A burning question: cremations in 4-7 minutes?

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A burning question: cremations in 4-7 minutes?

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:16 pm)

According to 'eyewitnesses of the 'holocaust', cremations at Auschwitz occurred with 4-7 minutes, an utter impossibility.

:arrow: highly acclaimed "eyewitness" Henryk Tauber stated that a body could be cremated in 5-7 minutes

:arrow: Auschwitz "eyewitness" Dov Paisikovic stated that the cremation of one body took about four minutes!


Question these impossibilities and you'll go to jail in many countries.

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Postby Vallon » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:40 am)

Hannover wrote:According to 'eyewitnesses of the 'holocaust', cremations at Auschwitz occurred with 4-7 minutes, an utter impossibility.

:arrow: highly acclaimed "eyewitness" Henryk Tauber stated that a body could be cremated in 5-7 minutes.

This is what Henryk Tauber actually said:
At the time when I was working there, the incineration of such a charge (5 corpses in one muffle) took up to an hour and a half, because they were the bodies of very thin people, real skeletons, which burned very slowly.
http://www.mazal.org/archive/documents/ ... uber02.htm

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Postby simon1003 » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:04 am)

I was thinking about this the other day, have Topf und sohn ever produced the original requirements for the cremation ovens?

We've seen the blueprints for the installation, was any other paperwork ever released by the company? It might be useful.

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Postby Markion » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:22 am)

Did he mean 5 persons one after another ore all together? Could be used as an excuse by believers.
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Postby Maly Jacek » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:05 am)

I guess what Bendel said can apply to cremations as well

Question: You have said, the gas chambers were 10 x 4 x 1.6 m large; is that correct?

Answer: Yes.

Question: That is 64 m3, is it not?

Answer: I am not quite sure, that is not my strong point.

Question: How can it be possible to fit 1,000 people in a 64m3 room?

Answer: That's what you have to ask yourself. It can only be done with German methods.
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Question: Do you seriously maintain that you can fit ten persons in a half cubic meter space?

Answer: The four million people gassed in Auschwitz are proof of it.

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Postby grenadier » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:59 am)

Taubers' allegations as reproduced by J-claude P contain
this bit:
Generally speaking, we burned 4 or 5 corpses at a time
in one muffle, but sometimes we charged a greater number
of corpses. It was possible to charge up to 8 'musulmans.'
Such big charges were incinerated without the knowledge of
the head of the crematorium during air-raid warnings in
order to attract the attention of airmen by having a bigger
fire emerging from the chimney.


Tauber suggests flames always came out of the chimney when
he talks about bigger fires but this is impossible because
crematory chimneys dont spit out any flames.
When Tauber speaks of very thin corpses it means that
these bodies are not those of recent arrivals in the camp
who were imediatelly murdered by poison gas but much more
likely, the corpses of typhus victims.
Plus, though it is possible to place several corpses into a
muffle, inserting them one after the other, this would be
totally ineffective and would generate very serious
thermo-technical problems. This would have resulted in
slowing down or even stopping the cremation process and would
have damaged muffle, flue and chimney.

We dont even have to go into Taubers' other BS, such as
claiming corpses were cremated without fuel, etc.

So much for this liars'(Tauber) tall tales.

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Postby TMoran » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:02 am)

Vallon says:
This is what Henryk Tauber actually said:


Quote:
At the time when I was working there, the incineration of such a charge (5 corpses in one muffle) took up to an hour and a half, because they were the bodies of very thin people, real skeletons, which burned very slowly.
http://www.mazal.org/archive/documents/ ... uber02.htm


Tauber, ala Pressac's inclusion of his testimony:
On 4th March [1943], we were ordered to fire the hearths. We worked there until 4 o'clock in the afternoon. It was then that a commission formed of members of the Political Section and senior SS officers from Berlin arrived at the crematorium [Kr II]. ... At that time, the Sonderkommando prisoners did not know where these corpses came from. It turned out they were to he used to test and demonstrate to this big commission the operation and capacity of Krematorium II which was going to be started up. Via the lift [9] and the door [14a] leading to the “boiler room”, we took out the bodies and placed them two or three at a time on trolleys of the type I described for Krematorium I and charged them into the different muffles. As soon as all the muffles of the five furnaces had been charged [with three corpses per muffle: 3 x 5 = 45], the members of the commission began to observe the operation, watch in hand. They opened the muffle doors. looked at their watches, expressed surprise at the slowness of the cremation process. In view of the fact that the furnaces were not yet hot enough, even though we had been firing them since the morning, and because they were brand new, the incineration of this charge took about 40 minutes. [Later on,] in continuous operation, we could burn two charges per hour. According to the regulations. we were supposed to charge the muffles every half hour. Ober Capo August explained to us that, according to the calculations and plans for this crematorium, 5 to 7 minutes was allowed to burn one corpse in a muffle. ....

I worked in Krematorium II until about mid-April. During my stay, convoys arrived from Greece, France and Holland. In addition, we also burned the corpses of people designated for gassing at selections within the camp. I cannot say how many people were gassed during this period. We worked in two shifts. a day shift and a night shift. On average, we incinerated 2500 corpses a day.



Well, Vallon, it looks like you overlooked something?


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