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Hilberg's strange description of the gassing process

Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 4 years ago (Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:18 am)

Hilberg had studied the holocaust for around 40 years when this was written. Here's his description of the gassing process. It sounds similar to the description in the 70's show World at War, in episode 20, but doesn't appear so similar to what I've heard about the recent BBC series on Auschwitz shown in England and the US. Notice that there's no "kula columns." Notice that the gas isn't even poured through the roof, rather through a "glass shutter" that is "over the lattice."

Strangely a ceremonial Red Cross car drives up with the cans of gas. It couldn't have been stored in an adjacent shed I guess. Maybe that's how you include the Yiddish penchant for irony (often seen on the holocaust scene): the irony of a Red Cross vehicle delivering death gas! Did that car just travel back and forth all day?

When the Auschwitz victims filed into the gas chamber, they discovered that the imitation showers did not work. Outside, a central switch was pulled to turn off the lights, and a Red Cross car drove up with the Zyklon. An SS man, wearing a gas mask fitted with a special filter, lifted the glass shutter over the lattice and emptied one can after another into the gas chamber. Although the lethal dose was one miligram per kilogram of body weight and the effect was supposed to be rapid, dampness could retard the speed with which the gas was spreading. Untersturmfuhrer Grabner, political officer of the camp, stood ready with stopwatch in hand. As the first pellets sublimated on the floor of the chamber, the victims began to scream. To escape from the rising gas, the stronger knocked down the weaker, stepping on prostrate victims in order to prolong their own lives by reaching gas-free layers of air. The agony lasted for about two minutes, and as the shrieking subsided, the dying people slumped over. Within fifteen minutes (sometimes five), everyone in the gas chamber was dead.
The gas was now allowed to escape and after about half an hour the door was opened. The bodies were found in tower-like heaps, some in sitting or half-sitting positions, children and older people at the bottom. Where the gas had been introduced, there was an empty area from which the victims had backed away, and pressed against the door were the bodies of men who in terror had tried to break out. The corpses were pink in color, with green spots. Some had foam on the lips, others bled through the nose. Excrement and urine covered some of the bodies and in some pregnant women the birth process had started. The Jewish work parties (Sonderkommandos), wearning gas masks, dragged out the bodies near the door to clear a path and hosed down the dead, at the same time soaking the pockets of poison gas remaining between the bodies. Then the Sonderkommandos had to pry the corpses apart.
Raul Hilberg. The Destruction of the European Jews. pg. 975-976. Holmes and Meier. 1985


I don't know much about gas masks. Hilberg mentions one with a special filter. Is that something where the gas is neutralized. Or do gas masks usually have some kind of compressed air that is released?

And of course that Hydrogen Cyanide (zyklon B) wouldn't sublimate so fast unless it was above 79 degrees fahrenheit (it's boiling point) is something extensively discussed on other threads.

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Postby Scott » 1 decade 4 years ago (Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:10 am)

Carto's Cutlass Supreme wrote:I don't know much about gas masks. Hilberg mentions one with a special filter. Is that something where the gas is neutralized. Or do gas masks usually have some kind of compressed air that is released?

Technically a gas mask is really just a protective filter with mask. A true gas mask like firemen wear has an oxygen bottle.

In this case HCN can be protected against with a type J filter if the concentration is not too high. This was standard equipment for fumigators as well as kits to detect lingering gas concentrations.

Here's an article that may be of interest:

"The 'Gas Testers' of Auschwitz," by Carlo Mattogno.

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Postby TMoran » 1 decade 4 years ago (Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:12 am)

Extract from Hilberg's quote:
Excrement and urine covered some of the bodies and in some pregnant women the birth process had started.



Ah yes. Having once done a short treatment in the past on what the scene would have been like in the main hall of Cremas II and III according to Holocaust 'facts' I was thinking over the last couple of weeks about doing it again but with this new 'fact' brought to light a quick recap.

According to 'The Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp' by Berenbaum and Gutman they tell us new arrivals would be ushered through the main surface hall that held the ovens of the two cremas. According to other 'facts', and attested to by Berenbaum and Gutman themselves, bodies were piled high all along the walls awaiting to be put into the ovens since the rate of gassing was always way ahead of the capability to cremate. That would mean, with Berenbaum and Gutman confirming, the new arrivals would have been ushered along past this grizzly scene.

How grizzly would it be according to all the 'facts'?

Bodies piled high to 6 and 7 feet. Men, women, children and babies. Blood, excrement and urine clinging to intertwined masses of bodies. Jaws ripped away from the skulls as the result of recovering gold teeth. Bellies cut open and entails hanging out from the search for swallowed gold and diamonds. And with this detail the heads of babies just starting to emerge from the wombs of women.


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