Disclaimer: I am no lawyer. But I have good friend who is and I can ask him about it if you want.
JLAD Prove Me Wrong wrote:Later that afternoon, I received a phone call from the police in New York (I live in Ohio) alleging harassment. I explained in a 4 minute conversation how I am not harassing them, and that I do not plan to further contact these lunatics.
If they do bring this to court, and there is a judge silly enough to make this a court case, then I will contact revisionist historians such as Germar Rudolf and Fred Leuchter, and with their assistence, I will further demolish the holocaust in court. It will like the Zündel trial - and I plan to win it!
This is just silly. So it is between states, and allegedly harrassment. Zuendel was on trial for "false news" or "hate speech" or whatever, the charge was relevant to the H. This is a claim of personal harrassment, or more like "cyber stalking". Rudolf or anyone else wouldn't be brought in as experts here. It would never get that serious.
Likely, nothing will happen to you legally unless she wants to waste money on a frivolous suit. And there would be no debating of the H in the court case. Like with the IHR's case they would just take "Judicial notice" of the alleged Holocaust. If you have a half-way decent lawyer, her charges will be dropped and she pays all of it.If you do get formally charged with harassment/cyber-stalking of any sort, get a lawyer.
I know a guy who had a "[physical] stalking" charge from his [ex-]girlfriend, the state picked it up (so she couldn't withdraw the complaint) and he was too stupid to get a lawyer. Then, he again was charged with stalking (physically) an [ex-]girlfriend. And at a later date he acquired third harrassment charge but this time "cyber stalking". And he was talking to the family of the "victim" and they didn't have any way to get the charges dropped. It becomes a state issue. In your case it is between different states, not in the same county/state like here with this idiot I know.
In the meantime don't message any of them, ideally. If someone does message/talk you about it and you can't help youself, just make sure to state that you are the one feeling harassed, abused, afraid. Any statements (such as facebook and phone calls) can be used against you.
If the police call you again, tell them you just wish this lady would stop harassing you. Don't even insult the lady or call them names. They would have to make the case of you repeatedly going out of your way to cause them distress for there to be any argument in favor. If they contact you first, that's a difficult case to make.
The lady herself started the conversation with you, so she can't succesfully charge you with cyber stalking or harrassment if you follow these simple tips & have a lawyer. The police also do not like idiots whining to them about "harassment" -- which is a real crime but dumb people understand it as "someone said something I didn't like and if hurt my feelings".
This could also be treated as a civil rather than criminal case, in which she can basically sue you for anything she wants. I have been in legal cases before, I sued a lady and she made a frivolous counter-sue full of lies and slanded. And basically paid to publish defamatory lies about me using the court as the publisher. She lost the case and when I won she cried... it was one of the most memorable moments of my life.
But later when I tried to get a lawyer to see if I could push a case of frivolous litigation / malicious abuse of process against her, none of the attorneys were willing to take it up. The lawyers said they don't have any experience with those sorts of cases, likely be because they are extremely rare. Yet there was a recent court case (a year prior) in my state whose conclusions agreed with mine.
This lady I sued was severely mentally deranged as well, but she had a lot of money. I was broke and just out of college, the statute of limitations is like 2 years in this state for this such thing and it's very difficult to quantify damages here with any accuracy.
[BIf police contact you again, say that you felt harassed and she spoke to you first & did nothing but threaten and intimidate you. Demand they tell you the exact laws you violated and write/type them down. Then, after doing some research on those laws, immediately talk to a lawyer[/b] (pay attention to their surname by the way
In the meantime I would Google online "suing for harrassment / cyber bullying in another state"
Example: https://www.quora.com/If-someone-from-a ... eport-with
And: https://www.quora.com/What-happens-afte ... ss-charges
Many lawyers also have blogs where they post information about these subjects. Example;https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/c ... ssment.htm
Also: https://nyccriminallawyer.com/fraud-cha ... arassment/
Also please do not post her or her family's name anywhere public, especially here. That could destroy your case entirely. And also potentially cause serious issues with this website.
Read the statues for these laws in the relevant state. I have done this a few times for certain statues in my state and it is painfully boring. They speak in a different language and you have to decrypt it; It's quite tedious. My friends at university aspiring to be lawyers always said I would be good at it, but I wouldn't want that career myself.
Again: If you do get formally charged with harassment/cyber-stalking of any sort, get a lawyer.
Let them do all the talk for you. You won't be taken seriously otherwise, no matter how good your case. And the veracity of the "Holocaust" story will not be brought up at all.