max wrote:And then of course, the Einsatzgruppen massacres were spread over whole Eastern Europe. A very large area, AFAIK. And the Einsatzgruppen reports usually to do not mention where where massacre were carried out, so it is very difficult, if not impossible, anyway to locate the mass graves sites. And further, isn't there the danger to confuse mass graves of Stalin's butchers with those of Hitler, and vice versa. Who knows exactly if the bones belong to Jews shot by the Nazis or Russians, Poles, etc. shot by the Soviets.
They assigned a body count of 2 million!
If no details are known then how did this body count become accepted history?
max wrote:So what's the point anyway?
It's called truth!
What do you think would happen if a teacher in any American or European school decided to teach that Jews shot 2 million Germans into pits?
max wrote:Fact is they murdered people, right? Partisans, commissars, Jews.
The Soviets were murdering Poles like they were going out of style.
Why don't we just assign a number of let's say 8 million to that, and teach all American school children that during the first occupation commissars directed the mass murder of 8 million Poles.
The Soviets murdered tens of thousands at Katyn didn't they, so what's the point in not teaching that they shot 8 million Poles into pits?
Should we also include a lesson about the true ethnicity of most of these commissars?
We need to teach this to school children, they need to learn this historical 'fact' because it's the right thing to do isn't it?
max wrote:If we know no graves, is the conclusion maybe that the Einsatzgruppen never existed at all?! Utterly absurd.
During the Nuremberg trials the Soviets listed locations, towns & cities.
With today's technology it should be easy to locate graves of this enormity , it's absurd to believe otherwise.
Anyone of logic would most certainly dismiss these as Soviet lies.
Do you have some particular reason for trusting the word of Soviet communists?
max wrote:the mass graves were emptied by the Civilian population after the war, looking for valuables in those graves, etc.
How did grave robbers locate mass graves that investigators cannot?
If this actually took place it, would this not have made it far easier to document these sites?
Grave robbers don't take the corpses with them, do they?
What valuables would they have been looking for being that 'eye witnesses' universally give accounts of the Germans ordering the victims to undress before being shot?
Were they digging them up for hair to make mattresses?