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US State Department slams "Bosnia, Belarus, Ukraine and particularly Poland" for lack of action on Holocaust restitution

Postby Sannhet » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:35 am)

US hits Poland, others in Europe over Holocaust claims
By MATTHEW LEE
July 29, 2020 | Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — The United States is criticizing a number of eastern and central European nations, including Poland, for failing to compensate Holocaust victims and their families and communities for property seized during Nazi occupation in World War II as the numbers of survivors dwindles due to age.

In a report issued Wednesday [July 29], the State Department called out Bosnia, Belarus, Ukraine and particularly Poland for not having acted on restitution claims. Croatia, Latvia and Russia were also taken to task in the report, which is likely to draw angry responses from the governments identified.

“Much time has passed, and the need for action is urgent,” Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in a forward to the 200-page report that looks at the records of 46 countries in meeting commitments they made to restitution in 2009.

The report had been due for release in March but was postponed because of the coronavirus pandemic and concerns it could fuel anti-Semitism during the economic turn-down caused by the outbreak. Its release after a four-month delay comes as the Trump administration has been loathe to pick fights with conservative European governments it is seeking support from in other areas.

“As we mark the 75th anniversary of the end of the Holocaust, the legacy of the Nazis’ mass looting remains in too many places and largely unaddressed,” he said. “Given the advanced age of Holocaust survivors, many of whom live in poverty, the findings of this report serve as a reminder that countries must act with a greater sense of urgency to provide restitution or compensation for the property wrongfully seized from victims of the Holocaust and other victims of Nazi persecution.”

The report cited “bureaucratic inertia” for much of the problem that has persisted for generations and in some cases been exacerbated by a rise in anti-Semitic sentiment throughout Europe.


More: https://apnews.com/837620e71380aa711e9094f8b8c84677
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See if you can spot the logical flaw here:

“Much time has passed, and the need for action is urgent,” Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said.

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The report [...] was postponed because of the coronavirus pandemic and concerns it could fuel anti-Semitism

Does the US government postpone releasing other reports for fear it could "fuel anti-[insert group] feeling"?

Here is an alternative idea: Refrain from bullying countries to pay Holocaust Tribute. That would be a good way to make sure no anti-Semitism get fueled. Why not do that? But we cannot do that. Bullying countries to make Holocaust Tribute payments and crush Anti-Semitism appear to be US State Department priorities today.

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Re: US State Department slams "Bosnia, Belarus, Ukraine and particularly Poland" for lack of action on Holocaust restitu

Postby Sannhet » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:57 am)

The report was mandated by Congress in a law known as the Justice for Uncompensated Survivors Today, or JUST, Act, which was signed by President Donald Trump in 2018 with the support of many lawmakers and Jewish groups.

“As the JUST Act report makes clear, Holocaust survivors and Jewish communities continue to wait for justice for property that was wrongfully taken from them,” said Gideon Taylor, operations chairman of the World Jewish Restitution Organization. “Even in these hard times, countries should live up to their pledges to address the material wrongs of the Holocaust while the remaining survivors are still alive.”

The "Justice for Uncompensated Survivors Today (JUST) Act," has the following legislative history:

Introduced in the Same day in House and Senate as H.R.1226 / S.447 by Joe Crowley / Tammy Baldwin [co-sponsored by Marco Rubio] on 27 February 2017
Passed the Senate on 12 December 2017 (Unanimous consent [ :shock: ])
Passed the House on 24 April 2018 (Voice vote)
Signed into law by President Donald Trump on 9 May 2018


This whole process sounds like one of those "minutes-long standing ovation by all sides" things. Unanimous consent. Voice vote. It began five weeks after the Donald Trump inauguration. No one among the 535 seats in the two houses of the US Congress had the courage to oppose this international extortion attempt?

The sponsor in the US House of Representatives, Joe Crowley, was the white-male Congressman who famously lost the 2018 election to an unknown person called Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Crowley did everything right, jumping through hoops for the Holocaust Lobby and all; how could this happen?

Also I notice the JUST Act was signed into law on the day after V-E Day. Symbolism?

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Re: US State Department slams "Bosnia, Belarus, Ukraine and particularly Poland" for lack of action on Holocaust restitu

Postby Archie » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:44 pm)

Absolutely disgusting.

There is something very unseemly about Jews, the wealthiest ethnic group in the world by far, shaking people down people for money for something from over 75 years ago. It was bad enough when they did it to the Swiss, but to now turn toward these less wealthy Eastern European nations is truly shameless.

It's also noteworthy here that the Jews don't even care about completely contradicting their own propaganda from decades ago. The lies are adapted over time to suit current needs. At various times they've thrown a bone to the 5 million Gentile victims of the Nazis when they've found it convenient to broaden the narrative. But now that they want to shake them down then suddenly they are conspirators in the extermination instead of victims.

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Re: US State Department slams "Bosnia, Belarus, Ukraine and particularly Poland" for lack of action on Holocaust restitu

Postby Sannhet » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:24 pm)

Archie wrote:Absolutely disgusting.

There is something very unseemly about Jews, the wealthiest ethnic group in the world by far, shaking people down people for money for something from over 75 years ago.

As I see it, the story here is considerably more interesting than a mere financial shakedown attempt.

What do you make of (the non-Jewish) Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's role here, as the face of this initiative? As best I can tell, none of the Congressional sponsors of the bill were Jewish, either.

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Re: US State Department slams "Bosnia, Belarus, Ukraine and particularly Poland" for lack of action on Holocaust restitu

Postby Archie » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:36 pm)

The impression I get from Pompeo is that the Zionists have him reliably in their pocket. They often try to find Gentile front men for their schemes.

And I’m not surprised the USA is taking the lead. It was the exact same thing with the Swiss case. I believe the Swiss scoffed at the initial Zionist demands before the US came in with economic threats. They are also reusing the same line about how the matter is “urgent” because the survivors are now so old. Even twenty years ago that was a silly argument because statistically there should have been almost no survivors even back then (unless the holocaust is a fraud and there were actually millions of survivors at the end of the war :wink: ). They say its urgent to force a hasty payout before the matter can even be investigated. Not that I think these claims even deserve an investigation. Even if they could prove appropiration of specific property in an individual case, I would still oppose reparations for Jews for the simple fact that only Jews get to make such claims, but never the other way around. Just imagine if people could start claiming reparations against Jews, a people known for millennia as swindlers and usurers.

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Re: US State Department slams "Bosnia, Belarus, Ukraine and particularly Poland" for lack of action on Holocaust restitu

Postby stinky » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:37 pm)

Sannhet wrote:What do you make of (the non-Jewish) Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's role here, as the face of this initiative? As best I can tell, none of the Congressional sponsors of the bill were Jewish, either.


None of the Congressional sponsors of the bill may have been Jewish.
It matters little - US Congress is 'sponsored' by Jews. I doubt that needs any explanation at CODOH.
Pompeo is completely in the tank. He is a water carrier for zionists, as is little Marco Rubio.
It is so obvious it doesn't require any deep digging.
The President is owned. Both sides of politics are owned.

Archie wrote:The impression I get from Pompeo is that the Zionists have him reliably in their pocket. They often try to find Gentile front men for their schemes.


Employing 'front-men' or cut-outs is standard. Otherwise even the dumbest of 'normies' would recognise the control.
Jews also have a habit of shape-shifting to conceal their real identities.

The Bronfman's (Mega group - Bronfman, Lauder, Spielberg, Wexner, Steinhardt etc) were instrumental in the Swiss shakedown.
Steven Spielberg also founded the Shoah Visual History Foundation.
Remember it was also Spielberg who tipped millions of dollars into Lipstadt's defence against Irving.
In this instance, Spielberg may have acted as the conduit for 'Mega' funds.
It's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled

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Re: US State Department slams "Bosnia, Belarus, Ukraine and particularly Poland" for lack of action on Holocaust restitu

Postby stinky » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:40 pm)

stinky wrote:
Sannhet wrote:What do you make of (the non-Jewish) Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's role here, as the face of this initiative? As best I can tell, none of the Congressional sponsors of the bill were Jewish, either.


None of the Congressional sponsors of the bill may have been Jewish.
It matters little - US Congress is 'sponsored' by Jews. I doubt that needs any explanation at CODOH.
Pompeo is completely in the tank. He's a zionist, as is little Marco Rubio - two examples of a small army of water carriers for Jewish interests within the political sphere.
It is so obvious it doesn't require any deep digging.
The President is owned. Both sides of politics are owned.

Archie wrote:The impression I get from Pompeo is that the Zionists have him reliably in their pocket. They often try to find Gentile front men for their schemes.


Employing 'front-men' or cut-outs is standard. Otherwise even the dumbest of 'normies' would recognise the control.
Jews also have a habit of shape-shifting to conceal their real identities.

The Bronfman's (Mega group - Bronfman, Lauder, Spielberg, Wexner, Steinhardt etc) were instrumental in the Swiss shakedown.
Steven Spielberg also founded the Shoah Visual History Foundation.
Remember it was also Spielberg who tipped millions of dollars into Lipstadt's defence against Irving.
In this instance, Spielberg may have acted as the conduit for 'Mega' funds.
It's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled

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Re: US State Department slams "Bosnia, Belarus, Ukraine and particularly Poland" for lack of action on Holocaust restitu

Postby Sannhet » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:33 pm)

Archie wrote:The impression I get from Pompeo is that the Zionists have him reliably in their pocket. They often try to find Gentile front men for their schemes.

And I’m not surprised the USA is taking the lead. It was the exact same thing with the Swiss case. I believe the Swiss scoffed at the initial Zionist demands before the US came in with economic threats.

For the sake of argument and as an intellectual-exploratory exercise, I am trying to come up with ways the US itself, as a state or para-state (meaning running a soft-empire with major influence far greater even than weight of economic power and distance would imply) thinks it would benefit from these increasingly farcical Holocaust initiatives. So divorced entirely from the role of Jewish lobbying, if that is even possible. In other words, it is not the Jews alone who benefit from the Holocaust civic religion and use it.

I don't see why the US (State Department) would do this, now, and against this specific list of European countries, for its own interests. Recalling the named countries are:

Bosnia, Belarus, Ukraine, "and particularly" Poland [...] Croatia, Latvia and Russia

In other contexts, some of these seven are valuable NATO allies (Poland, Croatia, Latvia) or states under some kind of quasi protection of NATO or which NATO has had real goals for in the post-Cold War era (Bosnia, Ukraine). Poland and Latvia became full-members in 2004; Croatia in 2009. Bosnia is now an "official candidate" for full-membership in NATO. Ukraine was on a similar track until the 2013-14 crisis and the civil war that followed, and everything is frozen there.

The remaining two are Belarus and Russia. The US State Department trying to bully them with Holocaust rhetoric I understand more.

Could it be that elements in the US State Department want to target Russia and Belarus and only made sure to toss in the others, like Croatia and Bosnia, into the bucket with Russia to make it seem like this was something more legitimate and comprehensive? If so, this would be a bizarre turn in Holocaust Politics, which you write above:

The Jews don't even care about completely contradicting their own propaganda from decades ago. The lies are adapted over time to suit current needs. At various times they've thrown a bone to the 5 million Gentile victims of the Nazis when they've found it convenient to broaden the narrative. But now that they want to shake them down then suddenly they are conspirators in the extermination instead of victims.

Few used the Holocaust narrative as a weapon more than the Soviet Union and Russia, including up to the present, to the extent that the Great Patriotic War cult remains relevant to Russian (and several other post-Soviet countries') national identity.

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Re: US State Department slams "Bosnia, Belarus, Ukraine and particularly Poland" for lack of action on Holocaust restitu

Postby Sannhet » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:45 pm)

stinky wrote:Pompeo is completely in the tank. He is a water carrier for zionists

Did Secretary of State Tillerson do anything like this?

He may be entirely forgotten now, but served from shortly after the Trump inauguration in early 2017 until his abrupt firing in March 2018 for reasons I don't remember.

Some highlights from a googling for Tillerson+Holocaust:

Rex Tillerson and family tour the Holocaust Museum
Washington Post
April 2017

‘Never again. Never again’: Rex Tillerson pays respects during Holocaust Remembrance Day
Associated Press
January 2018

U.S. disappointed at Polish president signing Holocaust bill: Tillerson
Reuters
February 2018

The United States is “disappointed that the Polish president has signed” legislation that would impose criminal penalties for attributing Nazi crimes to the Polish state, U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said in a statement on Tuesday.

“Enactment of this law adversely affects freedom of speech and academic inquiry,” Tillerson added. [LOL. :o ]

This is all pretty "thin gruel," a series of pro forma actions. It seems like Tillerson's heart was not much in Holocaust-pushing.

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Re: US State Department slams "Bosnia, Belarus, Ukraine and particularly Poland" for lack of action on Holocaust restitu

Postby Sannhet » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:57 pm)

An old thread:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10346

Congress to Germany: Provide more funding for Holocaust survivors
April 25, 2016

Reps. Ted Deutch, D-Fla., and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla., and Sens. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., and Susan Collins, R-Maine, sponsored the resolution, which cites Germany’s “moral and historical responsibility” to the survivors.

The two House of Representatives sponsors in that case, at least, were Jewish.

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Re: US State Department slams "Bosnia, Belarus, Ukraine and particularly Poland" for lack of action on Holocaust restitu

Postby stinky » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:08 am)

Maybe Tillerson's lack of enthusiasm while ticking off his pro-forma 'duties' in 2018 played a part in his departure.

Israel has been lavished with many 'gifts' by the Trump administration;
Golan Heights recognised as Israeli territory
Iran's IRGC designated as a terrorist group
Iran's General Soleimani assassinated
Pulled out of the JCPOA Nuclear deal with Iran
Palestinian organisations defunded
The US embassy moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem
The one sided 'deal of the century'
etc

Further, the US pulled out of UNICEF, citing unfair bias toward Israel
Sanctioned the International criminal court, citing the ICC's murmurings of investigations into US & Israeli war crimes
Appointed a Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism internationally
Continue to shovel billions of dollars in tribute to Israel every year, without fail
etc etc

Shaking down Eastern European countries on behalf of their bestest buddies is just the latest demonstration of their sevitude
It's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled


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