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USC to fund $5,000,000 yearly to 'propogate shoah archive'

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:06 am)

The fraud and scam continues.

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USC promises to preserve and propagate the archive, which includes 52,000 videotaped life histories, all of them digitized. The university will fund the $5 million annual budget.

It always comes down to money.

And ofcourse, if this entire 'archive' is available to everyone, the folly of any gas chambers claims and other absurdities will be utterly exposed by those who will note the scientific impossibilities, lack of claimed mass graves, general lack of evidence, and the vast contradictions which are the norm within these 'survivor' tales.

The project is laughable on the face of it and collapses upon itself. An alleged 'state planned extermination of Jews', but so many claimed 'survivors'.

The rationally minded will have a field day with this nonsense, IF the general public is not banned from accessing the entire 'archive'.

Comments invited.

- Hannover

full article:
Spielberg Holocaust foundation joins California university
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/636899.html

By The Associated Press

Steven Spielberg's voluminous archive documenting the lives of Holocaust survivors has merged with the University of Southern California.

The Survivors of the Shoah Visual History Foundation officially became part of USC's College of Letters, Arts and Sciences on Thursday after years of negotiations.

USC promises to preserve and propagate the archive, which includes 52,000 videotaped life histories, all of them digitized. The university will fund the $5 million (-4.2 million) annual budget.

"I've been the lightning rod of this foundation since its inception, and there is a prejudice against figureheads in Hollywood," said Spielberg, a USC trustee. As part of a university, "the Shoah Foundation will be taken much more seriously throughout the world."

Spielberg started the Shoah foundation on the set of the 1993 movie "Schindler's List," which told the story of Czech businessman Oskar Schindler, who exploited Jewish labor during World War II but also saved more than 1,000 lives during the Holocaust. Shoah is Hebrew for "calamity."

The archive is viewable on computer systems at universities including USC, Rice, Yale and the University of Michigan. Portions also are available to museums, research institutions and schools worldwide.
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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:16 am)

Daisy Miller, spokesperson for Spielberg's 'Shoah Foundation', on the laughable 'survivor' interviews they have collected, 6/1/01:
I hate to be crass, but now is the time to bring up the subject of donations to keep our momentous work afloat. After all, we have a strict budget set at 13 million [USD] per year.

We would never dream of making this material available to the general public on the internet. Our material shall only be available to approved scholars, students, educators and researchers.

Smoke & mirrors and always money. And who does the approving?

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Postby PatrickH » 1 decade 4 years ago (Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:38 am)

Spielberg made a big mistake in making this garbage available to the public for research purposes. The hoaxoco$t can only survive as pseudo-mystical religious malarkey. As soon as it becomes investigated, the whole filthy blood libel goes up in smoke.

Mahler is correct in writing, "The days are numbered for the Big Lie."

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Postby Erik D. Schmid » 1 decade 4 years ago (Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:40 am)

The approving is done by those of a single mindset. They will make these items available to those who share that mindset only. This is how it is done in the academic/museum world. If your opinion or research is potentially harmful to the currently accepted theory on the subject being investigated, you will be met with a very closed door policy. Now, on a subject as powerful as this, the dors become that much harder to open for those of us seeking to expose the lies.

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Postby PatrickSMcNally » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:22 am)

>>>They will make these items available to those who share that mindset only.<<<

That undoubtedly is the intent. However even academic publications which get produced on the basis of such data frequently do carry much that can be used to deduce the true state of affairs. For instance, FORWARD published awhile back the statement that in late 2003,

http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.1 ... laims.html

"The actual number of living survivors is a matter of intense dispute. One recent study, by Hebrew University demographer Sergio Della Pergola, found 1,092,000 survivors worldwide, of whom 46.8%, or 511,000, live in Israel. Another recent study, by Jacob Ukeles, a New York-based demographic researcher and policy consultant, found 688,000 survivors worldwide, with 38.5%, or 265,000, living in Israel. Both studies found about 16% of all survivors living in the United States."

ABC commented on the same story that,

http://abcnews.go.com/International/print?id=687689

"At the beginning of 2004, 1,092,000 Holocaust survivors were still living worldwide, about half of them in Israel. About 10 percent of survivors die each year, the report said."

If one uses this 10 percent yearly mortality rate, or 90 percent yearly survival rate, with the two estimates given by FORWARD of 688,000 and 1,092,000 survivors in late 2003, one can get out a calculator to deduce other things.

http://www.calculator.com/pantaserv/mak ... i=y&trig=y

I would estimate the number of Hollow-co$t survivors in the spring of 1945 to have been between 332,447,318 and 527,663,476. There should have been 6,000,000 survivors remaining sometime between 1982-1987. Those 6,000,000 have been dying out ever since. If Spielberg does generate a new wave of publications based upon such authentic survivor accounts, you can be sure there will be many opportunities opened up for similar deductions.

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Postby Neue Geschichte » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:51 am)

OK, you lost me here.

While obviously the number of \\\'survivors\\\' would increase for every year moving back from 2003, when the number was supposedly 1,092 million, I can\\\'t figure out the way you\\\'re running these numbers.

If I run the numbers based on a 10% mortality rate per year constant from 1945 to 2003, I get a total of 492.217.546 survivors in 1945, consistent with what you found.

However, life expectancy decreases considerably as one grows older. So it isn\\\'t exactly \\\'fair\\\' to compute the numbers in this manner.

http://www.lifeexpectancy.com/survival.shtml

Here you can see a survival curve (in red) for the average population.

The survival rate of \\\'survivors\\\', then, would need to be adjusted.

I\\\'m sure the numbers still don\\\'t \\\'work\\\', but it does help to be fair.

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Postby Vallon » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:52 am)

The Claims Commision's statistics can be found in:
http://www.claimscon.org/forms/allocati ... CHEIC_.pdf

Their definition is very wide:
Definition of a Nazi Victim: A Jew who lived in a country at the time when it was under a Nazi regime; under Nazi occupation, or under the regime of Nazi collaborators or who fled to a country or region not under Nazi rule or occupation due to Nazi rule or Nazi occupation.

note: The definition includes only people who lived in regions of Russia under Nazi occupation or rule, as the entire country was not under Nazi rule.

note: “Flight cases” includes people who fled shortly before their country was invaded, those who fled during the Nazi invasion of their country before it was entirely occupied, or those who fled shortly after their country was occupied.

The claims commission say that their best data is self-reported information in the 1997 Israeli census.
That year 40 200 people claimed to be survivors of a concentration camp slash death camp, 70 000 survived ghetto or labor camp or hiding, 78 000 were flight cases, and 95 000 self-defined nazi victims.

It seems that way too many Israelis claim to have survived a death camp. Probably the same mechanism is at work as in occupied Europe: large numbers in the homes for the elderly were in the resistance or were hiding jews on the attic.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:25 pm)

The variations in the numbers of so called 'survivors' are curiously large for an alleged 'German extermination policy' to have been in effect. That in itself is indicative of a story that is filled with lies, and lies are very difficult to keep straight. We all know the expression ... 'tell the truth, it's easier to remember'.

Since there is no evidence of 'gassings', '1-2,000,000 shot into pits', and the sacred '6,000,000' is unsupportable, we are left discussing 'how many angels can dance on the head of a pin' ... when there are no angels.

Spielberg's dumb Shoah silliness is doomed by researchers who will expose it's fraudulence .... if they are allowed access to the entire archive.

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Postby Richard Perle » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:26 pm)

If the definition of a survivor includes those who fled, then an estimation, using survivors currently alive, of how many survivors were alive at wars end, would include those who fled and those who were imprisoned, and could potentially account for those Jews were are told are missing and presumed murdered.

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Postby Goethe » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:02 pm)

Spielberg's dumb Shoah silliness is doomed by researchers who will expose it's fraudulence .... if they are allowed access to the entire archive.

Guaranteed.
But there is no way that supremacist Jews will permit access to everyone. I also would like to see the salaries of those who are the gatekeepers to this archive.
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Postby PatrickSMcNally » 1 decade 4 years ago (Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:34 am)

>>>If I run the numbers based on a 10% mortality rate per year constant from 1945 to 2003, I get a total of 492.217.546 survivors in 1945, consistent with what you found.

However, life expectancy decreases considerably as one grows older.<<<

I don't think that the data at

http://www.lifeexpectancy.com/survival.shtml

deals with quite the same phenomenon as the alleged 10% mortality rate among Hollow-co$t survivors. First, the graph there assumes that everyone is 10 at the same time. Some Hollow-co$t survivors may have been below age 10 in the spring of 1945, and others would have been significantly older. Second, the percentages in this graph correspond to the number of survivors out of the original age 10 group who are still living at a given age. I read the alleged 10% mortality rate to mean that 10% die in a given year out of the previous years survivors. Probably a more directly pertinent collection of data from the same source is at:

http://www.lifeexpectancy.com/help/1.0/ ... able.shtml

According to this, the number of survivors after 1 year from a starting sample of 81381 is 80087. This would translate into a 98.41% chance of survival for 1 year or more at the age of 60. A Hollow-co$t survivor in the year 2005 would have to be at least 60, if they were possibly born in the last weeks of WWII. The same table gives a chance of 96.4% survival for 1 or more years at age 70. For age 80: 91.72%. For age 90: 81.54%. For age 100: 66.48%. If one assumes that most Hollow-co$t survivors are 80 or younger, then the apparent drop down to 90% annual survival rates could be accounted for by the effects of staying in a Nazi death camp. If we assume that a notable portion are as old as 100, then the 90% figure might be just the result of averaging across different age groups, including younger ages. It could also make some sense to imagine that the Hollow-co$t survivors who were 80 or more years old in 1945 would have had significantly higher mortality rates, even in the post-war period, than any of those who have lived to be 80 today. But there would also have been higher survival rates among the younger ones than among those today who now must be 60 or more years old.

But as for where I took the figures of 332,447,318 and 527,663,476 from, I used the 0.9 that was given to be assumed and 58.66 years at the close of 2003 (when the census results were announced) from the end of WWII in the spring of 1945. Then using the y-to-the-x key on the calculator, I determined that 332,447,318*((0.9)^(58.66)) = 688,000 and 527,663,476*((0.9)^(58.66)) = 1,092,000.


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