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The current Stutthof Trial and alleged "gas chambers"

Postby thedisbeliever » 10 months 1 day ago (Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:14 am)

There is a lot of media coverage of the trial against former SS guard Bruno Dey who was 17 when he was a guard at Stutthof. Over the last weeks I've read numerous articles. In one of them he more or less says that the "gas chamber" there was a homicidal gas chamber.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... as-chamber

A 93-year-old former guard at the Nazi Stutthof concentration camp has testified at his trial that he once saw people being led into the gas chamber, followed by screaming and banging sounds behind the locked door.


I'm obviously not convinced he is telling the truth here, but he may be. As far as I know, the Stutthof "gas chamber" is one of few that could actually in theory have been used for homicidal gassing. It was a delousing unit after all, so in theory I see no reason why it shouldn't be possible to lock some people in there and gas them. I do not believe it (yet?), but it could, as far as I can tell, be true. Not on a hoaxter-scale, obviously, but for the sake of the argument, let's say it was used just a few times.

Here's a photo of the original building. I don't know when it was taken, but probably a while ago as it's black/white and long before it was converted to a Holocaust theme park.

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Same building, same angle, after conversion:

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First thing to notice is that they have totally remodelled it, as usual. The entire entrance is changed and rebuilt, and they have added a steel door.

Here's another photo, probably taken around the same time as the first one (perhaps same shoot?) Who is the man, and what does the text say? Does anyone know the origin of these? The first one can be found on the official stutthof site, but no credit/info that I could find.

Again, it's not hard to see that they totally rebuilt it. Why did they change the entire entrance instead of just adding a door? Are there any other old photos?

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Finally another revealing photo:

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Here we see the inside, with a wreath covering the draining hole (?) in the floor, while showing the obviously fake "hole in the roof". There was absolutely no need for that here, as this was indeed a functioning "gas chamber" It has a heating unit (as can be seen) outside, and no need for that added hole RIGHT above the hole in the floor. As far as I understand, it would function by blowing in zyklon B through that "hole" in the "bench" which is now without cover, it was probably covered with a grid of some kind? It *could* be that the hole in the roof is actually some kind of ventilation, as I'm not too familiar with how this delousing chamber actually functioned, but it would be a strange place to have ventilation (hard to access) so until further I assume it is another hole added for propaganda-purposes to fit with the narrative.

What do you guys think of this story / gas chamber? Of course a number of Jews claim that they are eye-witnesses to gassings, but... jewish eye-witnesses, well. There are also some other witnesses who have claimed different things, but there is no way to disprove all of them, even though some have already been shown to be frauds.

https://www.jta.org/2020/01/08/global/f ... -holocaust

“Watch out everyone, I’m going to forgive him,” Loth, 76, said as he approached Dey, who admits to having been a guard at the Stutthof camp near Gdansk, which today is in Poland.

But Loth may have exaggerated his story — he was born into a Christian family and was likely never in a camp.


Sigh....

Are there people/inmates who have said that they never witnessed anything? This "gas chamber" was in the middle of the camp, and for everyone to see.

Are there more information or old photos?

I know that the exterminationist-story is full of holes and that it at "best" would be very limited real use of this to kill people. I do not believe it, but it is possible (?) that it has some truth to it, so I wonder if anyone have more info of this, as this trial is getting a lot of coverage?

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Re: The current Stutthof Trial and alleged "gas chambers"

Postby Lamprecht » 10 months 13 hours ago (Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:03 pm)

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Bruno Dey, ex-guard at Stutthof goes on trial at age 93
viewtopic.php?t=12821

[Book] Concentration Camp Stutthof—Its History & Function in National Socialist Jewish Policy
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The alleged homicidal gas chamber of Stutthof:

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- Just imagine Jews marching to their death here. It's not even disguised as any sort of shower room. Just a single brick building in some random part of the camp. Being marched over there and forced into the room, they would have began panicking and tried to fight back/escape.

- At the end of the war as Soviet troops were advancing, the crematorium at Stutthof was destroyed. Then why was the alleged homicidal gas chamber, which would have been far more incriminating, left intact? See: viewtopic.php?t=12617

- Notice the blue staining on the outside walls. I thought Prussian blue only stains a few micrometers thick? :lol:

- Notice how allegedly half a million people were gassed in one room at Auschwitz, but there is no blue staining. The official story claims that 65,000 people died at Stutthof of all causes, yet the gas chamber is covered in blue stains.

- Supposedly, some gassings took place in a railway car as well. There is no evidence for this, but it actually would have made more sense that what is laughably alleged at other places. FPB discusses this here: http://archive.is/0U5Nw

- It is also claimed that injections of petrol to the heart were used at Stutthof to kill prisoners. Who makes this stuff up? :roll:

- The only "evidence" for homicidal gas chambers at Stutthof are a handful of "eyewitness testimonies" - sometimes just the mere repetition of hearsay. These same testimonies typically claim impossibly high cremation rates and other absurdities, proving that these prisoners were just lying as revenge against their captors.

- "Homicidal Gas chamber" rumors proliferated throughout the concentration camp system, especially Auschwitz. The plainly visible delousing chamber - which was quite close to the crematoria - would have been the perfect target to fit in with these rumors.

- Thousands of death records for Stutthof survived, none of these documents (or any for that matter) suggest any gassings of prisoners. In just one month - February 1945 - over 4,000 inmates died per day, mainly due to typhus. This is why the delousing chamber existed, to kill typhus-spreading body louse on clothing and bedding.

There isn't much to it. This 93 year old guy - who was just a teenager at the time and certainly doesn't remember much at all - has been put on trial in a country where "Holocaust denial" is a crime. There's no evidence that even one prisoner was ever killed in that room, all we have is a few liewitness testimonies. I'm also not surprised if a few former prisoners come out to the trial to say that they also saw the gas chambers, juts to get their 15 minutes of fame.
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Re: The current Stutthof Trial and alleged "gas chambers"

Postby Hektor » 10 months 2 hours ago (Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:08 am)

But Loth may have exaggerated his story — he was born into a Christian family and was likely never in a camp.


Lying about one's ancestry isn't "exaggerated", it's giving false testimony

German book on Stutthof:
https://archive.org/details/Konzentrati ... f/mode/2up
Earlier commentary on Stutthof gas chamber:
https://archive.org/details/historische ... 5/mode/2up
https://archive.org/details/historische ... 4/mode/2up

Commentary on the trial against Bruno Dey (in German):
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https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZVJ0204ObInN/
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https://www.bitchute.com/video/AjEB3jDTdNV7/

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Re: The current Stutthof Trial and alleged "gas chambers"

Postby thedisbeliever » 9 months 4 weeks ago (Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:40 pm)

Hektor wrote:
But Loth may have exaggerated his story — he was born into a Christian family and was likely never in a camp.


Lying about one's ancestry isn't "exaggerated", it's giving false testimony

German book on Stutthof:
https://archive.org/details/Konzentrati ... f/mode/2up
Earlier commentary on Stutthof gas chamber:
https://archive.org/details/historische ... 5/mode/2up
https://archive.org/details/historische ... 4/mode/2up

Commentary on the trial against Bruno Dey (in German):
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https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZVJ0204ObInN/
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https://www.bitchute.com/video/AjEB3jDTdNV7/


Thanks for the links!

I was already more than half-done on the book, but most so far was known. As most of holohoax-lore, it's ridiculous to believe/assume that the Germans would use Zyklon B / gas chambers instead of just taking them on a train-ride and shoot them in a ditch, but the old man claims (or so the articles say) that he did see a group of people being led to that house with screams and death (implied) following.

Of course there are a number of reasons why the old, frail man would just lie here. If the questions are asked directly, he would break another law by actually denying or minimizing the "holocaust" in Germany, and spending his last years in some kind of prison (not impossible that this will be the outcome) does not sound very tempting for just being a guard in the SS. The "official narrative" is just as absurd here as in the other camps, but if you take his statement isolated, it would at least be possible in this camp / facility to maybe gas a batch or two of Jews. Extremely unlikely and stupid, definitely, but possible in theory.

Because this "gas chamber" was located right in the middle of the camp, an inmate saying there were no gassings would be a very believeable witness. If many inmates claim the same, all the better. Most "accounts" from inmates I've read include "gas chambers" but almost all are second hand, like "every day 100 Jewish women were sent on a train and we all just knew that they were sent (???) to the gas chambers".
The usual hearsay-theme where people are not necessarily lying, but just repeat "common knowledge" among inmates (even though some of it is absurd today, like saying they were sent away in trains to be gassed when no real historian claims that ever happened as far as I know, and they supposedly had a functional and well-used gas chamber on site).

I'll finish the book and videos :)

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Re: The current Stutthof Trial and alleged "gas chambers"

Postby Lamprecht » 9 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:14 am)

Another liewitness exposed, causing serious issues for this show trial. I wonder if he merely wanted attention, or someone told him to do it?
And Dey claims he was conscripted, and although he claims he saw people going to be gassed, he had nothing to do with it and didn't mistreat any prisoners. I think there's a possibility he will not be charged with any crime here, especially since he payed lip service to the "gas chamber" nonsense. If he does get convinced, I would hope he comes out to say that the gas chambers were complete nonsense.
Trial of German SS guard in chaos after prominent witness withdraws from case

It has emerged Moshe Peter Loth, who publicly forgave the 93-year-old suspect Bruno Dey last year, is not the grandson of a Jewish woman gassed at Stutthof

January 17, 2020 11:42

The trial of Bruno Dey, a 93-year-old former SS guard at the Stutthof concentration camp, took a bizarre turn this week as a co-plaintiff withdrew from the case after inconsistencies were found in the story of his background.

An investigation conducted by the German newsweekly Der Spiegel found that Moshe Peter Loth, 76, had not been imprisoned in Stutthof as an infant, as he had previously claimed, and neither was he the grandson of a Jewish woman who died in the gas chambers there.
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Previously, Mr Loth had also submitted documents to Yad Vashem, claiming that his Jewish grandmother, Anna, had been gassed to death at Stutthof.

But none of the above was true, Der Spiegel found.

He was in fact born Peter Oswald Loth on September 2, 1943 in a normal hospital in Tiegenhof, today Nowy Dwór, Gdanski — known at the time as Danzig.
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Helene was indeed imprisoned briefly at Stutthof, though prison records state her nationality as “R.D.”, meaning Reichsdeutsche, an ethnic German living in the German Reich

Helene was held there for four weeks and released on April 1, 1943, months prior to Loth’s birth.
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Stepping away from the case, he claimed that “all the things I said in the trial are true, to the best of my knowledge”, adding that he had spent decades researching his family history.

He pushed back against what he termed a “media circus of false accusations”.
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In December, the 93-year-old defendant testified that though he had observed people being taken to the gas chambers, he neither shot nor was violent towards any prisoners.

His job, he said, was to watch the perimeter fence to ensure no one escaped.

Bruno Dey reiterated that he had been a conscript.

“In my heart, I was not an SS man”, he told the court. “I do not see myself as guilty”.

The trial continues. A verdict is not expected before the end of February.
https://www.thejc.com/news/world/trial- ... s-1.495554
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Re: The current Stutthof Trial and alleged "gas chambers"

Postby Christian » 9 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:02 am)

Interesting is the mail from the so-called extermination camp taken from german wikipedia.

The first letter is from November 1944 and the prisoner writes that he has landed here after all. The recipient wants to arrange for his belongings and money to be sent here immediately. He also asks for cigarette paper and an old pipe. His wife would like to be informed of his whereabouts. He sends his best regards.

The second letter is dated December 1944: "My dear ones! Although my thoughts are always with you, they are especially with you today on Christmas Eve. I wonder if you will also think of me a little bit? I wish you all a Merry & Healthy Christmas. May peace & unity be with you & may you [... lower half is missing] Have a special heart. Greetings to Ine, Erna and everyone who should ask for me. Can you send me some bread? + smokes as well"

Apparently, with tobacco you can even somehow bear the unbearable.
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Re: The current Stutthof Trial and alleged "gas chambers"

Postby Lamprecht » 9 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:56 am)

Christian wrote:Apparently, with tobacco you can even somehow bear the unbearable.

Well, to be fair, that is exactly how it works with tobacco :lol:

Even more curious though is that you can somehow smoke cigarettes while emptying a gas chamber full of HCN, according to Rudolf Hoess.
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Re: The current Stutthof Trial and alleged "gas chambers"

Postby Zulu » 9 months 3 weeks ago (Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:29 pm)

Lamprecht wrote:Suggested:
Bruno Dey, ex-guard at Stutthof goes on trial at age 93
viewtopic.php?t=12821

[Book] Concentration Camp Stutthof—Its History & Function in National Socialist Jewish Policy
PDF: https://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/04-ccs.pdf
HTML: http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/ccs/



The alleged homicidal gas chamber of Stutthof:

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- Notice the blue staining on the outside walls. I thought Prussian blue only stains a few micrometers thick? :lol:

Actually, if exterminationists insist in qualifying that room as an "homicidal gas chamber" they must admit that all their arguments for explaining the lack of Prussian blue on the walls of Leichenkeller 1 at Krema II at Birkenau are dead. So, they face a big dilemma here...

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Re: The current Stutthof Trial and alleged "gas chambers"

Postby Lamprecht » 9 months 3 weeks ago (Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:04 pm)

Zulu wrote:Actually, if exterminationists insist in qualifying that room as an "homicidal gas chamber" they must admit that all their arguments for explaining the lack of Prussian blue on the walls of Leichenkeller 1 at Krema II at Birkenau are dead. So, they face a big dilemma here...

I guess the excuse is that it was primarily a delousing chamber but they also sometimes gassed human beings in it as well.
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Re: The current Stutthof Trial and alleged "gas chambers"

Postby Zulu » 9 months 3 weeks ago (Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:20 am)

Lamprecht wrote:
Zulu wrote:Actually, if exterminationists insist in qualifying that room as an "homicidal gas chamber" they must admit that all their arguments for explaining the lack of Prussian blue on the walls of Leichenkeller 1 at Krema II at Birkenau are dead. So, they face a big dilemma here...

I guess the excuse is that it was primarily a delousing chamber but they also sometimes gassed human beings in it as well.

OK. Actually, they were wrong to choose the morgues of the Kremas for their alleged "homicidal gas chambers". Had they preferred the former delousing chambers at BW5 they would have been more credible. "Gazkammer" is even mentioned on the drawings and it wasn't a "secret code" for "shower room". Bad luck.

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Re: The current Stutthof Trial and alleged "gas chambers"

Postby stinky » 4 months 2 days ago (Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:49 am)

93 year old Dey convicted, receives a 2 year suspended sentence

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-23/ ... s/12487196

A German court has convicted a former Nazi guard on more than 5,000 counts of accessory to murder at the Stutthof concentration camp, where he served as a guard in the final months of World War II.
Key points:

Bruno Dey served as a guard at the Stutthof concentration camp when he was 17 years old
The judge handed down a two-year suspended sentence
The 2011 conviction of a Sobibor death camp guard set a precedent for Nazi accessory convictions

The 93-year-old former SS private Bruno Dey was convicted of 5,232 counts of accessory to murder, equal to the number of people believed to have been killed at Stutthof during his service there in 1944 and 1945, and one count of accessory to attempted murder. Dey was given a two-year suspended sentence.

"How could you get used to the horror?" presiding judge Anne Meier-Goering asked as she announced the verdict.

Because he was only 17, and later 18, at the time of his alleged crimes, Dey's case was heard in juvenile court. Prosecutors had called for a three-year sentence, while the defence demanded acquittal.

The trial opened in October and in deference to Dey's age, court sessions were limited to two two-hour sessions a week.

In a closing statement to the court earlier this week, the wheelchair-bound German retiree apologised for his role in the Nazis' machinery of destruction, saying "it must never be repeated."

"Today, I want to apologise to all of the people who went through this hellish insanity," Dey said.
17-year-old Dey 'heard screams' from gas chambers from guard tower

Prosecutors argued that as a Stutthof guard from August 1944 to April 1945, Dey — although "no ardent worshipper of Nazi ideology" — aided all the killings that took place there during that period as a "small wheel in the machinery of murder."

Dey gave wide-ranging statements to investigators about his service, saying that he was deemed unfit for combat in the regular Germany army in 1944 so was drafted into an SS guard detachment and sent to the camp near Danzig, now the Polish city of Gdansk.

Initially a collection point for Jews and non-Jewish Poles removed from Danzig, Stutthof from about 1940 was used as a so-called "work education camp" where forced labourers, primarily Polish and Soviet citizens, were sent to serve sentences and often died.

Others incarcerated there included political prisoners, accused criminals, people suspected of homosexual activity and Jehovah's Witnesses.

More than 60,000 people were killed there by being given lethal injections of gasoline or phenol directly to their hearts, shot or starved. Others were forced outside in winter without clothing until they died of exposure, or were put to death in a gas chamber.

Dey told the court that as a trained baker's apprentice, he attempted to get sent to an army kitchen or bakery when he learned he'd been assigned to Stutthof.
An elderly man sits in a wheelchair on the stand. Separated by perspex, the judge sits next to him wearing a mask.
Precautions were taken to keep the case going through the height of the coronavirus pandemic.(DPA: Daniel Bockwoldt/ Pool)

As a guard there, he said he frequently was directed to watch over prisoner labour crews working outside the camp.

Dey acknowledged hearing screams from the camp's gas chambers and watching as corpses were taken to be burned, but he said he never fired his weapon and once allowed a group to smuggle meat from a dead horse they'd discovered back into the camp.

"The images of misery and horror have haunted me my entire life," he testified.
21st-century precedent opens door to further WWII-era convictions

For at least two decades, every trial of a former Nazi has been dubbed "likely Germany's last".

But just last week, another ex-guard at Stutthof was charged at age 95 and more than a dozen further cases are actively being investigated by the special prosecutors' office that investigates Nazi-era crimes.

That's due in part to a precedent established in 2011 with the conviction of former guard at the Sobibor death camp in German-occupied Poland John Demjanjuk as an accessory to murder on allegations.

Before Demjanjuk's case, German courts had required prosecutors to justify charges by presenting evidence of a former guard's participation in a specific killing, a legal standard that was often next to impossible to meet given the circumstances of the crimes committed at Nazi death camps.

However, prosecutors successfully argued during Demjanjuk's trial in Munich that guarding a camp where the only purpose was murder was enough for an accessory conviction.

The Dey case extends the argument to apply to a guard at a concentration camp that did not exist for the sole purpose of extermination, rather than a death camp guard.
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Re: The current Stutthof Trial and alleged "gas chambers"

Postby Archie » 4 months 1 day ago (Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:59 am)

There's nobody left but they still need to collect scalps so they have to keep lowering the bar for prosecution to comical levels. With Oskar Groening at least they could say he was at Auschwitz (never mind that he was just an accountant). Here they have targeted a low-level teenage guard who didn't even serve in one of the "extermination" camps. Under usual circumstances, no court would do something so absurd as prosecute a 93 year old as a juvenile. But when it comes to "The Holocaust" all rationality is suspended. Of all of the war crimes in the 20th century (and there are many) where do the alleged crimes of Bruno Dey rank? Do they stand out sufficiently to warrant prosecution 75 years after the fact? He gets special attention only because he was "involved" with "The Holocaust."

How about we start prosecuting Zionists for all of their crimes?

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Postby Hektor » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:27 pm)

Archie wrote:There's nobody left but they still need to collect scalps so they have to keep lowering the bar for prosecution to comical levels. With Oskar Groening at least they could say he was at Auschwitz (never mind that he was just an accountant). Here they have targeted a low-level teenage guard who didn't even serve in one of the "extermination" camps. Under usual circumstances, no court would do something so absurd as prosecute a 93 year old as a juvenile. But when it comes to "The Holocaust" all rationality is suspended. Of all of the war crimes in the 20th century (and there are many) where do the alleged crimes of Bruno Dey rank? Do they stand out sufficiently to warrant prosecution 75 years after the fact? He gets special attention only because he was "involved" with "The Holocaust."

How about we start prosecuting Zionists for all of their crimes?


No doubt that the more recent court cases against "Nazi Criminals" are beyond ridiculous. I mean the former one still tried to preserve the pretence of legality, even if this already questionable then.

Not going into the details on the cases, those people were already quite senile and the allegation including certain "admissions" were fairly recent. And of course those cases are ALL a form of special pleading. Prosecuting alleged "Nazi War Criminals", while ignoring Allied war Crimes virtually completely. That blatant injustice should be obvious and I think a fair amount of people does indeed notice it, albeit not in a clear way. What they do is to balance their sublime perception of this by increasing the "evilness" of "Nazi atrocities" in order to make Allied crimes look benign. That way they turn Hitler and National Socialism actually in some kind of negative "moral absolute" - and this actually does serve some interested parties in ways to put certain ideologies into policy. A kind of "anything goes today, because those darn Nazis were so evil then".

Members of governments and/or their armed forces including military and police only get prosecuted, when their government/state are completely crushed. Bear in mind that the occupation of Germany in 1945 was total. That their armed forces did do an unconditional surrender. And even while the Doenitz-government was still active, it was clear that the Allies had sort of free reign in Germany. Each major ally in their own zones of occupation of course. The civil administrators of Germany all played along with this. Getting this right was pretty easy. On the one hand Allies could imprison or kill any German at will (and I presume this was done far more often than we know right now - but that's a working hypothesis). So there was a more or less physical intimidation factor at work. The other factor was more psychological. Anyone disagreeing or counteracting the Allied administration or dictates by them could quickly be labelled a Nazi and get a lot of obstruction in his social, political and occupational life this way. Remember there was "Denazification" also going on for a couple of years. This was only relaxed with the Adenauer administration. They realized that they couldn't do without all those "old Nazis", if they wanted to "rebuild" Germany. Seems the people previously higher ranking in the administration were indeed qualified for their positions and were capable of doing a thing or more well and to the satisfaction of goals been set. That's the difference with political appointments nowadays who's only qualifications are personal connections and compliance with the ideologigal framework.

But recall that this all happened with the Allies approval (at that stage the Western Allies. The Soviet Zone followed a different approach, while they also took all the "old Nazis" on board again after a while, something that Western leftists weren't really aware off - They actually advertised with the opposite). I think this also had an ulterior motive with it. All the "Old Nazis" in positions could be made a target of critique for the younger German generation and become a justification for their resentment. At that stage "Anti-Authoritarianism" was the leading theme - don't think that most of the 68-rebels weren't that much versed with the teachings of the Frankfurt-School, except for the leadership and top intellectuals of course. They immersed in it. And most of their own ideology was actually based on it - except perhaps some of the liberal or socialist ideas that stemmed from earlier times.

The Anti-Nazi theme was a justification myth for leftists and with them slowly taking over institutions, this became more and more an obsession for them. Hence the many show trials against "Nazi criminals" in Germany since then. Every trial is accompanied by a media campaign making all sorts of claims and actually creating a hype and cognitive dissonance among the population at least as far as the "educated" portion is concerned. And those are the ones that influence the thinking of the others as journalists, teachers, social workers, active members of churches, political parties, trade unions and the rest of civil society. For all I know that's the thought-termination cliche (Holocaust) in Germany right now that dictates all kinds of other policies on culture, immigration, defence, policing, social relation, etc. So it's not some Zionists pulling the strings there in a pedantic way. All they may actually do is let some information leak to the "right people" in Germany the Holocaust-Nazi-trial ball is rolling again. Otherwise it's the gift that gives on giving.

It helped Israel's otherwise outrageous policies for decades. And that includes American wars in the Middle East. And the left benefited tremendously from this as well until the world has been gifted from BLM. Be advised that I'm suggesting that the "Holocaust" is the only ingredient here. There are of course other factors like general resentment at work as well. The old left was a bit of a problem for corporate elites, due to the leftist critique of Capitalism as exploitative and repressive. That seems to have ceased right now for a large part. And it has been exchanged for even more outlandish allegations about "institutional racism/sexism/homophobia etc." and the new target are "old, heterosexual, white man". But cultural Marxism is a myth, yeah right.

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Re: The current Stutthof Trial and alleged "gas chambers"

Postby Sannhet » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:57 pm)

Archie wrote:He gets special attention only because he was "involved" with "The Holocaust."


These are obviously political "show trials."

It's hard for me for to imagine a person who, if told about a trial like this, doesn't "see through it" immediately, recognize it as a political show trial. But, alas, I think only a minority see it for what it is.

Many are believers, "Finally, they got another Nazi monster!"

Many others scoff at the absurdity of prosecuting some random person in late old-age, but still don't recognize that these are political show trials and serve that function, don't recognize that it wasn't some oversight that this case just happened to somehow slip through for prosecution and now they have to do it.

A perceptive minority will recognize the political function of these trials which serve to reinforce the system and prop up its legitimacy. Holocaust as Founding Myth.


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