David Cole's Q&A video of July 21, 2020

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Re: David Cole's Q&A video of July 21, 2020

Postby Lamprecht » 2 days 10 hours ago (Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:48 pm)

Pia Kahn wrote:"The lack of evidence of transported Jews in the East is certainly a weakness in the history of Aktion Reinhard."

This argument is slowly but steadily losing its ground. Several people were transited through the Reinhard camps.

https://inconvenienthistory.com/12/2/7311

And then, if they weren't transisted, why can't we find the remains of the jews in the locations, where they were supposedly cremated and burried? Well, because they weren't cremated and burried, where the believers say. That really settles this.

Yes, Jews were transited from multiple AR camps:

Jews Transited through "pure extermination camps" Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka
viewtopic.php?t=13330


Pia Kahn wrote:I wonder, why he doesn't mention the "Höfle-Telegram"? For the time being it is considered to be the best documentary evidence for the extermination of Jews in the Reinhard camps.

Oh well, I'll tell you why:

1. The document does not mention any extermination.
2. The Hoefle-telegram lists Majdanek among the Reinhard camps and he cannot square that with the pure extermination camp hypothesis. David Cole doesn't believe that Majdanek was an extermination camp. Majdanek has been officially deleted from the list of extermination camps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B6fle_Telegram

I think that puts David Cole between a Rock and a hard stone. If he believes that Majdanek was not an extermination camp, then the Reinhard camps were not extermination camps. If he believes that the "Aktion Reinhard" was a policy of extermination, then Majdanek was part of this extermination policy.


Other documents on the AR camps don't mention anything of the sort either. See part of my reply to another thread:

Re: Hoefle telegram / Korherr report / news articles
viewtopic.php?p=97380#p97380
Lamprecht wrote:17 March 1942 Fritz Reuter memo on his conversation with Höfle
viewtopic.php?t=12417#p92065
Reuter explains that Jews sent unfit for work would be expelled from Poland via Belzec to the east, "cross the border and never return." Is that supposed to mean killed? Hoefle was Globocnik's deputy. Both Hoefle and Globkcnick "committed suicide" before being put on trial: Very convenient.

13 August 1942 Karl Wolff memo to Albert Ganzenmüller
viewtopic.php?t=10360
In response to "The Ganzenmuller Letter" regarding deporting Jews to Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka – Wolff stated that he was very glad to hear about their plan "to accelerate this population transfer" - a transfer into mass graves that cannot be shown to exist anywhere close to the quantities alleged? Mass graves don't have legs and can't travel.

The "Operation Reinhadt Secrecy Oath"
viewtopic.php?t=12924
The document says no photographing or talking about the camp is to be allowed for AR staff. Perhaps this explains the "lack of evidence" for resettlement. Regardless, it explains that the purpose of these camps was an "evacuation of Jews" policy. Some dishonest people try to use this as evidence of an extermination camp, but it is in no way incompatible with the transit camp thesis. It's just more "code word" conspiracy theorist tinfoil-hat nonsense.

5 July 1943 Himmler order "transit camp Sobibor is to be converted into a concentration camp"
viewtopic.php?t=4973 and https://codoh.com/library/document/lies ... obibor/en/
"The transit camp Sobibór is to be converted into a concentration camp. In the concentration camp a plant for the repair of captured munitions is to be established."

5 January 1944 Globocnik Report to Himmler (4024-PS) on Operation Reinhardt
viewtopic.php?t=12359
The document above explains quite clearly that AR was an operation to round up Jews, confiscate their wealth, and then deport them away to the newly occupied Eastern territories.
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Re: David Cole's Q&A video of July 21, 2020

Postby Sannhet » 2 days 4 hours ago (Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:37 pm)

Pia Kahn wrote:I posted a simple question below his video. The question was immediately deleted. David fears debate.


The Youtube-comments are split on the latest Cole video but the top-voted comments all look like this:

Andew Tarj***i
2 days ago

Those whom you refer to as deniers were primarily interested in the absence of physical evidence upon which the credibility of the eyewitness depended.

In that respect, the burden of proof is on you and not the "three stoogies". Also, physical evidence is primary evidence, all else, including that which you have presented here is supplementary. Therefore, if the physical evidence fails, so too does the supplementary. If you disagree, I would be fascinated to "learn" why.

PowerTuber 3.0
1 day ago

Looks like it [David Cole's new book] won't be a revisionist book but a milder form of the current H lies.

blake121666
1 day ago

There is no clear connection between any usage of the word Todesfällen in the Korherr Report and the inferred (from that report) 2.4 million Jews. Reasses your bogus argument about that. You are misleadingly giving the impression that Korherr clearly refers to 2.4 million Todesfällen Jews. That is inference upon inference - not clear statements.


And this comment is especially good:
What do you think 20 year old David cole would say to 50 year old David cole if they were able to talk to each other would you have believed your older self?

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Re: David Cole's Q&A video of July 21, 2020

Postby PeddlePowered » 1 day 5 hours ago (Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:25 pm)

borjastick wrote:I know exactly what he means. He means to obscure and obstruct.


David Cole may want to be seen as a holocaust affirmer to get his co-religionists off his back.

Or he may be helping us to undermine Jewish power by questioning the magical six million. The holocaust is a pillar of Jewish power. For ordinary folk to see this magical six million questioned breaks a spell which the Jews have put people under. If that was a lie, they wonder, what else could be a lie? Suddenly the Jewish narratives can be questioned.

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Re: David Cole's Q&A video of July 21, 2020

Postby PrudentRegret » 1 day 2 hours ago (Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:33 pm)

PeddlePowered wrote:
borjastick wrote:I know exactly what he means. He means to obscure and obstruct.


David Cole may want to be seen as a holocaust affirmer to get his co-religionists off his back.

Or he may be helping us to undermine Jewish power by questioning the magical six million. The holocaust is a pillar of Jewish power. For ordinary folk to see this magical six million questioned breaks a spell which the Jews have put people under. If that was a lie, they wonder, what else could be a lie? Suddenly the Jewish narratives can be questioned.


That's a funny thought. If somebody who doesn't believe that Auschwitz had gas chambers can ever be rehabilitated as a "non-Denier" then that might really indicate the Auschwitz legend is being abandoned.

David Cole being accepted as a "former denier" would move the Overton Window of the Holocaust narrative in the revisionist's favor, for sure.


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