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Armenian Holocaust denial - OK - Los Angeles Times

Postby TMoran » 1 decade 4 years ago (Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:51 am)

An extremely threatening turn of events.

Los Angeles Times, April 26, 2005

Letters to the Editor

Armenian Genocide Debate Persists

Letter by Anil Bora Inan
Vice Consul Consulate General

of the Republic of Turkey
Los Angeles

"Armenian Genocide Debate ...? Meaning, some "debate"?

After going on about it being a shame Armenians lost lives and how Turks lost lives and how disease and famine were a factor in the deaths he gets around to saying -

Armenian claims of genocide, however, have never been historically or legally substantiated which leaves one to question the ulterior motives of those advancing these allegations.

Following that extraordinary statement he ends up telling the reader how the Turks have opened up their archives to researchers and a proposal by Turkish government officials for an assembly between the Armenians and Turks to investigate the claims and to make it open to international auspices.

Whoa, is that an important turn of events? A letter selected and published by the Los Angeles Times denying the alleged mass extermination of Armenians? It's called a - precedence.

If the Germans don't want to get involved in something like that then the United States and Catholic Church should demand such a process since they are also played out as primary responsible parties in the Jewish Holocaust story.

Some certain folk must have shivered when they read that in the Los Angeles Times.

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Postby israelite » 1 decade 4 years ago (Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:44 am)

One thing that should be mentioned concerning the massacre of the Armenians is that it was done under the supervision of a government that was under the control of the Young Turks who had led the revolution of 1908.

These Young Turks were known as Donmeh Muslims. In reality Donmeh Muslims were Jews who had publically embraced Islam but privately still practised Judaism. These Young Turks came mainly from Salonika,
now Thessasalonika in Greece, which at the time was the centre of Jewish population in Turkey.

Many believe that Attaturk himself was of Jewish descent. Looking at what he did to hinder Islam in Turkey suggests some truth in this belief.

Possibly this is why there is a reluctance to include the Armenian massacre in the exhibits at the holocaust museum in Washington.

BTW the prophet of Islam, Mohammed, had prophecised that the city of Constantinople, now Istanbul, would fall to 70,000 sons of Isaac six years before the Great War.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:35 pm)

In reality Donmeh Muslims were Jews who had publically embraced Islam but privately still practised Judaism.

That has major implications. Israelite, do you have confirmation of that claim?

And, just like the claims of the 'holocau$t' racket, the claims made by Armenians must be scrutinized via science, logic, documentation, and cool rational methodology.

- Hannover
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 4 years ago (Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:59 pm)

Hi TMoran, that's really interesting. And a "precedence" like you said.

Hi Israelite,

I don't agree with your thesis. I didn't know the young Turks were called Muslims. Rather, weren't they agnostics or atheists, and outlawed the wearing of the Fez and other Islamic Ottomon traditions?

Can you give even one reference for anything you said?

Then you mention that there is conspiratorial reason that they weren't included in the US Holocaust Memorial Museum. Rather, I think it's what Finkelstein said: the Jews wanted all the victimization to themselves.

Your assertion parallels the NKVD Jews and the Russians/Ukrainians in the 30's. But it's my view that applying the same thing to the Turks and Armenians goes way too far.

Having said that though, one idea where your assertion is supported is in the concept of the "crypto Jew" --A concept well documented in Kevin MacDonald's Culture of Critique. These Jews can find themselves in to the top positions of a government.

The last US Presidential election: two democratic candidates, John Kerry and Wesley Clarke, both who discovered during the campaign (or barely knew) that they were part Jewish. That's a form of crypto Jew because MacDonald points out that sometimes the people aren't even conscious of their own crypto-Jewry. Sounds crazy but MacDonald points out that hard core Stalinists have immigrated to Israel and become observant Jews.

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Postby israelite » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun May 01, 2005 4:34 pm)

All you need to now can be found at;


Also ceck out Pidcock's book for an interesting exchange between Sir Gerard Lowther and Sir Charles Harding.

Also an interesting article at;

Though my eyes glazed over slightly when they started on about extra terrestials.

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