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Spielberg's latest - Babi Yar eye-witnesses

Postby theTRUTH » 1 decade 5 years ago (Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:57 pm)

Spielberg is working on either a documentary or docu-drama about Babi Yar. But revisionists have air photos which contradict the official version. The gaul of this man!
http://imdb.com/title/tt0443684/
Survivors tell the story of the Babi Yar massacre from WWII, where some 100,000 people were massacred by German forces….

All the Jews were lined up on the edge of a giant hole. They were executed in small groups, and of course, fell backwards into the pit. Eventually, there were thousands upon thousands of bodies stacked up on top of each other….

(A) Jew who, just like any other Jew residing in Kiev, was taken to Babi Yar with his whole family. They were all shot. He was shot 3 times. Twice in the body, and once in the limb. He was buried under thousands of bodies (some of which were his family's) for 3 days. In the middle of the night, he managed to gather his strength, and dig himself out from under the corpses and flee the massacre.

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Postby Turpitz » 1 decade 5 years ago (Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:01 pm)

Jew who, just like any other Jew residing in Kiev, was taken to Babi Yar with his whole family. They were all shot. He was shot 3 times. Twice in the body, and once in the limb. He was buried under thousands of bodies (some of which were his family's) for 3 days. In the middle of the night, he managed to gather his strength, and dig himself out from under the corpses and flee the massacre.


What, is this supposed to be serious?

I tell you these people are complete headbangers, they have completely lost it mentally.

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Postby theTRUTH » 1 decade 5 years ago (Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:46 pm)

Posts on IMDb about Babi Yar documentary:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0443684/board/nest/16629981

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Postby simon1003 » 1 decade 5 years ago (Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:33 am)

This could turn out to be a good thing for revisionists, the story is easy to disprove and there's no telling which way the Ukrainians themselves will view the movie, especially after the Soviet induced famine of the 20s and 30s.

I'd expect a few revelations coming from the Ukrainian media when this movie gets released.

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Postby gasto » 1 decade 5 years ago (Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:23 pm)

Turpitz wrote:
Jew who, just like any other Jew residing in Kiev, was taken to Babi Yar with his whole family. They were all shot. He was shot 3 times. Twice in the body, and once in the limb. He was buried under thousands of bodies (some of which were his family's) for 3 days. In the middle of the night, he managed to gather his strength, and dig himself out from under the corpses and flee the massacre.


What, is this supposed to be serious?

I tell you these people are complete headbangers, they have completely lost it mentally.


hehe...he sure must have been a strengthy jew, digging out from thousands of bodies!! setting aside the fact that he was wounded...

Spielberg, master of fiction...
If Human Soap rumour was fake, why can´t all the other absurd claims be too??

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 5 years ago (Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:06 pm)

simon1003 said:
This could turn out to be a good thing for revisionists, the story is easy to disprove ...

That's true with 'holocau$t' tales in general, they collapse upon themselves via their absurd nature, lack of evidence, and scientific impossibility. Babi Yar is a classic example.

As I say:
'Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd stories are the message'.
and:
'The 'holocau$t' Industry has met their enemy, it is their own stories'.

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If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Postby Radar » 1 decade 5 years ago (Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:29 pm)

Good, now maybe we can go look for forensic proof at Babi Yar.

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Postby simon1003 » 1 decade 5 years ago (Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:18 pm)

Hannover wrote:simon1003 said:
This could turn out to be a good thing for revisionists, the story is easy to disprove ...

That's true with 'holocau$t' tales in general, they collapse upon themselves via their absurd nature, lack of evidence, and scientific impossibility. Babi Yar is a classic example.

As I say:
'Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd stories are the message'.
and:
'The 'holocau$t' Industry has met their enemy, it is their own stories'.

- Hannover


Yes, but I think that a movie of Babi Yar could be a turning point, in Schindler's List for example, the film although centred mainly around Oskar Schindler is about the holocaust in general, it's about many events.

Small inaccuracies, such as the commandant's house at Plaszow camp actually being at a lower level than the camp itself would not really get noted except by revisionists, the average Joe wouldn't care about a couple of inaccuracies amongst a film that most people would assume is based on a true story.

However, a film about Babi Yar would be different, if it's going to be about one single event (the alleged mass shootings at the ravine) and this can be disproved, then the whole film could be proved to be based on lies, and that would get a lot of adverse publicity for Spielberg and his motives (as well as for the indu$try of course).

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Postby TMoran » 1 decade 5 years ago (Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:10 pm)

the TRUTH refers to -

Posts on IMDb about Babi Yar documentary:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0443684/board/nest/16629981


Checked it out and there's a number of people claiming to be Ukranians and Germans with positive comments. Ah yes, the usual trickery.

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Postby Ajax » 1 decade 5 years ago (Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:21 pm)

Babi Yar is the perfect project for Mr Spielberg - he can use all of the ILM special effects to give the infamous 'geysers of blood' a life of their own...
Scour the surface throughly until it is glistening...

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Postby Laurentz Dahl » 1 decade 4 years ago (Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:27 pm)

Does anyone know if this "documentary" is actually "in production" as stated on the IMDB page:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443684/

It says that it is slated for release in 2007, but the page hasn't been updated for a year or so.

I hope this project hasn't been shelved. A Babi Yar "documentary" signed Steven Spielberg could possibly trigger forensic examinations/excavations at the site.

For more info on Babi Yar, see:

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndbabiyar.html

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Postby vali » 1 decade 4 years ago (Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:52 pm)

Maybe Michael Shermer will use this evidence to help him win the
NAFCASH EINSATZGRUPPEN CHALLENGE

If Michael Shermer will publish in his “SKEPTIC” magazine, scientific - forensic proof of the existence of a SINGLE mass grave that contains the alleged crushed bone and ash of ONLY 1% of the alleged mass murder at BABI YAR (that’s the remains of just 1,000 people), NAFCASH TM will void all of THE TREBLINKA CSI CHALLENEG TM contracts, delete all content from this site, and sell the rights to nafcash.com (and all of our trademarks) to Michael Shermer for ONE American dollar. JUST ONE GRAVE! – JUST ONE PERCENT! The only caveat being that the SKEPTICAL archeologist Ken Feder must, unequivocally, endorse said proof as irreproachable. If you’re wondering why Shermer refuses to accept this easily provable challenge (that is IF this legend is true) and shut down our site, click HERE. Shermer’s insane / megalomanic boast that he’s proven the official / Jewish version of the holocaust?

Easily, logically, scientifically, forensically and irrefutably - DEBUNKED!

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Postby Reinhard » 1 decade 4 years ago (Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:03 am)

Laurentz Dahl wrote: A Babi Yar "documentary" signed Steven Spielberg could possibly trigger forensic examinations/excavations at the site.


I don't think so. The "orange" Ukrainian government, whose election campaign was funded by the Wall Street - Jew George Soros, most certainly will never allow that. It's more likely that the site of the alleged crime would be transformed in one of those "holy places", which mustn't be disturbed and are part of the "Holocaust-religion" in creation, as was discussed here in another thread.
Any other Ukrainian government wouldn't allow it either, for too many people have an interest in protecting those war propaganda lies - Germany is paying too well for it for over 60 years now.

But we have the air-photographs taken by the Luftwaffe, which prove that nothing of the sort the Jews claim to have happened ever took place there.
[John C. Ball, "Air Photo Evidence", Delta, B.C., 1992, pp. 106-108 and Ernst Gauss [=Germar Rudolf] (ed.), "Grundlagen zur Zeitgeschichte", Grabert, Tübingen 1994, pp. 239 and 375-399]

One photograph was taken on September 26, 1943, immediately after the alleged destruction of all traces of the horrible crime (digging out all the bodies and burning them without leaving any trace of the bodies or the graves or the fires etc.pp.) by the strange "Sonderkommando 1005", showing nothing of the sort at all: no traces of any big fires, no disturbance of the soil, no traces of the many many truckloads that would have been necessary to supply the fuel for cremation.

And why didn't the Sovjets come up with a "Katyn-style" investigation committee with experts from neutral countries immediately after they re-conquered Kiew at the end of September 1943? The reason is quite plain: there were no proofs, so there was no such crime.

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Postby Laurentz Dahl » 1 decade 4 years ago (Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:29 am)

Reinhard wrote:One photograph was taken on September 26, 1943, immediately after the alleged destruction of all traces of the horrible crime (digging out all the bodies and burning them without leaving any trace of the bodies or the graves or the fires etc.pp.) by the strange "Sonderkommando 1005", showing nothing of the sort at all: no traces of any big fires, no disturbance of the soil, no traces of the many many truckloads that would have been necessary to supply the fuel for cremation.


According to at least some of the sources, september 26 1943 was the last day of the cremations (at least one source claims that the 28th of the same month was the last date!). Not only the remnants of huge funeral pyres, but also innumerable traces from the process such as tracks from lorrys with fuel going back and forth from the site and the immense excavations of the mass graves would be clearly visible in this photo:

http://www.vho.org/D/gzz/BallBabijarg.jpg

(Melnikowa street seen to the bottom middle, the Jewish cemetary immediately to the right of this)

But there are no such traces visible, at all! The only thing different in this photo from the ones taken before the massacre and later in 1944 is the natural changes in vegetation. Strange... :roll:


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