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#NoDenyingIt - "Holocaust survivors" launch "campaign" demanding Jewish CEO of Facebook censor "Holocaust denial"

Postby Lamprecht » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:43 am)

First, the ADL revealed its plan to censor speech that they hate through economic sabotage. But now, they've trotted out a bunch of senile "survivors" to prattle on about how if someone is allowed to say that Hitler didn't gas the Jews, that means they want to gas the Jews themselves.

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JTA - Holocaust Survivors Launch Campaign to Fight Holocaust Denial on Facebook: https://archive.fo/nw0ba or https://archive.fo/K40y8
AP - Survivors Urge Facebook to Remove Holocaust Denial Posts: https://archive.fo/J2lyr
EJP - Survivors launch online campaign to ban Holocaust denial from Facebook: https://archive.fo/6vVsC
Israel Hayom - Holocaust survivors push Facebook to delete Holocaust-denying posts: https://archive.fo/ZYZNc
Jewish Press - Hey, Mark Zuckergerg, There’s #NoDenyingIt - Roman Kent: https://archive.fo/n29UA
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Exploitation of Survivors Chair Epstein, Please post a reply.

Postby Merlin300 » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:43 pm)

The ADL is the greatest threat to free speech in America on many fronts; rights of students to speak out for Palestine rights, censorship of the internet.

This new attack on internet discussion is an exploitation of elderly people which is, for the most part, shameless.
Most GIs fought for Freedom, not blacklisting and censorship. I have discussed with my grandfather and great Uncle (both combat vets.)
Most people who left Europe support American values of free speech and discussion.


Esta Gordon Epstein, Chair of the Board of Directors should be ashamed!
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Re: #NoDenyingIt - "Holocaust survivors" launch "campaign" demanding Jewish CEO of Facebook censor "Holocaust denial"

Postby Werd » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:32 pm)

But, but, but, I thought Jews loved American values.

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Re: #NoDenyingIt - "Holocaust survivors" launch "campaign" demanding Jewish CEO of Facebook censor "Holocaust denial"

Postby stinky » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:36 am)

All trotted out on July 30/31.
No collusion here.
These were all spontaneous articles written completely independently to cover one of today's most pressing issues, and not a moment too soon.
It's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled

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Re: #NoDenyingIt - "Holocaust survivors" launch "campaign" demanding Jewish CEO of Facebook censor "Holocaust denial"

Postby Lamprecht » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:29 am)

Werd wrote:But, but, but, I thought Jews loved American values.

American values? Which American values, the ones we see on the TV? :lol:

Joe Biden Acknowledges 'Immense' Jewish Role in American Mass Media and Cultural Life
http://archive.fo/8ifra

What about the 2nd Amendment?
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"No Denying It" campaign promoted on The TODAY Show

Postby Sannhet » 3 months 1 week ago (Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:19 pm)

On the US TV talking circuit:

Holocaust survivors call for Facebook to crack down on deniers
Aug. 10, 2020

NBC’s Harry Smith talks to Holocaust survivors working with the Claims Conference's NoDenyingIt campaign as they share their personal stories and speak out about combating Holocaust deniers on social media. They call on Facebook to do more to stop the spread of lies on their platform.

This 4:50 video clip aired on NBC's "Today" show during the 9am EDT hour, Monday August 10, 2020:



If you manage to watch the whole thing, you'll see the anchors' banter at the end of the Holocaust puff-piece:

  • NBC journalist Harry Smith (b.1951): "Something needs to be done." (Smith produced this mini-documentary and narrated it, and is talking to them live).
  • (co-host) Sheinelle Jones (b.1978): "It is so important their their stories." (Harry Smith responds: "No question.")
  • (co-host) Dylan Dreyer (b.1981): "Hopefully something comes of this -- for sure."

Note that none of these three people is Jewish, nor is the fourth anchor who chimes in with moral support but who I cannot identify (a Black man). Behind-camera people who got this produced and on the air might be Jewish, but the talking heads selling the product aren't.

On the role of Harry Smith here and "Harry Smith types" far and wide across the West and in particular in the USA:

I get the feeling that Harry Smith is a true-believer who clings to the Good War myth (no doubt his father was a US military veteran called up during the war; I can imagine him saying "my father was in the military when they liberated the camps" even if his father was in Okinawa). I get the feeling that even if Harry Smith discovered 100%-proof that the Holocaust was not true, he'd still push it because it's too important to his own core identity, despite his being a White-Christian.

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Facebook 'actively promotes' Holocaust denial content to certain users, a new study finds

Postby Lamprecht » 3 months 1 week ago (Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:41 pm)

According to a new "study" Facebook supposedly promotes "Holocaust denial" content :roll:

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Facebook 'actively promotes' Holocaust denial content to certain users, a new study finds
http://archive.fo/Or0p3 or http://web.archive.org/web/2020/https:/ ... nds-2020-8
- Facebook users who have interacted with Holocaust denial content are being led to similar content via Facebook's automated algorithms, according to a new report.

- "Using a 'snowball' discovery method," a new report published by the Institute for Strategic Dialogue said, "we found that when a user follows public pages containing Holocaust denial content, Facebook actively promotes further Holocaust denial content to that user."

- Facebook has struggled with policing hate speech and divisive content for years, and a Wall Street Journal report from earlier this year revealed that Facebook executives have allowed the issues to get worse in the interest of growth.

Facebook has a major issue with its suggestion algorithms. According to a new report, if a Facebook user has previously interacted with Holocaust denial content, Facebook “actively promotes further Holocaust denial content to that user.”

That’s according to an August 10 report from the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a British think tank. The report, “Hosting the Holohoax: A Snapshot of Holocaust Denial Across Social Media,” shows that Facebook not only hosts anti-Semitic content denying that the Holocaust happened, but that it continues to present that content to users.
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This is a PDF of the "report"/"study" in question:

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Hosting the Holohoax: A Snapshot of Holocaust Denial Across Social Media
http://web.archive.org/web/2020if_/http ... lohoax.pdf

Excerpt:
Hosting the ‘Holohoax’: A Snapshot of Holocaust Denial Across Social Media
10th August 2020
Jakob Guhl & Jacob Davey

Executive Summary

Overview

Holocaust denial has long been one of the most insidious conspiracy theories targeting Jewish communities, with its extremist proponents drawn from across the ideological spectrum, from extreme right-wing to hard left to Islamist. Research has shown that digital platforms have only served to amplify and mainstream this warped strain of thinking in recent years.1 This briefing paper provides a snapshot of Holocaust denial content across major social media platforms. By analysing the term ‘holohoax’, which is commonly used by Holocaust deniers, this paper examines the extent to which Holocaust denial content is readily accessible across Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and YouTube. Although this study does not set out to provide a comprehensive overview of the phenomenon, it reveals important insights about how Facebook and Twitter provide a home to an established and active community of Holocaust deniers. While Holocaust denial is present on Reddit, our research suggests that such activity has been reduced through a combination of moderation efforts and pushback from other users. This paper also demonstrates how appropriately applied content moderation policies can be effective in denying dangerous conspiracy theorists a public platform by examining how Holocaust denial content has decreased significantly in the past year on YouTube.

Key Findings

Our research illustrates how Holocaust denial content is readily accessible across Facebook, Reddit and Twitter:

• We identified 36 Facebook pages and groups, which are either specifically dedicated to Holocaust denial or which host Holocaust denial content. The pages and groups investigated were ideologically diverse, with 9 hosting extreme-right communities, 7 anti-Zionist communities, 13 conspiracy theorist communities, 5 pro-Palestine communities, 1 an Islamist community and 1 a Christian community.

• The Facebook pages and groups have a combined number of followers of 366,068 and an average number of members of 10,168.

• We also identified 2,300 pieces of content mentioning ‘holohoax’ on Reddit, 19,000 pieces of content on Twitter, and 9,500 pieces of content on YouTube, all created between 1 June 2018 and 22 July 2020.

Our analysis highlights how Holocaust denial content is actively recommended through Facebook’s algorithm:

• Using a ‘snowball’ discovery method we found that when a user follows public pages containing Holocaust denial content, Facebook actively promotes further Holocaust denial content to that user.

Shifts in a platform’s terms of service are effective at limiting the spread of Holocaust denial content:

• By analysing the use of the term ‘holohoax’ we found that the spread of Holocaust denial content dropped significantly on YouTube following changes to their terms of service in 2019. If other platforms adopt similar policies then this would likely limit the spread of such material.

• While the number of posts on Reddit mentioning the term ‘holohoax’ has not decreased over the past two years, there are a number of factors that limit the visibility of Holocaust denial on Reddit, such as banning of subreddits dedicated to Holocaust denial, moderators deleting comments and pushback from other users.
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Conclusion

Although only presenting a small case study around Holocaust denial, this paper provides a snapshot of how such content can be found on four social media platforms. Specifically the report highlights how Facebook, which has been unwilling to recognise Holocaust denial as a form of hate speech against Jews, has a small but well-established and ideologically diverse community of Holocaust deniers on its platform. We also found that Twitter similarly contains a small but persistent level of conversation denying the Holocaust.

The research highlights how YouTube, which recognised the denial of well-documented violent events as a form of hate speech, was effective in limiting the spread of such content on its platform after it banned posts that deny the Holocaust. The implications of similar policy design at Reddit are also notable: while potentially less effective at removing specific pieces of Holocaust denial content on the platform, the community-level policy for quarantining spaces dedicated to such content seems to have been effective at demoting Holocaust denial content for new users, to the extent that it is now not easily discoverable. The platform was also identified as a forum in which counterspeech was accessible where Holocaust denial content was identified.

These findings point towards several key recommendations, which could be effective in limiting the spread of Holocaust denial content. Primarily, they suggest that companies should implement amendments to their policies, in line with companies like YouTube and Reddit, and recognise how historical disinformation is used as a tool of hate speech. Comments made by Joel Kaplan suggest that Facebook’s decision to keep Holocaust denial content on its platform is in part driven by a conceptual blind-spot in its understanding of such issues – such activity is primarily seen as an issue of historical accuracy rather than a direct weapon used by individuals targeting minority communities. Recognising genocide denial as a form of hatred could have a significant impact on the prevalence of hateful content targeting minority communities online.

There is a range of policy responses and sanctions possible for Holocaust denial content, as displayed by the approaches taken in the YouTube and Reddit cases. Removal of content or channels is one option; a less robust response is to down-rank Holocaust denial content or channels to ensure that they are not recommended to or searchable by new users. This is more in line with Reddit’s current approach to the problem, though still enables hateful antisemitic content to remain online. ISD’s research showed how Facebook’s content recommendation algorithms can actively point users towards Holocaust denial content: preventing its recommendation to users would be the minimal first step that Facebook could take in order to reduce the visibility and accessibility of such content.

As well as changes of policies around hate speech, observations of platforms made in this study also point towards other areas of programming which could help limit the spread of Holocaust denial content. On Reddit, our researchers observed how community counterspeech had been effective in hiding and discrediting the Holocaust denial content that we identified. Investing in community-focused campaign work, such as the recent #NoDenyingIt campaign launched in July 2020,21 could help to raise awareness among the users of the platform and inspire community pushback against those engaged in Holocaust denial. In the long term, well-established Holocaust education organisations can play an important role in promoting digital civility as a component of their educational materials, to empower new generations to push back against those perpetrating hate against Jewish communities online.
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