: British Jew to Release Documentary: "Holocaust Denial: A History With David Baddiel"

Postby Pia Kahn » 10 months 3 weeks ago (Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:56 pm)

The gist of the whole documentary is this:

Mr. Baddiel refuses to debate the holocaust and look at the evidence. He prefers to "feel the truth" based on testimony, which doesn't even prove a holocaust. All the woman says is: I never saw my mother again and someone told here that her mother was killed. Then she remembers starvation and people dying in Belsen. Actually, noone denies that people died of starvation and disease in Belsen Mr. Baddiel. Aren't you being very dishonest by insinuating that this is indeed disputed by holocaust deniers? What holocaust deniers are claiming is that there was no deliberate policy of starvation. I am really disgusted by what you did at the end of your film. Who is actually lying and deceiving the public here?

Mr. Baddiel is deeply worried about holocaust denial narrative and wants it shut down, because it may harm Jews or Jewish interests

However, he doesn't care that the holocaust narrative may harm goyim and goyim interests. I was repeatedly beat up as a child (7 years old) by my neighbours in Washington DC, because I was German and they told me I was a Nazi. These boys, no older than 10 years, were jewish and were taught hate and violence.

So, what do we do now? The truth is not always nice and comforting, it can actually be dangerous. Does that mean that we have to suppress the truth in favor of lies?

Oh yes, but Mr. Baddiel will now say: But, I am in possession of the truth! Mr. Baddiel, You refuse to debate the facts and claim to be in the irrefutable possession of the truth? How hypocritical is that? No Mr. Baddiel, you are lying to yourself. That is indeed the best I can say about this attitude.

I say no. We must investigate the truth no matter where it leads us. Whoever fears investigation and discussion of the facts, has no confidence in what he claims to believe.

Finally, you end your narrative Mr. Badiel by stating the holocaust is unbelievable but true. Therefore, we need memorials to prove that it did happen. If it is unbelievable, then why must one believe it? If it is unbelievable, then why must one be an evil person if one doesn't believe it?

Sorry lad, we don't need memorials to prove something happened. We need solid evidence and all you need to do is present this evidence to the public.
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Re: British Jew to Release Documentary: "Holocaust Denial: A History With David Baddiel"

Postby NLH » 10 months 3 weeks ago (Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:02 pm)

NLH wrote:It aired last night, the 17th. Here it is, rip it whilst you can: https://www.bitchute.com/video/DVjiHdzkk494/


This Irish guy is far removed from Germar Rudolf, Carlo Mattogno, Dr. Thomas Dalton, Fred A. Leuchter, Dr. Nicholas Kollerstrom, Jürgen Graf, Peter Winter (read his book for free http://peterwinterwriting.blogspot.com/ ... ad-in.html) or David Cole to name but a few. Will he interview them? Nope.

Or discussing seriously any information on these sites:

https://holocausthandbooks.com

https://inconvenienthistory.com

https://codoh.com

https://forum.codoh.com

http://ihr.org

Or mentioning that the 6 million figure has been used in regard to Jews hundreds of times since the 1800's (regarding the 6 million figure, see Don Heddesheimer's The First Holocaust: The Surprising Origin of the Six-Million Figure (https://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=6) and Dr. Thomas Dalton's The Holocaust: An Introduction https://shop.codoh.com/book/428/440).

Forget everything else, if that doesn't strike you as suspicious I dont know what will.

Oh, but he tries to get Lady Michèle Renouf and Mike Enoch on his show (Mike Enoch calls Alice Fraser (Producer of David Baddiel's Holocaust Denial documentary
https://www.bitchute.com/video/2YgQjf08aNv5/)

David Baddiel confronting Holocaust Denial with Survivor Testimonies
https://www.bitchute.com/video/nWlEIlBgTsrK/

David Baddiel stressed after meeting Holocaust Revisionist
https://www.bitchute.com/video/6b3zxOD2JjdL/

David Baddiel fears he'll be murdered by Holocaust Deniers...
https://www.bitchute.com/video/VKC4ZLGtSOpq/
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Re: British Jew to Release Documentary: "Holocaust Denial: A History With David Baddiel"

Postby borjastick » 10 months 3 weeks ago (Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:04 pm)

Pia Kahn wrote:The gist of the whole documentary is this:

Mr. Baddiel refuses to debate the holocaust and look at the evidence. He prefers to "feel the truth" based on testimony, which doesn't even prove a holocaust. All the woman says is: I never saw my mother again and someone told here that her mother was killed. Then she remembers starvation and people dying in Belsen. Actually, noone denies that people died of starvation and disease in Belsen Mr. Baddiel. Aren't you being very dishonest by insinuating that this is indeed disputed by holocaust deniers? What holocaust deniers are claiming is that there was no deliberate policy of starvation. I am really disgusted by what you did at the end of your film. Who is actually lying and deceiving the public here?

Mr. Baddiel is deeply worried about holocaust denial narrative and wants it shut down, because it may harm Jews or Jewish interests

However, he doesn't care that the holocaust narrative may harm goyim and goyim interests. I was repeatedly beat up as a child (7 years old) by my neighbours in Washington DC, because I was German and they told me I was a Nazi. These boys, no older than 10 years, were jewish and were taught hate and violence.

So, what do we do now? The truth is not always nice and comforting, it can actually be dangerous. Does that mean that we have to suppress the truth in favor of lies?

Oh yes, but Mr. Baddiel will now say: But, I am in possession of the truth! Mr. Baddiel, You refuse to debate the facts and claim to be in the irrefutable possession of the truth? How hypocritical is that? No Mr. Baddiel, you are lying to yourself. That is indeed the best I can say about this attitude.

I say no. We must investigate the truth no matter where it leads us. Whoever fears investigation and discussion of the facts, has no confidence in what he claims to believe.

Finally, you end your narrative Mr. Badiel by stating the holocaust is unbelievable but true. Therefore, we need memorials to prove that it did happen. If it is unbelievable, then why must one believe it? If it is unbelievable, then why must one be an evil person if one doesn't believe it?

Sorry lad, we don't need memorials to prove something happened. We need solid evidence and all you need to do is present this evidence to the public.


I agree with your points but to be fair he was never going to debate anyone about holocaust denial. The programme was all about holocaust denial and its history. Yes they chose Mulqueen very carefully so as to make their point that holocaust deniers are loons. Had they interviewed anyone from the list you and others proffered the programme would have been pulled due to them being so embarrassed and out of their depth.

Holocaust historians and promoters like Nick terry never debate for that very reason.
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Re: British Jew to Release Documentary: "Holocaust Denial: A History With David Baddiel"

Postby forasanerworld » 10 months 3 weeks ago (Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:17 pm)

"need memorials" Westminster City Council was supposed to have held a planning decision on a revised proposal for a UKHMM Not JUST anywhere, but on the UNESCO listed site of Victoria Tower Gardens right outside the Palaces of Westminster, Theressa May graciously "offered" the land which of course she had no right to do. The first proposal was pulled, and the WCC hearing on the revised as been "called in" by No 10 i.e. the decision will now be made by government, the whole thing's a stitch up actually; one of the original letters of support was from what looks like a

https://www.savevictoriatowergardens.co.uk/

I think more proactive action than merely signing a petition, refusal embarrasses no one. I'm trying to find the time to make an official complaint to the BBC and send it as an open letter to the press, maybe even No.10 and more is likely to be the merrier

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Re: British Jew to Release Documentary: "Holocaust Denial: A History With David Baddiel"

Postby phdnm » 10 months 3 weeks ago (Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:51 pm)



David Baddiel deliberately misleads his viewers by portraying clothing fumigation buildings as homicidal gas chambers. The clothing fumigation facilities were used to prevent Jews from dying, not to kill Jews.

Source:

BBC
Confronting Holocaust Denial with David Baddiel
17 Feb 2020
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... id-baddiel

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Re: British Jew to Release Documentary: "Holocaust Denial: A History With David Baddiel"

Postby HMSendeavour » 10 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:01 am)

phdnm wrote:

David Baddiel deliberately misleads his viewers by portraying clothing fumigation buildings as homicidal gas chambers. The clothing fumigation facilities were used to prevent Jews from dying, not to kill Jews.

Source:

BBC
Confronting Holocaust Denial with David Baddiel
17 Feb 2020
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... id-baddiel


Round and round it goes! It's the exact same lies every time.

And they show the Dachau deinfestation Gas Chambers of all things! Hilarious. Anybody Orthodox or not who knows anything about Dachau would know that it isn't even claimed there were any homicidal gassings that took place there.

And look at the bloody skull and crossbones on the door. I guess the Jews being led in just ignored it :roll:

Interestingly, on August 19, 1961, a letter to the editors by German mainstream historian Martin Broszat was published in Germany’s biggest weekly newspaper Die Zeit stating, among other things:

“Jews or other inmates were gassed neither in Dachau nor in Bergen-Belsen nor in Buchenwald. The gas chamber at Dachau was never fully completed and taken into ‘operation.’”


On January 24, 1993, the famous Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal wrote in a letter to the editors of the U.S. military magazine Stars and Stripes in the same vein:

“A gas chamber was in the process of being built at Dachau, but it was never completed.”


Thus, between the 1960s and late 1990s, the Dachau Museum had a sign displayed inside the Dachau gas chamber stating:

“Gas Chamber, disguised as a shower room never used as a gas chamber."


Currently, the US Holocaust Museum itself admits, quote:[17]

“There is no credible evidence that the gas chamber in Barrack X was used to murder human beings.”


Barrack X was the official name for the crematorium building where that sinister room was located.

One of the leading books by mainstream historians on the gas chamber question, the 1993 collective tome Nazi Mass Murder, states on page 202:[18]

“It has not yet been conclusively proved that killings by poison gas took place at the Dachau concentration camp.”


Source: https://codoh.com/library/document/4056
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Re: British Jew to Release Documentary: "Holocaust Denial: A History With David Baddiel"

Postby phdnm » 10 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:10 am)



Holohoax Tales with David Baddiel - Jew hating Nazis fertilized their crops with Jews

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BBC
Confronting Holocaust Denial with David Baddiel
17 Feb 2020
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... id-baddiel

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Re: British Jew to Release Documentary: "Holocaust Denial: A History With David Baddiel"

Postby HMSendeavour » 10 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:22 pm)

phdnm wrote:

Holohoax Tales with David Baddiel - Jew hating Nazis fertilized their crops with Jews

Source:

BBC
Confronting Holocaust Denial with David Baddiel
17 Feb 2020
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... id-baddiel


Ah yes! The classic "Bone-Grinding" machines. They seem to have a very detailed account on how many supposed victims came into contact with the grinders of death! They also only seem to have a couple of photographs of the same machine. Are we supposed to believe there was only ONE bone-grinding machine? Or is there a document for mass ordering in bulk the Bone-Grinders? Perhaps documentation to establish how they were all transported? Why do none exist for us to see today? Of course, it's a nonsense claim. Lack of evidence doesn't prove in the affirmative. It's a convenient unfalsifiable claim. Well. At least they think so.

Mattogno addresses the "Bone Grinders" on pages 481-484 of his book on the Einsatzgruppen (https://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1&page_id=39). He cites primarily a study conducted by Klaus Schwensen which can be viewed here: https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/5/3/3220 Archive: https://archive.fo/CpzPV

The most notable aspect of this claim is it has Soviet origins. If this were the Nazis and some orthodox historian had a claim made by the Nazis as they usually do, all they have to do is wave their hand and say "Claim made by Nazis, it's untrustworthy propaganda" and they don't bat an eye. So much for historical scholarship. But unlike those frauds, Revisionists conduct research into every claim, so our pool of reference is much larger, and thankfully, Revisionists have the sense not just to accept claims made by the Soviets without the inkling for critical reflection unlike the mainstream who accept everything they say at face value.

I'm sure we're all acquainted to some extent or another with Katyn. So it doesn't bare mentioning in detail, but the point is that anything the Soviets say, or claims they make about "German Atrocities" can be disregarded. The National Socialists get the backhand treatment for such petty instances as the "Gleiwitz Incident" a constant point of reference for the mainstream in pointing out the "untrustworthy" nature of the Nazis. In reality, even if the Gleiwitz incident were true it doesn't even come close to comparing with an incident like Katyn. I mean, so much for alleged Nazi-Soviet relations, the mainstream skip over it and pretend that Barbarossa is the first incident which also displays Nazi duplicitousness. . . Really? I'm noticing a pattern here.

Mainstream historians are untrustworthy. They display their duplicitous nature time and time again. These frauds need to be brought to heel; and thankfully they have been. The only thing holding the barrier back from us is their overt social manipulation and coercion tactics. The fact they have tons of state power and money certainly doesn't hurt. But even taking this into account we're still supposed to believe they could ever be objective, what a funny joke! :lol:
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Re: British Jew to Release Documentary: "Holocaust Denial: A History With David Baddiel"

Postby Lamprecht » 10 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:38 pm)

phdnm wrote:

Holohoax Tales with David Baddiel - Jew hating Nazis fertilized their crops with Jews

Source:

BBC
Confronting Holocaust Denial with David Baddiel
17 Feb 2020
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... id-baddiel

And that's how a real conspiracy theory goes. Millions of people gassed, buried, dug up, burned in giant pyres, and then grounded up into dust and scattered all over the world so all of the physical evidence is impossible to locate. And don't forget, they destroyed all of the documents (except a handful of seemingly exonerating ones with "code words") so the only evidence we have is this eyewitness testimony from the aggrieved victims or "confessions" from people imprisoned. :lol: :roll:

Wikipedia:
Conspiracy theories resist falsification and are reinforced by circular reasoning: both evidence against the conspiracy and an absence of evidence for it are re-interpreted as evidence of its truth,[5][6] whereby the conspiracy becomes a matter of faith rather than something that can be proved or disproved.[7][8]
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Re: British Jew to Release Documentary: "Holocaust Denial: A History With David Baddiel"

Postby Hannover » 10 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:45 pm)

Lamprecht on the contradictory claims:
Millions of people gassed, buried, dug up, burned in giant pyres, and then grounded up into dust and scattered all over the world so all of the physical evidence is impossible to locate.

Yet they now say that those human remains are not "impossible to locate". In fact they say that the remains of the alleged many million exist in known locations, yet those remains do not exist as has been proven repeatedly.

examples:

from: 'Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, 4 vols., Israel Gutman (ed.), Macmillan, New York 1990, vol. 4, p. 1481-87
“The mass graves were opened and the corpses were taken out, to be consumed by the flames of huge pyres (the ‘roasts’). The bones were crushed and, together with the ashes, were reburied in the same graves.”

and from Yitzhak Arad’s book: BELZEC, SOBIBOR, TREBLINKA - (chapter 23) - The Erasure of the Crimes:
“The camp command was confronted with the problem of disposing of the large piles of ash and bits of bone that remained… Ultimately it was decided to dump the ash and bits of bone into the ditches that had previously held the bodies and to cover them with a thick layer of sand and dirt… [Eyewitness] Abraham Goldfarb relates: …’we secretly placed in the walls of the graves whole skeletons and we wrote on scraps of paper what the Germans were doing at Treblinka. We put the scraps of paper into bottles, which we placed next to the skeletons. Our intention was that if one day someone looked for traces, they could indeed be found.’”
No such remains exist. Simple as that.
And then the fact that the alleged 'gas chambers', which are claimed to have been the murder weapons for 4,000,000 Jews and millions of so called 'others', were scientifically impossible.

They've painted themselves into a corner with no way out of the massive contradictions that are everywhere within the false 'holocaust' narrative.

Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the laughable 'holocaust' storyline is the message.

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Re: British Jew to Release Documentary: "Holocaust Denial: A History With David Baddiel"

Postby Lamprecht » 10 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:34 pm)

Hannover wrote:Yet they now say that those human remains are not "impossible to locate". In fact they say that the remains of the alleged many million exist in known locations, yet those remains do not exist as has been proven repeatedly.

They have a large supply of contradictory testimony so that they can cherry pick a few that somewhat agree to spin their narrative. This is shown in the following threads:

Gas Vans at Auschwitz
viewtopic.php?t=13099

The Most Ridiculous Testimony
viewtopic.php?t=7033

'The Matrix of Converging Evidence' / the true convergence supports the Revisionist side
viewtopic.php?t=12262

Gas chambers? Oh we have some for that. Just ignore the "eyewitnesses" who claim steam chambers and electrocution chambers.

Oh, Zyklon-B doesn't outgas in 5 minutes? Just ignore the "eyewitnesses" who claim fast gassing times.

No pits can be found? Oh, just ignore the "eyewitnesses" that claim they were dumped into pits and use the ones that claim the burnt remains were turned into dust.
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Re: British Jew to Release Documentary: "Holocaust Denial: A History With David Baddiel"

Postby HMSendeavour » 10 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:42 am)

Hannover wrote:and from Yitzhak Arad’s book: BELZEC, SOBIBOR, TREBLINKA - (chapter 23) - The Erasure of the Crimes:
[Eyewitness] Abraham Goldfarb relates: …’we secretly placed in the walls of the graves whole skeletons and we wrote on scraps of paper what the Germans were doing at Treblinka. We put the scraps of paper into bottles, which we placed next to the skeletons. Our intention was that if one day someone looked for traces, they could indeed be found.’”


How bold! You'd have to be seriously delusional to make such a specific claim when you know it's false and the potential for being found out exists. If this were true there'd be no excuse for not finding any remains.
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Re: British Jew to Release Documentary: "Holocaust Denial: A History With David Baddiel"

Postby Atigun » 10 months 2 weeks ago (Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:44 pm)

Baddiel makes it plain that his documentary is a propaganda release within the first four (4) minutes of the opening. Baddiel is shown at the USHMM quoting the inscription from Eisenhower where Eisenhower is touting the deliberate mass murder of Jews by the Germans by means of gas chambers. Just as the clothes being aired out after disinfecting gassing at Dachau are claimed to be proof of homicidal gas chambers. Yet these blatant lies are advertised and shown with a straight face by the MSM. Do the Jews really think that they can sustain such obvious lies in perpetuity? Apparently they do.

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Re: British Jew to Release Documentary: "Holocaust Denial: A History With David Baddiel"

Postby forasanerworld » 10 months 2 weeks ago (Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:11 am)

Atigun wrote:Baddiel makes it plain that his documentary is a propaganda release within the first four (4) minutes of the opening. Baddiel is shown at the USHMM quoting the inscription from Eisenhower where Eisenhower is touting the deliberate mass murder of Jews by the Germans by means of gas chambers. Just as the clothes being aired out after disinfecting gassing at Dachau are claimed to be proof of homicidal gas chambers. Yet these blatant lies are advertised and shown with a straight face by the MSM. Do the Jews really think that they can sustain such obvious lies in perpetuity? Apparently they do.


Send a complaint to the BBC, may be send it as an "open letter" to some of the Press too so the BEEB can't hide it, we are the converted.

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Re: British Jew to Release Documentary: "Holocaust Denial: A History With David Baddiel"

Postby Pia Kahn » 10 months 2 weeks ago (Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:06 am)

Atigun wrote:Baddiel makes it plain that his documentary is a propaganda release within the first four (4) minutes of the opening. Baddiel is shown at the USHMM quoting the inscription from Eisenhower where Eisenhower is touting the deliberate mass murder of Jews by the Germans by means of gas chambers. Just as the clothes being aired out after disinfecting gassing at Dachau are claimed to be proof of homicidal gas chambers. Yet these blatant lies are advertised and shown with a straight face by the MSM. Do the Jews really think that they can sustain such obvious lies in perpetuity? Apparently they do.


So true. What is troubling to me is that they keep peddling these lies although they are known to be lies. The mainstream historians do not believe that people were gassed in Dachau. The mainstream believes that the vast majority of corpses discovered in western camps were victims of malnutrition and disease, they were not deliberately killed. Thus, Eisenhower was actually lying. Eisenhower was not a witness of a deliberate attempt to exterminate the jews.

So Baddiel doesn't think he has to invent knew lies in order to keep the story afloat. No, he thinks that repeating the same old lies is suffient although any semi cognizant person knows that they are lies.

This reminds me of this passage in mein Kampf:

"Je mehr ich dann so mit ihnen stritt, um so mehr lernte
ich ihre Dialektik kennen. Erst rechneten sie mit der Dummheit ihres Gegners, um dann, wenn sich ein Ausweg nicht
mehr fand, sich selber einfach dumm zu stellen. Nützte alles
nichts, so verstanden sie nicht recht oder sprangen, gestellt,
augenblicklich auf ein anderes Gebiet über, brachten nun
Selbstverständlichkeiten, deren Annahme sie aber sofort
wieder auf wesentlich andere Stoffe bezogen, um nun,
wieder angefaßt, auszuweichen und nichts Genaues zu
wissen. Wo immer man so einen Apostel angriff, umschloß
die Hand qualligen Schleim; das quoll einem geteilt durch
die Finger, um sich im nächsten Moment schon wieder zusammenzuschließen. Schlug man aber einen wirklich so vernichtend, daß er, von der Umgebung beobachtet, nicht mehr
anders als zustimmen konnte, und glaubte man, so wenigstens einen Schritt vorwärtsgekommen zu sein, so war das
Erstaunen am nächsten Tag groß. Der Jude wußte nun
von gestern nicht mehr das geringste, erzählte seinen alten
Unfug wieder weiter, als ob überhaupt nichts vorgefallen
wäre, und tat, empört zur Rede gestellt, erstaunt, konnte
sich an rein gar nichts erinnern, außer an die doch schon
am Vortage bewiesene Richtigkeit seiner Behauptungen.
Ich stand manches Mal starr da.
Man wußte nicht, was man mehr bestaunen sollte, ihre
Zungenfertigkeit oder ihre Kunst der Lüge.
Ich begann sie allmählich zu hassen. "

https://deutschermensch.files.wordpress ... 3-818s.pdf

Pages 66 to 67

Hitler recounts discussions with Jews, in which he had exposed jews of lying to him. The next time he met them, they would just repeat their lies as if they had never discussed the topic before. The passage ends with the sentence.

"...Sometimes I was just petrified. I didn't know what was more admirable, their verbosity or their art of lying. I gradually began to hate them."

This is really striking to me. Mr. Baddiel appears to be behaving in exactly the same manner, in which the jews in vienna behaved who turned Hitler into an antisemite.
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