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Text Exchange With a Jewish Woman

Postby JLAD Prove Me Wrong » 5 months 2 days ago (Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:21 pm)

This is a text exchange I received/exchanged with a ‘kind’ Jewish lady. Although she seems nice, when you tell her that the holocaust is fake, she shows her true colors. This text exchange demonstrates that.

Bear in mind that I did not contact her, but I told her boyfriend that the holocaust didn’t happen. He blocked me, which is his right, but then she acted like I broke the law, when I didn’t. She even called the police on me! All because I don’t believe that the holocaust was real.

She wrote: Little prick you leave everyone alone before I sent the chief of police on you. I’m so Serious.


I wrote: I didn’t even contact you. Why are you so angry?


She wrote: I’m contacting your mom now. You won’t do this again.


I wrote: Why are angry? I bring good news. Jews were not gassed. You should be happy.


She wrote: James stop seriously leave me alone. Leave my family
And boyfriend alone. You have the fbi watching you stop it immediately. This is harassment legitimately. Please stop and leave us all
Alone.


I wrote: You texted me first. I didn’t even contact you. I don’t plan on contacting you or your boyfriend again.


She wrote: You contacted my boyfriend I will be calling the police and we will file another report on you if you contact my mom dad John or any of the relatives. We’ve already gone to the police this will only escalate your case.


I wrote: You are aware that you are only further demonstrating that the holocaust is garbage history. Otherwise you would not be this frantic. Tell the police to come arrest me. I didn’t contact you, your dad, or your mentally insane mother. I have done nothing illegal. I am blocking you, you censor everything you see, just like your parents.
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Re: Text Exchange With a Jewish Woman

Postby Callahan » 5 months 2 days ago (Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:04 pm)

I wouldn't underestimate how many of these people actually believe this stuff. If grandpa tells me, "I survived five gassings and hangings, experiments, etc.", it doesn't necessarily make me a liar to believe what he says and become paranoid and traumatized by it (although maybe a fool). It's possible that this woman believes whatever her family's experiences are said to have been, and this, coupled with the rest of the "Holocaust" horrors, is enough to make her very emotionally sensitive to this topic, to the point of frantic, emotional, paranoid or even hostile outbursts the moment someone dare to challenge it.

I try to take a highly sensitive approach and give people the benefit of the doubt whenever I can. But once they start trying to attack me in any way (e.g. calling the cops??!), that's my cue to exit and let them drown with the rest of the sinking "Holocaust" ship.

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Re: Text Exchange With a Jewish Woman

Postby JLAD Prove Me Wrong » 5 months 2 days ago (Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:25 pm)

The family experience is that her Jewish grandfather left Europe before the holocaust is claimed to have occurred, and that he talked about his relatives being gassed, even though he wasn’t there to see it.

I agree she might not be lying, but she is actively working against me. Even if she 100% believes the holocaust propaganda, her reaction was over the top. It seems she is getting emotional about some of my counter arguments. So she resorts to legal action, even though the United States protects free speech. She probably wants a German model of restricted speech, one which punishes holocaust skepticism.
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Re: Text Exchange With a Jewish Woman

Postby ServantOfAhuraMazda » 5 months 2 days ago (Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:57 am)

I do not think we should discuss such people here. Of course they are emotionally attached to these stories which make up their identity as jews.

My grandfather was interned in Buchenwald yet I do not feel resentment towards the National Socialists. He knowingly broke the law and was rightfully imprisoned. It is a matter of fact that especially jewish prisoners were those making up all kinds of bullshit stories about the cruelty of germans.

Existence and prosperity of the jewish people is entirely dependent on them being the victim. Without the holocaust they would mean nothing.
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Re: Text Exchange With a Jewish Woman

Postby Pia Kahn » 5 months 1 day ago (Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:19 am)

I think you have done all you can. Just ignore her.

Her reaction is irrational and aggressive. If she were self assured and truly believed then she would not react this way. Thus, you can rest assured that she is going to return to the topic of the holocaust on her own at some point in time with or without you. You just stirred up something that is already boiling hot.
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Re: Text Exchange With a Jewish Woman

Postby Hannover » 5 months 1 day ago (Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:05 pm)

Pia Kahn wrote:If she were self assured and truly believed then she would not react this way. Thus, you can rest assured that she is going to return to the topic of the holocaust on her own at some point in time with or without you. You just stirred up something that is already boiling hot.

Yep.
Just think of it this way, JLAD, that miserable & primitive little woman will never be the same thanks to you.

And do challenge her to call the police.

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Re: Text Exchange With a Jewish Woman

Postby JLAD Prove Me Wrong » 5 months 1 day ago (Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:26 pm)

Hannover wrote:And do challenge her to call the police.


I did, right before I blocked her.

I wrote:You are aware that you are only further demonstrating that the holocaust is garbage history. Otherwise you would not be this frantic. Tell the police to come arrest me. I didn’t contact you, your dad, or your mentally insane mother. I have done nothing illegal. I am blocking you, you censor everything you see, just like your parents.


Later that afternoon, I received a phone call from the police in New York (I live in Ohio) alleging harassment. I explained in a 4 minute conversation how I am not harassing them, and that I do not plan to further contact these lunatics.

If they do bring this to court, and there is a judge silly enough to make this a court case, then I will contact revisionist historians such as Germar Rudolf and Fred Leuchter, and with their assistence, I will further demolish the holocaust in court. It will like the Zündel trial - and I plan to win it!
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Re: Text Exchange With a Jewish Woman

Postby Lamprecht » 5 months 1 day ago (Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:10 pm)

Disclaimer: I am no lawyer. But I have good friend who is and I can ask him about it if you want.
JLAD Prove Me Wrong wrote:Later that afternoon, I received a phone call from the police in New York (I live in Ohio) alleging harassment. I explained in a 4 minute conversation how I am not harassing them, and that I do not plan to further contact these lunatics.

If they do bring this to court, and there is a judge silly enough to make this a court case, then I will contact revisionist historians such as Germar Rudolf and Fred Leuchter, and with their assistence, I will further demolish the holocaust in court. It will like the Zündel trial - and I plan to win it!

This is just silly. So it is between states, and allegedly harrassment. Zuendel was on trial for "false news" or "hate speech" or whatever, the charge was relevant to the H. This is a claim of personal harrassment, or more like "cyber stalking". Rudolf or anyone else wouldn't be brought in as experts here. It would never get that serious.

Likely, nothing will happen to you legally unless she wants to waste money on a frivolous suit. And there would be no debating of the H in the court case. Like with the IHR's case they would just take "Judicial notice" of the alleged Holocaust. If you have a half-way decent lawyer, her charges will be dropped and she pays all of it.

If you do get formally charged with harassment/cyber-stalking of any sort, get a lawyer. I know a guy who had a "[physical] stalking" charge from his [ex-]girlfriend, the state picked it up (so she couldn't withdraw the complaint) and he was too stupid to get a lawyer. Then, he again was charged with stalking (physically) an [ex-]girlfriend. And at a later date he acquired third harrassment charge but this time "cyber stalking". And he was talking to the family of the "victim" and they didn't have any way to get the charges dropped. It becomes a state issue. In your case it is between different states, not in the same county/state like here with this idiot I know.

In the meantime don't message any of them, ideally. If someone does message/talk you about it and you can't help youself, just make sure to state that you are the one feeling harassed, abused, afraid. Any statements (such as facebook and phone calls) can be used against you.

If the police call you again, tell them you just wish this lady would stop harassing you. Don't even insult the lady or call them names. They would have to make the case of you repeatedly going out of your way to cause them distress for there to be any argument in favor. If they contact you first, that's a difficult case to make.

The lady herself started the conversation with you, so she can't succesfully charge you with cyber stalking or harrassment if you follow these simple tips & have a lawyer. The police also do not like idiots whining to them about "harassment" -- which is a real crime but dumb people understand it as "someone said something I didn't like and if hurt my feelings".

This could also be treated as a civil rather than criminal case, in which she can basically sue you for anything she wants. I have been in legal cases before, I sued a lady and she made a frivolous counter-sue full of lies and slanded. And basically paid to publish defamatory lies about me using the court as the publisher. She lost the case and when I won she cried... it was one of the most memorable moments of my life.

But later when I tried to get a lawyer to see if I could push a case of frivolous litigation / malicious abuse of process against her, none of the attorneys were willing to take it up. The lawyers said they don't have any experience with those sorts of cases, likely be because they are extremely rare. Yet there was a recent court case (a year prior) in my state whose conclusions agreed with mine.

This lady I sued was severely mentally deranged as well, but she had a lot of money. I was broke and just out of college, the statute of limitations is like 2 years in this state for this such thing and it's very difficult to quantify damages here with any accuracy.

[BIf police contact you again, say that you felt harassed and she spoke to you first & did nothing but threaten and intimidate you. Demand they tell you the exact laws you violated and write/type them down. Then, after doing some research on those laws, immediately talk to a lawyer[/b] (pay attention to their surname by the way :P )

In the meantime I would Google online "suing for harrassment / cyber bullying in another state"
Example: https://www.quora.com/If-someone-from-a ... eport-with
And: https://www.quora.com/What-happens-afte ... ss-charges

Many lawyers also have blogs where they post information about these subjects. Example;
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/c ... ssment.htm
Also: https://nyccriminallawyer.com/fraud-cha ... arassment/

Also please do not post her or her family's name anywhere public, especially here. That could destroy your case entirely. And also potentially cause serious issues with this website.

Read the statues for these laws in the relevant state. I have done this a few times for certain statues in my state and it is painfully boring. They speak in a different language and you have to decrypt it; It's quite tedious. My friends at university aspiring to be lawyers always said I would be good at it, but I wouldn't want that career myself.

Again: If you do get formally charged with harassment/cyber-stalking of any sort, get a lawyer. Let them do all the talk for you. You won't be taken seriously otherwise, no matter how good your case. And the veracity of the "Holocaust" story will not be brought up at all.
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Re: Text Exchange With a Jewish Woman

Postby Pia Kahn » 5 months 1 day ago (Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:27 am)

O.K. she is seriously mental. This is my advice to you:

1. Do not talk to the police at all without a lawyer.
2. Record and keep the e-mail exchange.
3. Talk to your family and best friends about what happened, show them the e-mails, since the crazy bi... will slander you as much as she can.
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Re: Text Exchange With a Jewish Woman

Postby Hektor » 5 months 1 day ago (Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:55 am)

Pia Kahn wrote:O.K. she is seriously mental. This is my advice to you:

1. Do not talk to the police at all without a lawyer.
2. Record and keep the e-mail exchange.
3. Talk to your family and best friends about what happened, show them the e-mails, since the crazy bi... will slander you as much as she can.

More senior revisionist activists will still remember Nizkor and Alt.Revisionism on the Usenet. The behaviours and methods of those ardent believer there were virtually the same as displayed by this women. Now the veracity of a variety of other subjects and claims is in dispute within society. Think of UFO's, Evolution, flat Earth, 9/11, ritual abuse, theological claims, moon landings etc. But can you imagine such behaviour from any side in these debates? Those debates can get heated at times, but I don't recall observing the behaviour one is used to from Holocaustians, when dealing with people sceptical of the claims being made.

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Re: Text Exchange With a Jewish Woman

Postby JLAD Prove Me Wrong » 5 months 23 hours ago (Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:24 am)

Hektor wrote:More senior revisionist activists will still remember Nizkor and Alt.Revisionism on the Usenet. The behaviours and methods of those ardent believer there were virtually the same as displayed by this women. Now the veracity of a variety of other subjects and claims is in dispute within society. Think of UFO's, Evolution, flat Earth, 9/11, ritual abuse, theological claims, moon landings etc. But can you imagine such behaviour from any side in these debates? Those debates can get heated at times, but I don't recall observing the behaviour one is used to from Holocaustians, when dealing with people sceptical of the claims being made.


Hektor, I must admit, I am somewhat new to revisionism (I joined in early 2018) and I am not familiar with alt revisionism or tactics used by Nizkor (my understanding of Nizkor is that it sought to discredit revisionism). Did they threaten people like the goons at Holocaust Controversies do?
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