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Arresting Revisionists Through the Back Door of "White Supremacism"

Postby Hannover » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sat May 01, 2021 1:10 am)

The US FBI is now claiming that largely undefined "white supremacism" is the no. 1 terrorist threat.

And 'Holocaust' Revisionists / "holocaust deniers" are now said to be part of that claimed "white supremacist movement".

Ergo, they will come after Revisionists via charges of "white supremacy".

Will The US Supreme Court intervene?

Thoughts, opinions requested.

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FBI memo says white supremacists, racist terrorists are now the greatest domestic violence threat
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/11 ... at-933137/

Biden Justice Department Weighing Domestic Terrorism Law to Target ‘White Supremacists’
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/0 ... remacists/

Rise in Anti-Semitism, White Supremacy Exacerbated by Pandemic, Secretary-General Warns at Holocaust Remembrance Service, Calling for End to Attacks on Truth
https://www.un.org/press/en/2021/sgsm20553.doc.htm
"Today, Holocaust denial, distortion and minimization are resurgent. In Europe, the United States and elsewhere, white supremacists are organizing and recruiting across borders, flaunting the symbols and tropes of the Nazis and their murderous ambitions. We have seen shocking examples in this nation’s capital in recent days."

Holocaust-denying neo-Nazis among the Trump supporters who stormed US Capitol
White supremacists join Washington rampage, with EXPERTS saying the violence was stoked by far-right conspiracy theories like QAnon

https://www.timesofisrael.com/holocaust ... s-capitol/
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Re: Arresting Revisionists Through the Back Door of "White Supremacism"

Postby Lamprecht » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sat May 01, 2021 3:14 am)

"White Supremacists," they say?
So Whites that want to live in a multiracial society but rule over the other races? In other words, those ideologically in direct opposition to separatism/nationalism (the "White racists" that want their own living spaces and self-government)...

Surprisingly there is no mention of the fact that "Holocaust denial" is found all over the world, not just among Whites/Europeans. See:

The rapid proliferation of Holocaust skepticism across the world
viewtopic.php?t=12194

Also [un]surprisingly, there is no mention of the very real and influential racial supremacist movement/cult/ideology known as "Judaism". From:
Judaism is Racism! viewtopic.php?t=8387
The most fundamental theme of the Jewish religion is that the Jews have been chosen by their tribal god, Yahweh, to own and rule the earth. One can see a quite explicit statement of this theme in the book of the Jewish "prophet" Isaiah. In the 60th and 61st chapters of Isaiah, the "prophet" raves that eventually all the wealth of the Gentiles shall be delivered to the Jews, that the Jews shall "suck the milk of the Gentiles" (60:16) and "eat the wealth of the Gentiles," (61:6) while the Gentiles all become servants of the Jews, or to use Isaiah's quaint mode of expression, the Gentiles shall "stand and feed your flocks" and "be your plowmen and your vinedressers." (61:5)
Sephardi leader Yosef: Non-Jews exist to serve Jews
"Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel...Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat...Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant. That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew."

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Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson (April 18, 1902 - June 12, 1994) also known as The Lubavitcher Rebbe, or simply as The Rebbe, was an American Orthodox Jewish rabbi born in Russia, and the last rebbe of the Lubavitcher Hasidic dynasty. As the hereditary leader of the Chabad movement, he has been called "The Most Influential Rabbi" in modern history... Schneerson explains the difference between Jews and non-Jews:

"As has been explained, an embryo is called a human being, because it has both body and soul. Thus, the difference between a Jewish and a non-Jewish embryo can be understood. There is also a difference in bodies. The body of a Jewish embryo is on a higher level than is the body of a non-Jew. This is expressed in the phrase 'let us differentiate' about the body of a non-Jew, which is a totally different kind. The same difference exists in regard to the soul: the soul of a Jewish embryo is different than the soul of a non-Jewish embryo. We therefore ask: Why should a non-Jew be punished if he kills even a non-Jewish embryo while a Jew should not be punished even if he kills a Jewish embryo? The answer can be understood by [considering] the general difference between Jews and non-Jews: A Jew was not created as a means for some [other] purpose; he himself is the purpose, since the substance of all [divine] emanations was created only to serve the Jews." 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth' [Genesis 1:1] means that [the heavens and the earth] were created for the sake of the Jews, who are called the 'beginning.' This means everything, all developments, all discoveries, the creation, including the 'heavens and the earth - are vanity compared to the Jews. The important things are the Jews, because they do not exist for any [other] aim; they themselves are [the divine] aim."

Schneerson explaining why non-Jews were created:

"Following from what has already been said, it can be understood why a non-Jew should be punished by death if he kills an embryo and why a Jew should not be punished by death. The difference between the embryo and a [baby that was] born is that the embryo is not a self-contained reality but rather is subsidiary; either it is subsidiary to its mother or to the reality created after birth when the [divine] purpose of its creation is then fulfilled. In its present state the purpose is still absent. A non-Jew's entire reality is only vanity. It is written, 'And the strangers shall stand and feed your flocks' [Isaiah 61:5]. The entire creation [of a non-Jew] exists only for the sake of the Jews. Because of this a non-Jew should be punished with death if he kills an embryo, while a Jew, whose existence is most important, should not be punished with death because of something subsidiary. We should not destroy an important thing for the sake of something subsidiary. It is true that there is a prohibition against [hurting] an embryo, because it is something that will be born in the future and in a hidden form already exists. The death penalty should be implicated only when visible matters are affected; as previously noted, the embryo is merely of subsidiary importance."

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Media bias, control, & censorship / quotes of note viewtopic.php?t=605
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Re: Arresting Revisionists Through the Back Door of "White Supremacism"

Postby stinky » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sat May 01, 2021 7:10 am)

Two days ago, Mike Burgess, the head of Australia's domestic intelligence agency ASIO stated;
"We have credible intelligence that individuals and small groups have the capable intent and we, on that basis, assess that there is likely to be a terrorist attack sometime in the next 12 months as we've seen in the last 12 months."

"Given the growth we've seen in nationalist and racist violent extremism we anticipate there will be a terrorist attack in this country in the next 12 months."
"It can come from either ideology and therefore for me doesn't really matter, because they're both capable of conducting acts of violence and that's where we focus."

Burgess hedged, identifying 'nationalist & racist violent extremists', and Islamic extremists, as the likely cause of a terrorist attack in Australia.
To be clear, Burgess made sure to identify 'white supremacy' in relation to 'nationalist extremists'.

It's almost as if there is coordination of the claimed terrorism threats and the designated suspects.
As if there is some sort of agenda. :roll:

Australians should take warnings of such threats seriously.
ASIO are a significant (false flag) domestic terrorism threat.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-29/ ... /100103546
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Re: Arresting Revisionists Through the Back Door of "White Supremacism"

Postby Hektor » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sat May 01, 2021 8:38 am)

"White Supremacism" is another weasel word. Could be any ethnically White person that doesn't bow to any of the forms of political correctness.
Sure that would apply to many Revisionists. That government agencies picked this up and seriously use it, is rather alarming.

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Re: Arresting Revisionists

Postby Merlin300 » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sat May 01, 2021 11:38 am)

First thank you for starting this thread. Too Bad it is such a relevant subject.


The big picture is that the Left and the conservative Right always used smear tactics against the National Socialists.
World War II greatly exacerbated this tendency and made it part of governmental policy

Allied governments had large propaganda organizations which cranked out anti-German and anti-National Socialist hate stories, all along the lines, "Germany wants to conquer the World and kill everyone who is not a blond, blue-eyed German."

As an aside, the propaganda followed "country lines" meaning the creators of the propaganda made up stories pursuant to their own visions of what
they would expect of the Germans.

The Soviets portrayed the National Socialists as "Capitalists on Steroids," literally working their slave to death, utilizing the bodies for fertilizer or soap, while in the background factory like chimneys spewed the smoke of cremated bodies.

The French portrayed the Germans as crafty but murderous.
All these people were unaware of the fate awaiting them. They were merely upset at being separated, but they did not know that they were going to their death. To render their welcome more pleasant at this time-June-July 1944-an orchestra composed of internees, all young and pretty girls dressed in little white blouses and navy blue skirts, played during the selection, at the arrival of the trains, gay tunes such as "The Merry Widow," the "Barcarolle" from "The Tales of Hoffman," and so forth. They were then informed that this was a labor camp and since they were not brought into the camp they saw only the small platform surrounded by flowering plants. Naturally, they could not realize what was in store for them. Those selected for the gas chamber, that is, the old people, mothers, and children, were escorted to a red-brick building.. Eye witness Testimony of MME. VAILLANT-COUTURIER. Nuremberg Trial Proceedings Vol. 6. FORTY-FOURTH DAY Monday, 28 January 1946
Morning Session

The British focused on personalities, Hitler was the raving "carpet biter," Goering was the fat, be-medaled addict, Goebbels, the screaming
monkey. etc.

All these various threads were presented at the Nuremberg Tribunal as the justification for the British and French violating the Locarno Treaty and starting the War over Danzig, and terror bombing civilians, etc. In short, Allied atrocity propaganda was the keystone of post-War Europe.
Germany was to be kept groveling but useful in the new ideological battle with the Soviets.

The Nuremberg Tribunal crystalized these atrocity tales into the official history: National Socialists Were by nature and ideology Haters and German Supremacists dangerous to everyone decent in the World.

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Re: Arresting Revisionists

Postby Hektor » 1 month 1 week ago (Sat May 01, 2021 5:38 pm)

Merlin300 wrote:First thank you for starting this thread. Too Bad it is such a relevant subject.
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The Nuremberg Tribunal crystalized these atrocity tales into the official history: National Socialists Were by nature and ideology Haters and German Supremacists dangerous to everyone decent in the World.


True they had their stereotypes and prejudices worked into atrocity propaganda.

But how the Nuremberg Tribunal had atrocity tales into history is rather odd. Sure some tales were being told (and in case of the Hoess testimony, this was rather a manufactured tale being told there). On the other hand the accused quite credibly testified that they had no knowledge of any 'extermination program' targeting Jews... Deportation, physical removal, compulsory labour, internment, etc. Yes, but no killing of Jews for being of Jewish ancestry. The trial had several issues and classes of accused being obfuscated any way. Purpose was clearly political and not judicial. I don't get how people objectively would come to the conclusion that it actually proved the point of what posed as prosecution, though.

What's tried at the moment is persecution via extrapolation:
* They take some cases were violent offenders were said to be "White Supremacists". E.g. the Dylann Roof case.
* They then conclude that any White Advocacy is a "danger to society" (It probably is to some people's agendas, but that isn't mentioned).
* Extrapolating this further they'll at some point will arrive at "Holocaust Deniers" (Who in their mind "White-wash" the greatest "White Supremacist" of all times) and hence will argue that they need some treatment of some form as well.

As far as the "Holocaust" is concerned, it's easy to grasp back onto those old prejudices and war psychosis in some countries as well. And haven't they been maintained even groomed by the cultural industry for decades as well?

Looking back it becomes apparent that the whole Nazi/Hitler myth was cultivated over decades for some long term reason. I recall that those pushing the Holocaust Idea were often Communists sometimes in coalition with leftist, liberal even religious dupes. They seemed to be really deeply invested in this, which was kind of strange... In the past my guess was distraction from Communist Atrocities, but now it seems to have been even more behind it.

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Re: Arresting Revisionists Through the Back Door of "White Supremacism"

Postby Hannover » 1 month 1 week ago (Sat May 01, 2021 8:40 pm)

Hektor:
Looking back it becomes apparent that the whole Nazi/Hitler myth was cultivated over decades for some long term reason. I recall that those pushing the Holocaust Idea were often Communists sometimes in coalition with leftist, liberal even religious dupes. They seemed to be really deeply invested in this, which was kind of strange... In the past my guess was distraction from Communist Atrocities, but now it seems to have been even more behind it.

"Cultivated" indeed.

Jews have been pushing the '6,000,000 dead Jews' lie since at least 1823, see newspaper records; Click here & scroll down:

https://imgur.com/a/0LFFF

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Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the laughable 'holocaust' storyline is the message.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: Arresting Revisionists Through the Back Door of "White Supremacism"

Postby Lamprecht » 1 month 1 week ago (Sun May 02, 2021 3:46 am)

Hannover wrote:Hektor:
Looking back it becomes apparent that the whole Nazi/Hitler myth was cultivated over decades for some long term reason. I recall that those pushing the Holocaust Idea were often Communists sometimes in coalition with leftist, liberal even religious dupes. They seemed to be really deeply invested in this, which was kind of strange... In the past my guess was distraction from Communist Atrocities, but now it seems to have been even more behind it.

"Cultivated" indeed.

Jews have been pushing the '6,000,000 dead Jews' lie since at least 1823, see newspaper records; Click here & scroll down:

https://imgur.com/a/0LFFF

The religion of Judaism, actual Orthodox Judaism, is obviously racist and outright ridiculous.

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See also: viewtopic.php?p=92801#p92801

Jews were expelled/pogromed/massacred from 1,000 places before Hitler was ever born: viewtopic.php?t=12596

Obviously, it was bound to happen again. Jews have a lot of stereotypes but "stupid" isn't one of them. A Jewish state was in the works for a long time. In the late 1800s, Herzl was talking about a need for a Jewish state as a "Solution to the Jewish question": viewtopic.php?p=93899#p93899

He wasn't the only one talking about that either, Google Books gives pages of examples: https://www.google.com/search?q=solutio ... 00&tbm=bks

Also see:
Landman Document - Zionist Samuel Landman on the Balfour Declaration
viewtopic.php?t=12694
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
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