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Video about Treblinka

Postby Webmaster » 1 decade 6 years ago (Mon Apr 07, 2003 8:30 am)

Hi all,

There have been several discussions about Treblinka and ground penetrating radar. I found and uploaded some proof that they actually where there. This is a video in MPG-format, and it’s about 29 MB in size, so it will take some time to download it!

Right-click on the link below and save it to your disk:

http://www.codoh.com/video/treblinka.mpg

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Mon Apr 07, 2003 9:48 am)

900,000 Jews were supposed to have been murdered at Treblinka, but were not. The Ground Penetrating Radar revealed no massive pit where the 900,000 were said to have been buried, exhumed, & cremated on outdoor pyres (the absurd Treblinka story in itself is laughable).

Treblinka, another link in the scam known as the 'holocau$t'. Science triumphs over propaganda.

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Postby israelite » 1 decade 6 years ago (Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:25 pm)

Did Krege ever publish his findings at Treblinka

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Postby tonythetiger » 1 decade 6 years ago (Fri Apr 25, 2003 10:27 am)

i just registered to find out more on this video,anyone have alonger clip or know where i can get it.also some more info on the credentials of the people doing the test and how the believers responding to this video.
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Postby Hebden » 1 decade 6 years ago (Fri Apr 25, 2003 3:32 pm)

tonythetiger wrote:
Whilst the cat's away, the mice will play....

sorry dont get that?


Your posts are in breach of the designated posting hours:

Posting by registered members of The Revisionist Forum can be done anytime EXCEPT week days 8:00 AM - 7:00 PM (US Pacific Time), there are no restrictions on weekends.


Regarding the Treblinka video, we trust the Webmaster will do the forum the courtesy of informing us of his source. Our own email, sent to the Adelaide Institute some time ago, on the prospects for the publication of a report on the GPR work, did not receive an answer.

We are forced to regard Mr. Krege and his team as being in the same boat as Messrs. Mazal, Keren and McCarthy, whose report allegedly demonstrating the existence of the 'holes' in the roof of LKI of KII, has similarly been kept from the public gaze. Most unsatisfactory.

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Postby Moderator » 1 decade 6 years ago (Fri Apr 25, 2003 8:40 pm)

I slack off for a bit and look what happens; can't we all just get along?

And, we should stay on topic.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Fri Apr 25, 2003 8:46 pm)

Richard Krege, the man who did the ground penetrating radar work at Treblinka (which did not show evidence of an alleged enormous pit that 900,000 Jews are alleged to have been buried in) is a "qualified electronics engineer" according to an Australian newspaper story.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Apr 26, 2003 4:26 am)

Someone asked about a report on this GPR scan. In actuality, a particular 'report' would belabor the point. What more can one say?... a scan was done and no alleged enormous mass grave was found. If the Believers have a problem, then the question remains, 'Why don't they do it themselves and prove Krege wrong'?

Here is some background on GPR and more details about the Krege work.

on Ground Penetrating Radar functionality:
http://www.geomodel.com/grave/
http://www.groundpenetratingradar.com/


from David Irving's site:
http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/Treblink ... dscan.html

A Ground Penetrating Radar (GPR) scan of the alleged mass grave site at Treblinka, Poland, conducted to a depth of eighteen feet by an expert in November 1999: it seems the ground has remained undisturbed for millions of years. Clever old Nazis, in panic of defeat, managed to put back every stone exactly in place.


more detailed report...in German:
http://vho.org/VffG/2000/1/Krege62-64.html

from the mainstrem press:
http://www.ety.com/HRP/rev/treblinka-lie.htm

"The Canberra Times"

Science, harmful to Holocaust-Industry
Monday January 24, 2000, page 6:

‘No Jewish mass grave’ in Poland ADELAIDE: An Australian Holocaust revisionist claims he has proof a mass grave never existed at Treblinka in Poland.
Data collected during a week at Treblinka. using ground penetrating radar, found no soil disturbance consistent with 870,000 Jews having been buried there.
Richard Krege, 30, of Canberra, said data collected during a week at Treblinka. using ground penetrating radar, found no soil disturbance consistent with 870,000 Jews having been buried there. ‘Historians say that the bodies were exhumed and cremated towards the end of the Treblinka camp’s use in 1943. but we found no indication that any mass graves ever existed," he said. ‘Personally, I don’t think there was a [death]-camp there at all.’ Mr Krege, who will address a public meeting in Adelaide tonight at the start of an eight-day tour, said he had gone to Poland in October last year to "find the truth".
A qualified electronics engineer, he is an associate of the Adelaide Institute run by German-born revisionist Dr Fredrick Toben, whom he is accompanying on the tour. Mr Krege said he would like to see an international group formed, possibly under the auspices of the United Nations, to use ground penetrating radar at all concentration camps in Europe. He said he was in the process of having other experts review the data he collected, but was confident that they would also conclude the mass burial did not happen.
The young Australian-born man admitted that he expected to be labelled a racist and anti-Semitic.

"The Examiner":

Monday January 24, 2000, page 17:
Poland’s Jews ‘not buried at Treblinka’ ADELAIDE - An Australian Holocaust revisionist claims he has proof a mass grave never existed a Treblinka in Poland. Richard Krege, 30, of Canberra said that data collected during a week at Treblinka, using ground penetrating radar, found no soil disturbance consistent with 870,000 Jews having been buried there.
"Historians say that the bodies were exhumed and cremated towards the end of the Treblinka camp’s use in 1943, but we found no indication that any mass graves ever existed," Mr Krege said "Personally, I don’t think there was a [death]-camp there at all." Mr Krege who will address a public meeting in Adelaide tomorrow night as the start of an eight-day national tour, said he had gone to Poland in October last year to find the truth".
A qualified electronics engineer, he is an associate of the Adelaide Institute run by German-born revisionist Dr Fredrick Toben whom he is accompanying on the tour.


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Postby tonythetiger » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Apr 26, 2003 5:00 am)

sorry,made a mess of converting the us time to uk

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Postby Malle » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Apr 26, 2003 9:01 am)

Many people in this thread want to know what happened with this Krege report. Me too. :roll:

First of all, I think this video is from a CD produced by Amalek, "Judea declares war on Germany". Don't ask me how to get it, I don't know.

Rumours say that Krege and people around him want some certified specialists to confirm Krege's findings. They will of course never find persons that are willing to risk their careers to verify this!

IMHO, they should just publish the report and let the believers refute it. Like Jürgen Graf says; "2 + 2 = 4 even if a nazi says it".
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Postby Hebden » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Apr 26, 2003 10:13 am)

Rumours say that Krege and people around him want some certified specialists to confirm Krege's findings. They will of course never find persons that are willing to risk their careers to verify this!

IMHO, they should just publish the report and let the believers refute it. Like Jürgen Graf says; "2 + 2 = 4 even if a nazi says it".


Mr. Graf was a witness to the investigation at Treblinka and Belzec:

According to witness testimonies, the bodies were buried first in gigantic mass graves, but later when the German defeat became obvious, they were burned out in the open, almost without any fuel. The whole Treblinka stands and falls thus with the existence of these graves. In August 2000, I spent several days in Treblinka, and Belzec with the young Australian engineer Richard Krege.. Belzec was another so-called extermination camp where 60,000 Jews supposedly were murdered (according to the war-time version, with electricity, and according to the after-war version, with Diesel exhaust). Krege worked in the area of these camps with a ground radar instrument which is used to find mass graves, but also mineral resources. This instrument shows disturbances in the earth structure. Neither in Treblinka, nor in Belzec, was there a zone where giant graves could have been located, or disturbances in the ground structure, except at a place in Belzec where a grave of some hundred people could have existed. Richard Krege is publishing his study which will mean the final end to the Treblinka and Belzec myths.


http://www.vho.org/~granata/graf251102.html

Having waited 2 1/2 years (and counting), this study had better deliver the goods. Before anyone can attempt to replicate or challenge the findings, it is essential that exact maps showing which areas were examined are included.

In the case of Belzec, it will be instructive to compare the results with those of the Tregenza study of 1998:

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/aktion.reinhard/belzec/archaelogical-dig-description

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//aktion.reinhard/belzec/Archeological_Report/Tregenza_Conclusions.98

http://www.codoh.info/newrevoices/ncrowell/nrvscbelzecdig.html

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Postby Malle » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Apr 26, 2003 10:40 am)

Hebden wrote:Having waited 2 1/2 years (and counting), this study had better deliver the goods. Before anyone can attempt to replicate or challenge the findings, it is essential that exact maps showing which areas were examined are included.


I agree. It's idiocy to not put the whole report on the table. They have said for 2 ½ years now; "We will publish the report in the near future!" and "here you have a snippet of the report".

IMO, these revisionists shoot themselves in the foot.
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Postby Hebden » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Apr 26, 2003 10:50 am)

Malle wrote:I agree. It's idiocy to not put the whole report on the table. They have said for 2 ½ years now; "We will publish the report in the near future!" and "here you have a snippet of the report".

IMO, these revisionists shot themselves in the foot.


Apparently, Mr. Hannover would prefer that we took their word on it:

Someone asked about a report on this GPR scan. In actuality, a particular 'report' would belabor the point. What more can one say?... a scan was done and no alleged enormous mass grave was found. If the Believers have a problem, then the question remains, 'Why don't they do it themselves and prove Krege wrong'?


However in the case of the Tregenza report he took a somewhat more critical attitude:

Frankly, I see no reason to date to accept that this study/excavation has taken place as alleged, period.

An alleged forensic study of such consequence would include complete and verifiable information. We have seen no photos of the alleged digs in progress, no photos after, no physical evidence, no identifications, no confirmation as to how they supposedly died, no cross sections, no visual reference points that would indicate the location as claimed. In fact all that I have seen, is text alleging an excavation. Any legitimate investigation of such importance would be a matter of public record while it was ongoing, bringing legitimacy and required verifiability. If the results were as stated we would be seeing it in scientific journals throughout the world, we haven't, we won't. We should be seeing the evidence before our eyes.

Not the work of a genuine investigation, not the work of science. This so called study is a fraud.


http://www.codoh.org/dcforum/DCForumID9/143.html

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Postby Malle » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Apr 26, 2003 11:59 am)

Hebden,

In the case of the Tregenza report I'm more critical then Hannover. If you read the report it says:

Tregenza report wrote:We carried out an extensive survey of the camp area drilling over 1700 boreholes and examining soil samples to a depth of 6m.


What is that for an archaeological study? DRILLING HOLES?

Tregenza report wrote:I have 9 x 90min. film cassettes of the whole operation over the period 28.4. - 4.6.98.


Where are they?

Hannover wrote:Not the work of a genuine investigation, not the work of science. This so called study is a fraud.


I agree on that!
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Postby Hebden » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Apr 26, 2003 1:26 pm)

Malle wrote:Hebden,

In the case of the Tregenza report I'm more critical then Hannover.


:roll:

That was just his first impression. Here for your delectation is Mr. Hannover's considered response after he had an opportunity to study the whole report:

http://hannover.yourforum.org/letter/22.html

If you read the report it says:

Tregenza report wrote:We carried out an extensive survey of the camp area drilling over 1700 boreholes and examining soil samples to a depth of 6m.


What is that for an archaeological study? DRILLING HOLES?


And this is your basis for calling the report a fraud?

Tregenza report wrote:I have 9 x 90min. film cassettes of the whole operation over the period 28.4. - 4.6.98.


Where are they?


Good question. Make yourself useful - try and find the answer and then report back to the forum.


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