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Who painted that Dresden picture?

Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:54 am)

Did they really strafe with bullets? I'll bet the media doesn't say a peep tomorrow. What a terrible thing we did.

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Postby Haldan » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:44 am)

I think it was painted by Herbert Smagon, not 100% sure.

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Yep, that's him. You can view more of his work at www.opfergang.de

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Postby ClaudiaRothenbach » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:09 am)

The machine gun attacks against the survivors of the bombings and the fire storm are not proven. Quite a few witnesses talk about machine gun attacks but we know about the value of testimonies.

In Jan 1945 the democrats still had to fly quite a long way to Dresden and it seems unpropable that these small airplanes could fly such a long way.

Even worse is that the second attack took place only about 2 or 3 hours after the first. With this second attack the "democrats" wanted to kill as many rescue people as possible (fire fighters, red cross personell etc.).

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Postby Richard Perle » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:04 am)

I'm sorry but that painting is as bad as any the holocaust industry puts out. I was shocked to see it up here where drawings and paintings by 'survivers' are ridiculed so often.

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Postby Haldan » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:48 am)

Maybe we all should focus on the alleged “Jewish Holocaust” instead.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:54 am)

The machine gun attacks against the survivors of the bombings and the fire storm are not proven. Quite a few witnesses talk about machine gun attacks but we know about the value of testimonies.

Yes, but just knowing that the 'Allies' were so cruel as to massacre the Dresdeners makes it completely believable that they would also straf. I mean afterall, the entire matter was an attack upon civilians to begin with. This strafings do not defy laws of science as do the 'testimonies' of the nutball judeo-supremacists about the alleged absurd 'gas chambers', laughable alleged cremation rates and methods, etc.

The 'holocau$t' Industry is doing their utmost to justify the attack and rationalize the horror they inflcted. Dresden is but one example of the genocide inflicted upon Germans, just because they were German.

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Postby Richard Perle » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:28 pm)

I find it unlikely that the allied aircraft were even low enough to strafe, let alone would they be inclined to.

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Postby Haldan » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:13 pm)

Anyway, they were atleast inclined to bomb each and everyone of our magnificent cities into smithereens so that we could have our 'Democracy'.

We really needed that.

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Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:37 pm)

I'm glad that the webmaster is putting those paintings on the main page, and had a countdown to the day.

You could strafe with a bomber. There was no resistance, so a bomber could fly low.

Apparently all the fire created from the bombs created this wind suction so that were you to flee you'd have to go against hurricane-like winds.

One of the biggest photos that ever got me, was one showing a family who had gone into an air raid shelter, and that shelter just got increasingly hot, and became as hot as an oven, and they died.

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Postby ClaudiaRothenbach » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:37 pm)

It is true that the allies (the "democrats") machinegunned women on the fields and children on their way to school, red cross vehicles and other non combattants. This is proven and we have the graves.

Hannover, you are right: it is quite unimportant whether we have these kind of attacks in Dresden too - the fire storm is crime enough.

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Postby Richard Perle » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:14 pm)

Maybe it is just my having grown up in England with the relentless demonisation of Germans, but isn't Germany - even without the Holocaust - guilty of plenty of crimes against civilians during the war?

I am interested in non-Holocaust revisionist topics like this and I'd like to learn more. Perhaps another forum could be made for these topics.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:35 pm)

R. Perle:
... but isn't Germany - even without the Holocaust - guilty of plenty of crimes against civilians during the war?

Compared to the Allies, the Germans were Boy Scouts and there is nothing that can refute that. That is one of the main reasons that the Allies bought into the judeo-supremacist lies about 'gas chambers' etc. to distract from the Allied genocidal atrocities.

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Postby Scott » 1 decade 4 years ago (Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:31 am)

Free-ranging fighters like P-51s could have strafed but it is unlikely that they did so at Dresden. Later in the war they did because there was no Luftwaffe to go after. Usually the P-51 was used as an air-superiority fighter to neutralize fighter defenses, and to escort bombers at high altitude because of its long range. Unlike the P-47, which had far less range but was more robust with an air-cooled engine, the P-51 was seldom used in ground-support roles until the end of the war, and then later during the Korean war because of the shortage of jets. The P-51 was not well suited for ground-support because of its liquid-cooled engine.

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Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 4 years ago (Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:58 am)

Claudia wrote
Hannover, you are right: it is quite unimportant whether we have these kind of attacks in Dresden too - the fire storm is crime enough.


Is that what happened at Dresden? They dropped so many bombs in a concentrated area that it had a "firestorm" effect? A huge fire combined with hurricane winds that the fire sucks into it, and this makes it so everyone is trapped?

Were the bombs incendiary bombs or simply bombs that just explode? Did the fire part result from flammable stuff in the bombs or things on the ground catching fire?

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Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 4 years ago (Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:54 am)

Thanks for the link Haldan. And also here:
http://www.art-smagon.com/art002.htm


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