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"Second-generation Shoah Survivors are entitled to rights," says Int'l Center for Holocaust Reparations

Postby Sannhet » 8 months 4 days ago (Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:20 pm)

This google ad is currently running:

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SHOAH 2nd GENERATION
Is it true that second generation Holocaust
survivors are also entitled to rights?

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The website goes to CenterforReparations.org

Website title and subtitle:
International Center for Holocaust Reparations
Assistance to Holocaust survivors in exercising their rights

Top menu navigation buttons include:
[Second Generation Rights]
--> sub-menu: [New: Pension for Romanian Survivors and heirs]
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Home page contents include:
Pursuing Rights of Holocaust Survivors

  • Are you a Holocaust survivor who was interned in a Ghetto?

  • Are you a child of a Holocaust survivor who was interned in a Ghetto?

You may be entitled to a large sum of money!

It goes on:
Even if you are already receiving compensation from the Claims Conference or from the German authorities, including the German Pension Insurance you may be eligible to receive additional payments.

The pension is paid even to those who were interned for a short period of time in a Ghetto (including Ghettos in Poland, Romania (New!), Czernowitz, Shanghai, Sofia, Thessaloniki, Transnistria, Amsterdam, Lithuania, Latvia, Belarus and many more). The possibilities are for a one-time retroactive compensation, as well as a monthly payment from the German Social Security.

Who is entitled to compensation?

Any individual who was interned in a Ghetto, even for a short while, may be entitled to a monthly payment as well as a one-time retroactive payment – in some instances dated back to the year 1997.

A widow(er) of a Holocaust survivor is also eligible for a pension from Germany that would have been paid to the deceased spouse, including cases in which the spouse has been deceased for many years.

This claim can be filed even if you are already receiving a monthly reparation payment from the Claims Conference or directly from Germany (BEG, German Pension Insurance or BADV).

If you are an heir of a ghetto survivor, and the survivor or their spouse was alive on June 27th, 2002, you may be entitled to a one-time payment.

The International Center for Reparations generously only charges if it succeeds in securing Holocaust payments for its first- or second-generation Holocaust survivor clients:
How much do you charge?

We do not charge a fee for our services. After successfully filing the claim, the German Social Security will transfer the money directly into your bank account.

After you have received the restitution payment, we will charge a fee of 15% of the retroactive sum.

You will not be charged any fee if your claim was rejected.

Here is more on this outfit, which uses a US phone number:

About Us

The International Center for Holocaust Reparations is under the umbrella of Zachi Porath Ltd. (Tax Identification Number 515060218, duly organized and existing under the laws of the State of Israel, with its registered offices at 9 Hartom street, 9777509 Jerusalem, Israel).

We have been aiding Holocaust survivors all over the world in exercising their rights and have successfully helped many survivors attain their rightful money.

We employ experienced lawyers and certified German pension experts, supported by a team of dedicated and sensitive assistants who do their utmost to achieve the highest possible remuneration for the survivor (or his heirs).

I wonder how much the "certified German pension experts" who work with them, assuming they are non-Jews, are motivated by payment themselves and how much by ideology?
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Note well! -- The hook here is the second-generation survivor. angle, used to hook in viewers of this Google Ad.

It is a concept many have mocked; see, e.g.:

- "'First Generation Holocaust Survivors'????? What on earth"

A hypothetical full normalization of the concept of the "Second Generation Holocaust Survivor" then opens up the concept of "Third Generation Holocaust Survivors," which includes many, many millions now rather young with decades of expected life remaining. Here are two:

- "Third-Generation Holocaust Survivor Jared Kushner"
- "Actress Scarlett Johansson: Third Generation Holocaust Victim"

Will there be more of this in the 2020s than there was in the 2000s/2010s? It's a good bet. This is the way the Holocaust civic cult overcomes the oft-cited problem of running out of Survivors.

I still can't imagine, though, that they'll proceed logically along the same line and begin prosecutions of Second-Generation Nazis, or even Third-Generation Nazis. The concept of collective inherited guilt is, of course, an important baseline part of our (Western) culture(s) and politics, now. It is firmly in place. We need not have any cases of CNN announcing one morning the shocking pre-dawn arrest of any John Demjanjuk III, arrested for Holocaust crimes of the grandfather. But Second- and Third-Generation Holocaust Survivors seems inevitable.

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Re: "Second-generation Shoah Survivors are entitled to rights," says Int'l Center for Holocaust Reparations

Postby Breker » 8 months 4 days ago (Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:32 pm)

As if anyone is surprised at a Jew organization promoting fake "rights" of Jews to continue their cash-for-lies scam.
Of course we will never see Palestinians receiving compensation for the very real "holocaust' that has been thrust upon them by Jews.
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Re: "Second-generation Shoah Survivors are entitled to rights," says Int'l Center for Holocaust Reparations

Postby borjastick » 8 months 4 days ago (Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:24 am)

The BLM situation and reparations for blacks due to historical slavery could make this all very interesting. They will no doubt use the holocaust and reparations like those shown above as a bench mark for their claims. It would be not only a valid claim by comparison, though I could think of a very good rebuttal, but it might open up the claims of the shysters of the 'survivor' type to media scrutiny. Perhaps even ridicule.
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Re: "Second-generation Shoah Survivors are entitled to rights," says Int'l Center for Holocaust Reparations

Postby Hektor » 8 months 4 days ago (Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:29 am)

Why don't they call it straight forwardly "Jewish Privilege"?

Reparation are an euphemism for tribute/payments a capitulating party has to pay to their enemies. By that they'd say that Jews were a belligerent faction during world war two. Given that fact, their deportation, internment and special treatment would have been legal, in the sense that a country is to deal with members of enemy nations. So which one is it. Bear in mind that other people are taxed so those "reparations" can be paid to the perpetually demanding.

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Re: "Second-generation Shoah Survivors are entitled to rights," says Int'l Center for Holocaust Reparations

Postby Lamprecht » 8 months 4 days ago (Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:33 am)

borjastick wrote:I could think of a very good rebuttal

Reparations for African-Americans? Sounds like a great idea to me. Some people have been so busy counting their money that they have forgotten that there are more important things in life.
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Re: "Second-generation Shoah Survivors are entitled to rights," says Int'l Center for Holocaust Reparations

Postby Breker » 8 months 4 days ago (Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:57 am)

Lamprecht wrote:
borjastick wrote:I could think of a very good rebuttal

Reparations for African-Americans? Sounds like a great idea to me. Some people have been so busy counting their money that they have forgotten that there are more important things in life.

Blacks have already received "reparations". Many decades of free everything, set asides just for blacks, "affirmative action", preferential treatment in college admissions & grading, the list is endless.
And for all that we get massive black crime. Black on white crime overwhelms the almost statistically insignificant white on black crime.
And whites, while committing much less crime, are shot by police at a much higher rate than blacks,
The Color of Crime: https://www.amren.com/the-color-of-crime/
Who owes who?
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Re: "Second-generation Shoah Survivors are entitled to rights," says Int'l Center for Holocaust Reparations

Postby Lamprecht » 8 months 3 days ago (Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:36 am)

Breker wrote:Blacks have already received "reparations".

That is an easy argument to make. But how many television news anchors will make that argument publicly? If bear sh*ts in the woods and nobody sees it, did it happen? :lol:

BET founder Robert Johnson calls for $14 trillion of reparations for slavery
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Who owes who?

A better question is, who will pay up? The billionaires will probably pay up, not a big dent in their pockets.
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Postby Breker » 8 months 3 days ago (Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:35 pm)

Lamprecht wrote:
Breker wrote:Blacks have already received "reparations".

That is an easy argument to make. But how many television news anchors will make that argument publicly? If bear sh*ts in the woods and nobody sees it, did it happen? :lol:

Who owes who?

A better question is, who will pay up? The billionaires will probably pay up, not a big dent in their pockets.
TV anchors or no, everyone knows that it is blacks that are the 'privileged' ones.
In fact, the average black family on welfare receives more than the middle class in Latin America that actually work.
Reparations' for those who were never slaves from those who never had slaves. LOL

The Scapegoat for Strife in the Black Community, By Thomas Sowell:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/07/ ... lfare-did/
excerpts:
"Today the moral horror of slavery is so widely condemned that it is hard to realize that there were thousands of years when slavery was practiced around the world by people of virtually every race. Even the leading moral and religious thinkers in different societies accepted slavery as just a fact of life."
"Neither Africans, Asians, Polynesians, nor the indigenous peoples of the Western Hemisphere saw anything wrong with slavery, even after small segments of British and American societies began to condemn slavery as morally wrong in the 18th century."
"What was special about America was not that it had slavery, which existed all over the world, but that Americans were among the very few peoples who began to question the morality of holding human beings in bondage. That was not yet a majority view among Americans in the 18th century, but it was not even a serious minority view in non-Western societies at that time."

Jewish Dominance Of The African Slave Trade:
https://christiansfortruth.com/jewish-d ... ave-trade/

Professor Tony Martin – The Jewish Slave Trade of Africans

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Postby Lamprecht » 8 months 3 days ago (Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:47 pm)

The Swiss fell for that before. Swiss banks were accused of keeping Jewish money in their accounts before WWII, and then it was alleged that some Jews died before they could reclaim this wealth. Various "Holocaust survivor" organizations and their friends in the media were complaining that the money should be turned over to them so they could redistribute it to "Holocaust survivors."

The Swiss said that if some of the dormant accounts belonged to Jews, their heirs could follow the same process for non-Jewish dormant accounts: Prove to be the legitimate heirs to the money and they will fork it over. After all, it was likely only a few million dollars.

The Clinton government in the USA began applying pressure to the Swiss, threatening trade sanctions. Senator Alphonse D'Amato from New York was a leader in this push. The Swiss ended up paying over $1 billion to "Holocaust survivors" because of their insolence. Lesson learned I guess.

Breker raises an interesting point. If White Americans had to pay slavery reparations to Blacks, would Jews also have to pay? :o

For the democrat party, the consensus is not yet "Yes" or "no" on reparations, it is "study it" - I wonder what that means? :roll:

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Re: "Second-generation Shoah Survivors are entitled to rights," says Int'l Center for Holocaust Reparations

Postby HMSendeavour » 8 months 3 days ago (Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:03 pm)

See Ryan Faulks "Fiscal Impact by Race".

https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2020/03/19/fiscal-impact-by-race-in-2018/



In reality, blacks and other non-whites, owe whites trillions in reparations. Whites owe nothing to anybody.
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Postby Sannhet » 8 months 3 days ago (Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:16 am)

Hektor wrote:Reparation are an euphemism for tribute/payments a capitulating party has to pay to their enemies.
By that they'd say that Jews were a belligerent faction during world war two. Given that fact, their deportation, internment and special treatment would have been legal, in the sense that a country is to deal with members of enemy nations. So which one is it.

This is an excellent point.

War-associated reparations payments and the ancient concept of Tribute are not fundamentally different. Winners never pay reparations, even in cases when they morally perhaps should.

We're still not quite there, but I presume in the long-term this will be considered obvious, on what Holocaust payments were.

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Postby slob » 8 months 3 days ago (Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:05 am)

6 million is a handy figure, when you have been planning to screw and extort the whole world for decades??
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Re: "Second-generation Shoah Survivors are entitled to rights," says Int'l Center for Holocaust Reparations

Postby Sannhet » 8 months 3 days ago (Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:40 am)

slob wrote:ISRAEL ZANGWILL [1864-1926] (from a 1923 lecture in the USA):

Mussolini has demanded of Greece fifty million lire as compensation for a few murdered Italians. If we had the power to impose blood-money for our murdered, the Jewish National Treasury would be so replete that the financing of Palestine would become child's play


Zangwill was hailed by his obituary writer at the Jewish Telegraphic Agency (see pdf of how it appeared in the NYC Jewish Daily Bulletin, Aug. 3, 1926) as follows:
The greatest literary genius of English speaking Jewry after Disraeli, author of “The Children of the Ghetto” indefatigable leader and spokesman in modern Jewry’s efforts to alleviate the sufferings of the Jewish ghettos in East European countries, Zionist and founder of the Jewish Territorial Organization
He was a native of England:
Israel Zangwill, the son of Moses Zangwill, a Russian Jewish refugee who fled to England from his native country to escape a death sentence, was born on February 14, 1864, in London.

"To escape a death sentence." These themes/memes were clearly heavy on many minds long before the rise of Hitler.

There need not have been anything like a conspiracy to "fake the Holocaust," which is a strawman position used by anti-Revisionists. There need only be a vast meeting of the minds of people of particular times and places with particular preoccupations interacting with the geopolitical shock of the 1939-45 series of wars and world-rearrangement and the black propaganda useful to oil the wheels of change in that process.

Even ideas like that one the Zionist writer and lecturer Zangwill floated in 1923, which he clearly is saying ironically, became effectively unironic reality just 25 years later, and amazingly remain so in our time, a century later.

Second-Generation Holocaust Survivor Reparations to specific individuals may or may not become solidified in concept and in practice, but it is sure that the payment mechanism, to Israel and other Jewish causes, will continue.


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