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Reparations money

Postby Karl S » 1 decade 5 years ago (Tue May 17, 2005 6:57 am)

On the front page of Air Photo Evidence there is a counter that says:

The amount of reparations money transferred to Israel from Germany
and lifetime pensions paid to "survivors" around the world.

And the current amount is about US $40,091,758,501 and as source they give are located at

Now, this is an old article. Does anyone here know if the sum is correct today?

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Postby Erik D. Schmid » 1 decade 5 years ago (Wed May 18, 2005 8:14 pm)

This site might shed some light on your question:

If Americans Knew

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Postby Karl S » 1 decade 5 years ago (Sat May 21, 2005 12:52 pm)

Erik D. Schmid wrote:This site might shed some light on your question:

If Americans Knew

That was a new one. Maybe some site creates a counter that shows how much money they extort from European insurance companies, banks, and other companies.

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Postby Karl S » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun May 29, 2005 2:47 pm)

Our friends have managed to get some more money out of Germany. Why are these stupid Germans still paying? Read about the last one:

Germany to pay €9m more to Holocaust survivors
In talks with the Claims Conference, Germany also agreed to include survivors from labor camps in Hungary, Tunisia, Morocco, and Algeria.
Globes correspondent
19 May 05 15:53

The German government has agreed to provide €9 million for homecare for Holocaust survivors around the world, following negotiations with the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany (Claims Conference). This is the second year that the Claims Conference has brought up this issue in talks with Germany, following last year’s government agreement to provide €6 million.

With the health needs of aging Holocaust survivors becoming increasingly urgent, the Claims Conference was pressing Germany to provide funds. The funds from last year’s agreement were allocated by the Claims Conference to 43 agencies assisting needy Jewish victims of Nazism in 17 countries.

Also during Claims Conference talks, the German government agreed to include survivors incarcerated for at least six months in certain labor camps in Hungary, Tunisia, Morocco, and Algeria in the Article 2 Fund and Central and Eastern European Fund (CEEF) pension programs, provided they meet the other German-mandated eligibility criteria.

The negotiations also led to an increase in the amount paid to recipients of payments from the Central and Eastern European Fund, who live in countries that have joined the European Union, from €135 (approximately $175) per month to €175 (approximately $228) from January 1, 2006.

CEEF payments are less than payments from the Article 2 Fund, and the Claims Conference has been pressing the issue of increasing the amounts.

The cost of living in Eastern Europe, especially in countries that joined the European Union, has increased dramatically in recent years, leaving many elderly survivors without resources to pay for adequate medicine, food, and housing. Holocaust survivors living in Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia, Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia will benefit.

Furthermore, it was agreed that there will be certain arrangements put in place to improve the speed of processing claims filed by the Claims Conference under the Property Restitution Law.

The Claims Conference will continue to negotiate with Germany for inclusion of Holocaust survivors in these compensation programs who were in forced military labor battalions and in concentration camps not currently recognized as such by Germany; were subjected to persecution for periods of time less than currently stipulated and were confined in open ghettos; and have income in excess of the current income ceiling (for the Article 2 Fund).

In addition, the Claims Conference is pressing the issue of applicants to the Hardship Fund who had not been able to meet eligibility criteria at the time of application and wish to re-apply for payment, and the establishment of a Hardship Fund for residents of Eastern Europe who did not emigrate to the West like current recipients of payments from the Hardship Fund.

The Claims Conference delegation was chaired by Israel Singer, president; and was composed of Noach Flug, chairman of the Organization of Holocaust Survivors in Israel; Roman Kent, chairman of the American Gathering of Jewish Holocaust Survivors; Ben Helfgott, of the Board of Deputies of British Jews; Gideon Taylor, Moshe Jahoda, Saul Kagan, Karen Heilig and additional staff of the Claims Conference. The German ministry of finance delegation was led by State Secretary Karl Diller.

The Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany (Claims Conference) represents world Jewry in negotiating for compensation and restitution for victims of Nazi persecution and their heirs. The Claims Conference administers compensation funds, recovers unclaimed Jewish property, and allocates funds to institutions that provide social welfare services to Holocaust survivors and preserve the memory and lessons of the Shoah.

Published by Globes [online], Israel business news - - on Thursday, May 19, 2005

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Postby Juan » 1 decade 4 years ago (Mon May 30, 2005 12:55 pm)

Because if Germany doesn't pay, you know what happens.

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Postby Radar » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue May 31, 2005 9:11 am)

The Claims Conference says they represent "world Jewry" according to the report. I wonder who appointed them? They also say the remaining survivors [how many? not mentioned. It undoubtedly depends on how you define "survivor".] are in dire need of medical assitance, hence the need to once again shake the German money tree.

But wait a minute! The shakedown of the Swiss Banks in the New York Federal District Court under Judge Korman was also said to be at least in part because of the needs of those needy survivors. Part was also said to be for Swiss bank account holders but the less said about that the better because it now appears that only a fraction of the $1.25 billion (yes, billion) extorted from the Banks and awarded by the Court can be attributed to unclaimed bank accounts. So there something like $800 million left for the needy which has not been distributed. They are trying to figure out what to do with it as we speak. The Jewish propaganda organizations are hoping to get the lion's share but a nasty food fight has developed.

But, hey, don't these representatives of World Jewry talk to each other and don't the Germans notice? Why doesn't the Claims Conference apply to Judge Korman for a cut of the loot under his control? Better them than AbeFoxman or Simon Weisenthal!

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Postby Breslau » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue May 31, 2005 9:44 am)

Juan wrote:Because if Germany doesn't pay, you know what happens.

We know exactly what happens:




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Postby kk » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue May 31, 2005 10:07 pm)

Kipling's poem "Dane-geld"
may help you understand:

'We never pay any-one Dane-geld
No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that plays it is lost!'

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