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News! Zundel to get another 'Holocaust' trial - in Germany

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:55 pm)

FYI.
- Hannover

Press Release

Political kidnap victim, Ernst Zundel, will get another Holocaust
trial, this time in his native Germany.

Charges have been laid against Zundel under the highly controversial,
undemocratic Paragraph 130, which makes it a criminal offense in
Germany to "doubt the Holocaust" and "defame the memory of the dead."

For the past twelve years, more than 100,000 people have been charged
in Germany for "thought crimes."

The Zundel attorney team reports that he is in good spirits and feels
eager and combative to start another legal round in his life-long
attempt to clear his native country and its people of the false
charge of industrial genocide in German concentration camps by
gassing.

The trial will take place in Mannheim, Germany. Initial trial dates
have been set as follows:

November 8 - 9
November 15 - 16
November 24

Plans are now underway to cover this trial with as broad a media
segment as possible. Anybody interested in reporting on this trial -
possibly even on location - please write to [email protected]
or [email protected] for details. Some stipends to cover costs
of travel and accommodations are available.

A 12-minute preview DVD of the historical significance of Ernst
Zundel's first two Great Holocaust trials in Canada in 1985 and 1988
is available upon request.

Ingrid Zundel
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Postby Richard Perle » 1 decade 4 years ago (Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:02 pm)

Previous Zundel trials have been very good overall for revisionism. I hope Zundel puts forward a thorough revisionist case without any of the deficiencies that were evident with Irving's trial. I also hope the trial taking place in Germany won't eliminate his access to a solid backup of revisionists.

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Postby neocon » 1 decade 4 years ago (Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:12 pm)

The Trial in Mannheim will be more like a stalinist Showtrial.
A Mannheim Court once even convicted the *lawyer* of a
revisionist for his closing arguments in the case...

In another case a judge in the written verdict said,
that he could understand the motives of a revisionist,
and besides his thoughts he was a decent man:
the judge got mobbed by the local press and retired.

no chance at all for zundel. absolutely no fucking chance :-(

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:08 pm)

Anyone testifying on Zundel's behave or even defending him will be subject to arrest. Mattogno, Faurisson, Rudolf, anyone; they all would be arrested and accused of 'racism' and 'inciting hatred'. It will a be just another corrupt Communist style show trial.

For example see this from the recent trial of Swiss revisionist Jurgen Graf:

'Austrian chemical engineer Wolfgang Froelich - what he says'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=516
excerpt:
Immediately following Froelich's statement, here is what public prosecutor Aufdenblatten had to say to him:

Aufdenblatten: "I hereby ask the court to bring charges against you for racial discrimination, on the basis of Article 261 (the Anti-Racism Law) or otherwise I'll do it myself".


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Postby gasto » 1 decade 4 years ago (Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:11 pm)

setting aside the fact that Zundel has very few chances of winning, this could mean a great advancement on behalf of world revisionism...

I´m really looking forward to it..
If Human Soap rumour was fake, why can´t all the other absurd claims be too??

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Postby Richard Perle » 1 decade 4 years ago (Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:11 am)

If Zundel has no chance of gathering a strong team to testify on the side of him and revisionism, then what hope is there for any advancement?

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Postby Erik D. Schmid » 1 decade 4 years ago (Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:20 am)

I would think the publicity alone would do quite a bit of good in showing the world how ridiculous this type of thought policing is. It also might give people who know about it pause to think that maybe the stories they have been led to believe are not as cut and dried as they appear. The key thing though is to make sure that this trial is well known and does not get swept under the rug and forgotten about.

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Postby gasto » 1 decade 4 years ago (Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:36 pm)

Richard Perle wrote:If Zundel has no chance of gathering a strong team to testify on the side of him and revisionism, then what hope is there for any advancement?


just by listening to zundel´s answers, I´m pretty sure he will shut more than one mouth....

remember, hope is the last thing to lose...
If Human Soap rumour was fake, why can´t all the other absurd claims be too??

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Postby neocon » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:13 am)

The court wont even talk to Zundel about the "holocaust facts".
The "facts" are not up for discussion. No chance Zundel will
be able to call any witness / expert on mass destruction like
in the Canadian trials. This really is a Zionist/Stalinist showtrial.

He will look like someone, who is "unbelehrbar" and will get
the full sentence like 4-5 years I think.

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Postby Richard Perle » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:24 am)

"“He who, as a defense lawyer in a trial about inciting the masses, files a motion to introduce evidence, which denies the genocide against the Jews committed under the rule of National Socialism, invariably commits a crime according to Sec. 130 III Penal Code.”"

This will indeed be another show trial. Hopefully it will show people what an appalling set of laws German has in place and might provoke people to ask "why?"

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Postby Scott » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:33 am)

Richard Perle wrote:Hopefully it will show people what an appalling set of laws German[y] has in place and might provoke people to ask "why?"


I doubt it. There will probably be a complete media blackout everywhere until the guilty verdict is in.

:D

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Postby ClaudiaRothenbach » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:14 am)

Here is the law:
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bundesrecht/stgb/index.html

And here is the §:
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bundesrecht/stgb/__130.html

(3) Mit Freiheitsstrafe bis zu fünf Jahren oder mit Geldstrafe wird bestraft, wer eine unter der Herrschaft des Nationalsozialismus begangene Handlung der in § § 6 Abs. 1 des Völkerstrafgesetzbuches bezeichneten Art in einer Weise, die geeignet ist, den öffentlichen Frieden zu stören, öffentlich oder in einer Versammlung billigt, leugnet oder verharmlost.


Ernst Zündel was in prison in the USA and Canada for 2 years.
Imprisonment on remand in Germany will be one year.
That means that they can only sentence him for 2 more years.

After that Zündel is a free man and finds a country where he can live happy with his wife.

Good luck, Ernst and Ingrid, and thank you for everything.
"Everything has already been said, but not yet by everyone." - Karl Valentin


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