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Re: Parler being Censored

Postby borjastick » 3 months 1 week ago (Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:33 am)

Hopefully it will be back very soon because centre right opinion and discourse is being controlled and banned by those who seek to control us. They must be hiding something very big.
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Re: Parler being Censored

Postby Lamprecht » 3 months 1 week ago (Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:54 am)

borjastick wrote:Hopefully it will be back very soon because centre right opinion and discourse is being controlled and banned by those who seek to control us. They must be hiding something very big.

It might not be back. A lot of personal data was released

70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers
https://cybernews.com/news/70tb-of-parl ... searchers/

Parler also had a system up for sending text messages and all sorts of other things that they depended on other companies for.
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Re: Parler being Censored

Postby Lamprecht » 3 months 1 week ago (Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:52 pm)

Dan Bongino is a partial owner of Parler and appeared on Fox News to explain the situation. There's also a short interview with the CEO at the beginning of the video. It's worth a watch if you want a quick rundown of what's going on with the website and app.



Mirror: https://video.foxnews.com/v/6221871109001
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Re: Parler being Censored / Destruction of Parler Exposes One of the Biggest U.S. Shams…

Postby Goethe » 3 months 1 week ago (Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:24 pm)

The bigger picture concerning Parler is addressed in this article from Revolver which points out the fact that it's not a question of 'well, build your own company', it's a question of overcoming all the obstacles by leftist tech elitists AND the leftist, increasingly communist, US government.
“Build your own company” is a lie, a trope repeated by those too clueless to realize that the tech-government alliance will never allow serious competition to flourish. “Build your own company” now also requires that you “build your own web hosting platform,” “build your own payments processor,” and “build your own financial system.”
Want to flee to a state that isn’t under the left’s control? Even that won’t work now. “Build your own state” is insufficient. The American oligarchy has already had test runs of forcing whole U.S. states to comply with its decrees.

The Destruction of Parler Exposes One of the Biggest U.S. Shams…
https://www.revolver.news/2021/01/parle ... te-cartel/

America has finally had the definitive test case for a recurring conservative idea: The notion that the “free market” is a solution to the left’s private-sector totalitarianism. And the answer is clear: Under the modern hegemony of globalist progressivism, it is impossible for conservatives to build their own liberty-focused alternatives to left-wing monopolies. All such efforts will be destroyed. The only solution is to tear down the progressive hegemony completely.

For years, censorship has gradually increased on the most important tech platforms. Facebook is throttling “fake news,” Twitter is banning personalities on flimsier and flimsier pretexts, and Google was deciding which websites can have ads and which ones cannot. Now, even the President himself has been silenced, cut off from Twitter, Facebook, and even his own email list:

Trump’s email provider has removed his service, cutting his campaign off from their email list of supporters. https://t.co/yArEXdk1yE

— Kevin Beaumont (@GossiTheDog) January 9, 2021

The fix, countless “small-government” conservatives said, is simple: Just build your own alternative companies.

No person is more dogmatically committed to this position than Dispatch editor David French, Bill Kristol’s choice to mount a NeverTrump presidential bid. For French, it is impossible for private-sector censorship to ever be bad, and the solution is simply to go out and found one’s own companies:

I freely admit that I'm out of step with a portion of the base that apparently believes it should have a right to spew hate and lies on private platforms they did not build and do not own. I'm completely untroubled by that fact.

— David French (@DavidAFrench) January 8, 2021

State interference with the speech policies of private corporations is a direct threat to civil liberties. Americans should be able to construct online communities that reflect the culture and ethos of the company’s founders and leaders. /end https://t.co/x7c9xYk6Jn

— David French (@DavidAFrench) May 28, 2020

“Just construct your own online communities,” French says.

Parler, tragically, was foolish enough to take him at his word.

The website launched with a noble purpose: Rather than wait for Twitter to squelch every form of dissent from the platform, genuine backers of free speech should simply create their own, less-censored platform. People who actually want to read what people think could join Parler, while bland idiots who enjoy echo chambers could stick with Twitter. The free market in action!

But the free market was a sham. As soon as Parler began gaining in popularity, the knives came out for it. Well before Wednesday’s incident at the Capitol, it was clear that powerful forces had marked the company for destruction. First came hostile news articles to set the stage:

Since the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Parler has caught on among right-wing politicians and “influencers” – people with large online followings – as a social media platform where they can share and promote ideas without worrying about the company blocking or flagging their posts for being dangerous or misleading. However, the website has become a haven for far-right extremists and conspiracy theorists who are now interacting with the mainstream conservatives flocking to the platform.

As the three highest-profile social media companies – YouTube, Facebook and Twitter – continue to take action to mitigate the spread of extremism and disinformation, Parler has welcomed the ensuing exodus of right-wing users. [PBS]

After the Capitol riot, which Parler’s owners played no role in, the site’s enemies moved immediately to annihilate it. First Google kicked it off its app store, and then Apple followed. On Saturday night, Amazon announced it will kick Parler off Amazon Web Services, meaning the website will be down entirely until it finds a new webhost. The next step is easy to predict: Whatever company decides to work with Parler will itself become a target, so companies will refuse their business. That’s already happening:

The CEO of the conservative-friendly social app Parler said that all of its vendors have abandoned the company following recent bans from Google, Apple, and Amazon.

“Every vendor, from text message services to email providers to our lawyers, all ditched us too, on the same day,” Parler CEO John Matze said in an interview with Fox News on Sunday.



In a post on Saturday night, Matze said that the service “will be unavailable on the internet for up to a week as we rebuild from scratch” and that “we have many competing for our business.”

But in Sunday’s interview, Matze said that it was having difficulties finding a new vendor to work with. [The Verge]

As a parting shot, one of Parler’s former business partners exposed it to a massive hacking operation.

Parler, a social network used to plan the storming of the U.S. Capitol last week, has been hit by a massive data scrape. Security researchers collected swaths of user data before the network went dark Monday morning after Amazon, Google, and Apple booted the platform.



Reddit users claim that the scrape was made possible due Twilio, an American cloud communications platform that provided the platform with phone number verification services, cutting ties with Parler.

In a press release announcing the decision, Twilio revealed which services Parler was using. This information allowed hackers to deduct that it was possible to create users and verified accounts without actual verification.

With this type of access, newly minted users were able to get behind the login box API used for content delivery. That allowed them to see which users had moderator rights and this in turn allowed them to reset passwords of existing users with simple “forgot password” function. Since Twilio no longer authenticated emails, hackers were able to access admin accounts with ease. [Cybernews]

Twilio’s politically-motivated attack on Parler exposed millions of users to a malicious invasion of privacy. It should expose them to a massive lawsuit; it may even be criminal. But don’t expect that offense to be a priority for the legal system.

Parler tried to “build its own,” and the most powerful forces in American life colluded to destroy it, just as they will destroy any who try to imitate it. In fact, this has already happened in other cases. BitChute, a less-moderated alternative to YouTube, was kicked off PayPal and soft-blocked on Twitter for the offense of not banning enough people.

“Build your own company” is a lie, a trope repeated by those too clueless to realize that the tech-government alliance will never allow serious competition to flourish. “Build your own company” now also requires that you “build your own web hosting platform,” “build your own payments processor,” and “build your own financial system.”

Want to flee to a state that isn’t under the left’s control? Even that won’t work now. “Build your own state” is insufficient. The American oligarchy has already had test runs of forcing whole U.S. states to comply with its decrees. When North Carolina tried to prevent sexual perverts from using opposite-sex restrooms in 2017, the state was targeted by massive boycotts until the legislature meekly rescinded the law:

North Carolina on Thursday repealed a law restricting bathroom use for transgender people, hoping to bring back businesses and sports leagues that boycotted the Southern state because they saw the year-old measure as discriminatory.



The new measure rescinds House Bill 2, the so-called bathroom bill also popularly known as HB 2, which required transgender people to use the bathrooms, changing rooms and showers in state-run buildings that correspond to the sex on their birth certificate rather than their gender identity.

HB 2’s enactment a year ago prompted boycotts that cost the state economy hundreds of millions of dollars. Deutsche Bank AG and PayPal Holdings Inc reversed expansion plans in the state. Entertainers such as Bruce Springsteen and Itzhak Perlman canceled concerts.

In basketball-crazed North Carolina, the withdrawal of National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) tournament games and the National Basketball Association All-Star game, which had been awarded to Charlotte, reverberated throughout the state. [Reuters]

In early 2020, threats of similar boycotts were used to keep South Dakota from banning sex-change treatments for children in the service of “transgender” extremism.

The real challenge for conservatives, then, is clear. The crisis of freedom in America is not a simple matter of passing local laws, or building a parallel network of websites, banks, domain registrars, and more. The bottleneck on freedom is not a few socialists, or a few rich companies. It’s the American state itself, which treats any ideologically independent body of sufficient size with the same ruthlessness as a rogue state that won’t accept child transgenderism and abortion in exchange for “foreign aid.”

Such a system cannot be stopped by founding a new company that will just be squished like a bug. It can only be stopped by tearing it down completely, and building a new power structure with totally different values. And that can only be done by building a political movement that understands the stakes and plays to win.
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Re: Parler being Censored

Postby Lamprecht » 3 months 1 week ago (Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:53 pm)

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“Build your own company” is a lie, a trope repeated by those too clueless to realize that the tech-government alliance will never allow serious competition to flourish. “Build your own company” now also requires that you “build your own web hosting platform,” “build your own payments processor,” and “build your own financial system.”
Want to flee to a state that isn’t under the left’s control? Even that won’t work now. “Build your own state” is insufficient. The American oligarchy has already had test runs of forcing whole U.S. states to comply with its decrees.

This meme sums it up:
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The typical argument is that these are private companies so they can discriminate against anyone they want, unlike the government... except certain so-called "oppressed" groups that have special protections and rights.
They will say the First Amendment does not apply because these are not government entities. But many of these companies which have been denying their services to certain people (Mastercard, PayPal, Amazon, Cloudflare, Twitter, Facebook, Apple, YouTube/Google, etc.) are monopolies. Monopolies aren't even legal, but antitrust laws aren't enforced. The exception is public commodities - like water/sewage, power/utilities, phone companies, public transport, etc - these are called natural monopolies and they are not allowed to discriminate against people for their beliefs. I'm pretty sure the water company can't shut off your house's water if you make a pro-Trump post on social media (unless you throw a party during a "pandemic"). I think the court case "Marsh v. Alabama" also applies here.

Also, these "private companies" operate on the internet. The creation of the internet was funded by the US government [read: American taxpayer]. A lot of these companies also receive subsidies from the government. This is all supposed to be justified because people are "spreading hate speech" that "incites violence." But public support of BLM and Antifa on major platforms was/is permitted despite all of the rioting, burning, and looting that was done in their name.

They can't honestly say any more to "Just make your own Twitter" because that's exactly what Parler did and look what happened. These radical extremists simply hate freedom of speech, the First Amendment is simply an annoying relic to them.
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Re: Parler being Censored

Postby borjastick » 3 months 1 week ago (Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:33 am)

It's the two face arses in the democrats that really take the biscuit. They never once shouted 'FIRE' when BLM and Antifa were burning and murdering right across the country six months ago which was being fuelled by Twitter et al. That apparently was just freedom of expression and the uprisings of the oppressed, which they see as perfectly ok.

I am very very worried about the US right now. If the left continues with their totally mad policies and Joe carries out Kamala's plan for Black Power and 'equality' and The New Green Deal, the country will break up and break down into poverty and chaos.

I think it likely that at the start of every meeting with Harris and Biden she says to him 'When I want your opinion Joe, I'll give it to you'.
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Re: Parler being Censored

Postby Wachtman » 3 months 1 week ago (Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:59 am)

I agree with this statement, and with this accompanying report from the Washington Post, I would say the lawlessness of this past Summer's riots, and the very light response by elected officials then, emboldened criminals in the U.S. at the highest levels:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html

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Re: Parler being Censored

Postby Turpitz » 3 months 6 days ago (Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:01 am)

Sad to see people on this forum following the Jewess and hardcore, Zionist like 'Katie Hopkins', I wonder what her real name is? Didn't she work in the British Army Intelligence Corp? Always slagging of Arabs and blaming them for everything to take the heat from Organised Jewry. You speak for yourself cock and let it be known that I, as a member of this forum, completely and utterly disown myself from that Zionist harridan.

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Re: Parler being Censored

Postby Goethe » 3 months 5 days ago (Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:11 pm)

Turpitz wrote:Sad to see people on this forum following the Jewess and hardcore, Zionist like 'Katie Hopkins', I wonder what her real name is? Didn't she work in the British Army Intelligence Corp? Always slagging of Arabs and blaming them for everything to take the heat from Organised Jewry. You speak for yourself cock and let it be known that I, as a member of this forum, completely and utterly disown myself from that Zionist harridan.

I believe her real name is Hopkins, and she was schooled in a convent.
You are free to "disown yourself from that Zionist harridan" if you wish, but does anyone care?
Your constant use of crude language doesn't help you either.
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Re: Parler being Censored

Postby Turpitz » 3 months 5 days ago (Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:21 pm)

Tell us Goethe, just what is this British intel trained Jewess's opinion on The Industry considering what a seeker of truth and heroine she is?

This 'Parler' will be used to further atomize and fragment any continuity or consensus that was gathering momentum elswhere. Out of the frying pan into the fire!

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Parler back online, but no longer allows free speech

Postby Lamprecht » 2 months 2 days ago (Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:07 pm)

Parler is back online, after firing the CEO.
However, the website now says "hate speech" is against the "community guidelines" -- and defines it in the usual way. None of the standard, poorly-defined -ism's, and also if they don't like what you have to say otherwise you will be banned.

Parler’s New Hosting Provider Bans Undefined ‘Hateful Content’, Says Parler’s New Algorithm Will Police Platform Sufficiently
http://web.archive.org/web/202102161556 ... ficiently/ | http://archive.fo/1uYed

Statement by the new web host, SkySilk: https://twitter.com/SkySilkCloud/status ... 0864263168
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Milo Yiannopoulos was also banned, but then unbanned. Milo is quite famous though, so I'd say this is the end to Parler as any sort of "free speech platform."
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Re: Parler being Censored

Postby Hannover » 2 months 2 days ago (Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:36 pm)

lamprecht:
Parler is back online, after firing the CEO.
However, the website now says "hate speech" is against the "community guidelines" -- and defines it in the usual way. None of the standard, poorly-defined -ism's, and also if they don't like what you have to say otherwise you will be banned.

So IOW, after all the goodwill they garnered from so much of the public when they were censored, they are now against free speech.
The question remains whether their members will leave or stay and endure such communist / Zionist dictates.

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Re: Parler being Censored

Postby Hannover » 1 month 3 weeks ago (Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:08 am)

There is no issue more important than free speech,
From it grows truth and honesty, and that is why free speech is banned.

Here's more on the sad state of affairs that is Parler.

See the original article for links which reveal more details.

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Only lies require censorship.
BETRAYED: How Parler Sold Out to the Globalist Establishment to Get Back Online

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/betrayed- ... ck-online/

Big League Politics has reported on the plight of Parler, a social media upstart receiving a great deal of support from Republican politicians and talking heads, as it has been thrown off the web following the raucous Jan. 6 Capitol protest.

Parler has done itself no favors by relying on Amazon to provide their cloud hosting services, and then switching to another provider who has a blanket ban on all so-called hate speech in their terms of service without defining what really falls under that classification.

In a recent profile from The Telegraph, it was explained how the organization’s billionaire backer, Rebekah Mercer, got Parler back online. She acquiesced to censorship policies that are supported by the Big Tech giants.

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“One thing the company has added, likely in part as a play to be added back to the Apple App Store, is automated moderating ability, which involves computer systems scanning posts to flag offending material. Major social media sites like Facebook and Twitter have employed this type of moderating technology for years, to varying degrees of success, but Parler had long resisted,” the profile stated.

Parler has also brought on board a new CEO who is pushing a scheme that would allow oligarchs like George Soros to rewrite the Constitution.

Mark Meckler, founder of the Convention of States Project, is now heading up Parler on at least a temporary basis. The Convention of States Project wants to create a new constitutional convention that would put every provision of the U.S. Constitution up for grabs. It would give liberals an opportunity to codify all of their most grandiose and destructive schemes into the law.

“His 2012 book advocates for ‘single-issue constitutional conventions,’ but he has declared under oath that the Article V Convention is not a Constitutional Convention,” a representative from the John Birch Society said to the National File regarding Meckler. The John Birch Society is a patriotic group that has opposed what they call a “Con Con” for decades.

“As well, he hosted with Harvard Professor Lawrence Lessig the Constitutional Convention Conference. Again, he has declared under oath that the Article V Convention is not a constitutional convention,” they added.

Lessig is a far-left operative with deep ties to George Soros. He led an effort to overturn the results of the 2016 presidential election by urging electors to put in Hillary Clinton instead of Donald Trump. These are the types of cronies who are behind Meckler’s plot to permanently alter the U.S. Constitution.

Although Parler may have started with the best of intentions, they have already been co-opted by the globalist establishment and forced to grovel to their opposition just to stay online. They may ultimately be remembered as an example of how not to run an alternative social media platform.
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Re: Parler, Censorship

Postby Snow » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:59 am)

Sannhet wrote:I don't understand why Parler is a closed-off network, with content only viewable by registered users who register with a phone number. This seems needlessly self-limiting. Among the problems with this, it prevents material from getting indexed on search engines. Even when trying to access a profile page you have a direct link to, it redirects you the page https://parler.com/auth/access and requests a sign-in. If this is the way it is, Parler is even more closed-off than Facebook.

For whatever weaknesses this CODOH-Forum has or has had in its nearly twenty years of life, it is to be commended that it is good at saving the content put into it for years, and open access (googleable). Social media as we came to know it in the 2010s, on the other hand, is highly ephemeral and, if closed-access, seems strange.

Here is their policy -- and the only content at the main page Parler.com except for the register and log-in buttons:

Free Expression; User Privacy

Parler is an unbiased social platform focused on open dialogue and user engagement. We allow free speech and do not censor ideas, political parties or ideologies. We protect your privacy and will never sell your personal data.


Do not trust any of them who need your phone number.


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