HMSendeavour wrote:Just because you don't think the Jews were 'held accountable' doesn't mean Hitler didn't think so. You cannot impugn your ideas onto him, and claim that because what you think makes sense to you is 'true' then that must mean the document is suspicious or fake.
Of course it is possible Hitler was misinformed about the generous treatment of the Jews in German custody. Or perhaps was suffering from a mental breakdown that strained his sanity. In that case of course the document could be authentic, but I don't think this is likely. Leadership was well informed and occupied with these matters, as Goebbels diary attests. Or would you call someone like me, who has gotten basically everything they know off the internet, better informed than the people actually involved in these events? I don't think so.
"I'm not seeing it" or "it's my opinion that..." is not a substitute for evidence. It certainly wouldn't hold up under any scrutiny, because of the circular nature of your reasoning which is essentially "I disagree with this" or "this doesn't make sense to me, and the interpretation I have, therefore this is evidence of fabrication". You applied the same logic to the Goebbels diary in substitution for any actual proof.
I am invalidating these documents based on their contents, which make no sense, clearly violating physical and natural law as well as the historical record. If there was document signed by Hitler saying he had sent Germans into outer space to colonize Mars, would you say, 'hold on, we must wait for actual evidence of fabrication'?
Do you doubt the authenticity of the Posen speech, which exists not only as text but as an aural recording? It can easily be dismissed based on the physical impossibility of the textual claims. I have repeatedly demonstrated that the generous treatment of Jews (a historical FACT) seems to contradict the nature of some of these documents, as well as given other textually based reasons for doubting them.
It seems plausible. The references in his testament to the death of Aryans, and holding the Jews responsible for the war they started seems to align with the sentiments in these speeches.
In regard to Hitler's speeches I believe 2 things are true.
Some of his language is definitely "overwrought", but it was politically expedient for him to be overly harsh with his statements about the Jews. Imagine if you were a German citizen, with knowledge of the terrible crimes being committed against you, your family and friends, by this vicious and hostile people. Would you be out for revenge or at least justice? Governments frequently scapegoat and malign their enemies for short term political purposes. In this case, all their complaints also happened to be true.
The other thing about Hitler's speeches is that he pretty much only talks about the disappearance/annihilation of the Jews from Europe. Never that the Jews were going to be killed or even bodily harmed, but that that their power over Europe was going to be destroyed and they would be physically moved out as well. The problem with tying this to Hitler's "testament" is that post-war the Jews were definitely going to be able to move back into Europe, so this "punishment" really doesn't apply, going forward. Any intelligent observer at the time could well predict that in the post-Hitler/NS Germany world, the Jews would be able to rise to higher than ever before above their host nations, particularly now that they had the perfect "victim card". We all know the atrocity propaganda that was in full force by 1945, Goebbels commented frequently, and they used it effectively, then and now. So yes, I think it's strange to see Hitler all but gloating here about the justice the Jews had received. It is plain to see that they received no justice, that if anything the Germans treated them far better than they deserved.