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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:21 pm)

Valon quoted:
In an article in the Northern California Jewish Bulletin of April 18, 1997 devoted to the antirevisionist struggle in the classroom, one may read:

"No gas chambers or crematoria were left standing. Only one film of actual killings -- four minutes long and housed in the Yad Vashem archives -- exists."

Then Vallon says, even though there is no mention of alleged 'shootings' in the quote (and for which there are no mass graves as alleged):
I think this refers to an Einsatzgruppen killing (or was it Lithuanians). I have seen that on the USHMM site. Search for Liepaja.

OK then, why can't we see that film either? Please show the film to us. And no, not the phoney 'pictures' that we have already debunked, but the film footage. You claim it, you show it.

Maybe it's the one they show at The Simon Wiesenthal Center, which is a staged cut from a 1960's Polish movie under false pretense of being an actual mass shooting.

As for the 'pile of shoes' image, well it's just plain laughable. Look at it, it looks a pile of 'something' cut & pasted in against a picture of a building.

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Postby Obersto » 1 decade 4 years ago (Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:44 pm)

Hannover wrote:

Maybe it's the one they show at The Simon Wiesenthal Center, which is a staged cut from a 1960's Polish movie under false pretense of being an actual mass shooting.

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I'm just curious, but what film is this? It sounds familiar.
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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:35 am)

Obersto:

It was taken from the 1962 Polish film, The Ambulance. In it we have a staged and absurd 'gas van gassing' which the liars at the Simon Wiesenthal Center pass off as authentic, and a staged Einsatzgruppen shooting scene which they pass off as a real, filmed event.

see:
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1234

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Postby Vallon » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:02 am)

Hannover wrote:Valon quoted:
In an article in the Northern California Jewish Bulletin of April 18, 1997 devoted to the antirevisionist struggle in the classroom, one may read:

"No gas chambers or crematoria were left standing. Only one film of actual killings -- four minutes long and housed in the Yad Vashem archives -- exists."

Then Vallon says, even though there is no mention of alleged 'shootings' in the quote (and for which there are no mass graves as alleged):
I think this refers to an Einsatzgruppen killing (or was it Lithuanians). I have seen that on the USHMM site. Search for Liepaja.

OK then, why can't we see that film either? Please show the film to us. And no, not the phoney 'pictures' that we have already debunked, but the film footage. You claim it, you show it.

Maybe this link will work:
http://www.ushmm.org/lcmedia/viewer/wlc ... d=DFE0097L

The film is a bit shorter than two minutes, and credited to Henny Wiener.

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Postby PLAYWRIGHT » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:57 am)

Hannover wrote:Valon quoted:
In an article in the Northern California Jewish Bulletin of April 18, 1997 devoted to the antirevisionist struggle in the classroom, one may read:

"No gas chambers or crematoria were left standing. Only one film of actual killings -- four minutes long and housed in the Yad Vashem archives -- exists." I think this refers to an Einsatzgruppen killing (or was it Lithuanians). I have seen that on the USHMM site. Search for Liepaja.


OK then, why can't we see that film either? Please show the film to us. And no, not the phoney 'pictures' that we have already debunked, but the film footage. You claim it, you show it.

Maybe it's the one they show at The Simon Wiesenthal Center, which is a staged cut from a 1960's Polish movie under false pretense of being an actual mass shooting.

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Here is a fragment of the movie in question on the USHMM site. The movie was filmed by a Kreigsmarine petty officer named Rienhard Wiener at Liepaja. For once, the film has a credible provenance, with people unloaded and being shot, and it seems to be authentic, but it’s still deceptive.

First off, it’s presented as being the activities of the Einstatzgruppen, when in fact it looks like it was done by Kriegsmarine personnel. Liepaja, a Latvian naval base, was taken over by the Kreigsmarine.

Second, the date is unclear. It’s sometimes presented as being filmed in the summer of 1941, sometimes in the summer of 1944. If in the summer of 1944, it would be very unlikely that the people being shot were Jews.

The film gives no clue as to the identity of the people being shot. Jews? Communists? Partisans? Nobody has ever denied that people were shot on the Eastern Front, but for it to be part of a "Holocaust", you have to define who and why. The people being shot don't look like Jews.

And there are only a handful shown being shot. It hardly qualifies as a “Holocaust”. If this movie was made in the summer of 1944, during the Courland battles, it may even be Latvian deserters.

http://www.ushmm.org/lcmedia/viewer/wlc ... d=DFE0097L

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Postby Vallon » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:18 am)

PLAYWRIGHT wrote:If this movie was made in the summer of 1944, during the Courland battles, it may even be Latvian deserters.

The year 1944 is not correct. Here is a site with statements by Reinhard Wiener (thanks for providing the name):
It was shot in 1941 by Reinhard Wiener, a German naval sergeant and amateur cinnematographer, stationed in Latvia, who had obtained permission from the navy to film in the area of the fleet. According to testimony given by Wiener in Israel in 1981, he had walked into the town of Liepaja one day in August of that year, carrying his 8 mm camera. ... He was walking in a wooded park near the beach when a soldier ran up to him and told him not to walk any farther, because something "terrible, awful" was happening there. Asked what it was, the man replied, "Well, they're killing Jews there."
http://www.temple.edu/tempress/chapters ... 53_ch1.pdf

Description in German:
http://www.cine-holocaust.de/cgi-bin/gd ... w000799.gd

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:51 am)

Is this a joke? That film is it? Laughable.

Nothing like seeing the execution of a few illegal guerilla terrorists while claiming that it is 'killing the Jews there'. Such are the 'holocau$t' lies.

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- 'Killing the Jews there' while the entire village looks on? 'Something so terrible' that filming was done in the open with ease. Yep those nasty Germans tried to keep everything secret.

- Where are the huge numbers that are fraudulently alleged?

- We don't even have the Einsatzgruppen here, we obviously have Kriegsmarine personnel.

- As for Wiener's statements in Israel; well, duh, say what's necessary to save your butt. However the actual film supports nothing about the assertions made about it. So typical of the sleazy money making propaganda machine called the holocau$t' Museum.

Revisionists have nailed them again.

also:
'U.S. 'Holocaust' Museum busted in gas chamber fraud'
This is a great example of the fraudulent nature of the 'holocau$t' Industry. Think about the sheer desperation and lack of ethics by those who benefit from the lies. The average man on the street would find it hard to imagine that a group of people would engage in such blatant acts. But here it is, a prime example for all to see.

And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Comments invited.

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U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum displays standard German air-raid shelter door, describing it as the door to a gas chamber at Majdanek

By David Thomas

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At left: The door at the concentration camp Majdanek from which the USHMM made the replica which is now on display in Washington D.C.. At right, the real function of the door and thousands more like it is shown in a widely distributed German ad for bomb-shelter doors and window covers, intended for military and civilian use. Approximately 670,000 German civilians were killed in the massive Allied terror-bombing campaign directed at population centers throughout Germany.
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A standard air-raid shelter door is displayed at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum along with the claim that it is a casting of the door to a homicidal gassing chamber at the Majdanek concentration camp. The peephole was supposed to be for monitoring the progress of killing with cyanide gas released from a common fumigation product called Zyklon B. Those looking through it were sometimes said to do so to monitor and improve the efficiency of the killing system, but a more common charge is that it was done for sadistic personal pleasure.

Many are convinced that German hatred for Jews was so great that they derived great amusement and satisfaction from watching their death throes, as well as engaging in bizarre forms of harassment and torture, some of them quite fantastic, bordering on the supernatural. There's been a steady tendency for the claims to increase their variety and horrific detail with the passage of time, perhaps showing the dubious phenomenon of recovered memory enjoying its most productive period ever.

The realities of the myths that sprang from a thirst for vengeance and are sustained by it still, with the added factor of a memorial industry and reparations in the billions of dollars that depend on it totally, are often very different.

The door and window shutter (Türen und Blenden) on the right appear in an advertisement for equipment to outfit the thousands of air-raid shelters built across Germany and occupied territories, including the concentration camps. (See: Technique and Operation of German Anti-Gas Shelters in World War II, by Samuel Crowell) As noted in the Crowell article, and several more to come, it has recently been discovered that German air-raid shelters were required to also provide protection against gas attack. With WWII coming only 20 years after WWI, memory of the horrors of gas warfare then were relatively fresh, and the Germans took more defensive measures than most since the conflict was sure to be played out again on European soil.

The peepholes in the doors were for safety purposes. People inside wanted to be able to see conditions outside before exposing themselves to possible danger, and rescuers from outside had the same concern, plus wanting to make a quick evaluation without opening the door in order to save precious time (seeing if everyone was dead, or if no one was inside).

Steadily, piece by piece, the sources of the myth are being exposed at an accelerating pace. Camps inside the borders of Germany were available for inspection by many people after the war, and the adamant accusations of killing centers there made in 1945-46 were officially admitted to be false in 1960. Despite this, or perhaps because of it, show trials were held to reinforce the story in the public mind, particularly and most successfully in Germany, and another group of German veterans were convicted based on flimsy, contradictory and often quite unbelievable oral testimonies, as at the earlier kangaroo trials. There, accusations that someone struck a prisoner were sufficient to result in a death sentence for participating in a conspiracy to commit crimes against humanity. It was not necessary to prove that the person killed anyone, only that he or she played an active part in a sprawling system that did so. Despite the fact that the false allegations about mass gassing chambers in Dachau and other German camps came from some of the same sources that made similar charges about Auschwitz, Treblinka and Majdanek, there was no call to question the now suspect testimony. It was accepted as fully true with no hesitation.

But with the fall of the Soviet Union and the opening of many of its archives, fresh eyes and attitudes are actively seeking the truth of the matter and in the process finding truth to be a scarce commodity when atrocity charges are involved. The now Religion of the Holocaust has defenders as fiercely immune to logic and a concern for truth as any fundamentalist religion that has ever existed. Nevertheless, at some point the burden of supporting the unsupportable will become too hard and too dangerous, and we predict that at that time the gas chamber canard will be quietly abandoned in favor of the real and documented wrongs of a lesser but still horrible magnitude.

Perhaps the Allied powers will one day own up to their own crimes, committed in an effort to grind the will of the German people into dust so that they would not pose a future threat to those who consider domination of world trade and finance to be their exclusive possession. Almost 15 million Germans were summarily expelled from their homelands that in some cases went back 700 years or more, cast into the harshest European winter in a century with only what they could grab and carry. More than two million of them died of starvation, disease, and merciless attacks from those they encountered on their frozen paths of desperation. It was a pogrom of a magnitude unmatched in recorded history, and not only have the victims never received any kind of compensation, their story is known to very few because of a virulent anti-German bias that flourishes in the corridors of power. The innocent souls of the German victims are surely as worthy of acknowledgement as any other group victimized, and the situation cries out for justice, for at least a chronicling of the truth.

That lot will fall to another generation, but this will be the one to force a public and honest re-examination of what really went on inside the German forced labor camps from 1940 to 1945. Any who feel threatened by truth or the search for it say far more about the validity of their own positions than do their critics.

-- David Thomas, 7/12/97


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A remarkably sinister rendering of the air raid shelter door casting at the USHMM, found at their student outreach web offering.

http://www.ushmm.org/misc-bin/add_gobac ... /892-1.htm

The caption there is:

"This casting of a door to the gas chamber in the Majdanek killing center, near Lublin, Poland, was commissioned by the United States Holocaust Museum in 1989. Majdanek functioned as a concentration camp, forced-labor camp, and killing center. Each gas chamber in Majdanek was fitted with an airtight metal door. It was bolted shut before gas entered the chamber inside. SS guards could observe the killing process through peepholes in the upper center of the door."

But, as can be seen from the ads and Crowell's article, this is just one of thousands of such doors that were produced in an attempt to keep the people in Germany from being blasted into eternity by the relentless carpet-bombings.

NOTE: The original ads were black and white, color was added for contrast and easier viewing.

courtesy of www.vho.org
http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen.html

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Postby PLAYWRIGHT » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:46 am)

Vallon wrote:
PLAYWRIGHT wrote:If this movie was made in the summer of 1944, during the Courland battles, it may even be Latvian deserters.

The year 1944 is not correct. Here is a site with statements by Reinhard Wiener (thanks for providing the name):
It was shot in 1941 by Reinhard Wiener, a German naval sergeant and amateur cinnematographer, stationed in Latvia, who had obtained permission from the navy to film in the area of the fleet. According to testimony given by Wiener in Israel in 1981, he had walked into the town of Liepaja one day in August of that year, carrying his 8 mm camera. ... He was walking in a wooded park near the beach when a soldier ran up to him and told him not to walk any farther, because something "terrible, awful" was happening there. Asked what it was, the man replied, "Well, they're killing Jews there."
http://www.temple.edu/tempress/chapters ... 53_ch1.pdf


Amazingly, the claims that this film was shot in 1944 come from Yad Vashem. Wonder how they got it so wrong.

http://www1.yadvashem.org/about_yad/mag ... cenes.html

I note that the commentary you linked comes from Temple University, home of noted Holocaust shill Deborah Lipstadt. There are telling items of interest in it.

The commentary is by Joshua Hirsch, a noted Holocaust shill and fraud artist I’ve had words with before, I caught him in some deliberate deceptions about the movie NIGHT AND FOG. He stalks me and others on IMDB.com, working as a self-appointed policeman, demanding that posts pointing out Holofraud in popular films be deleted.

There’s no such thing as a “sergeant” in anybody’s navy. Wiemer was a petty officer. This is indeed an equivalent non-commissioned officer rank, but the use of the phrase by Hirsch tells me that he never actually talked to Wiemer about the provenance of the film or Wiemer’s actual position in the Kreigsmarine, but depended on whatever it was that the Israelis wrote. Hirsch's ignorance of common military ranks suggests he's ignorant of who was in charge on this day, and that is critical to determining who the people being shot are, and why.

Weimer was given permission to film in the area of the fleet? What fleet? In summer of 1941, Liepaja had only just been captured and secured by the Kreigsmarine. At the most, a few E-boats, most likely there was no “fleet” there at all, the base was being rebuilt.

If he was an “amateur” photographer, why did he have a Jew working with him to start up a special film lab? How did he pay him? Obviously, he was there in some official photographic capacity that Hirsch is either ignorant of, or is deceiving us about. Weimer's actual assignment at Liepaja, even his job in the navy is not detailed.

The victims showed up wearing yellow patches on their chests and back. Latvia wasn’t secured until Riga fell on July 4, and Jews from other countries were not shipped there until later in the year. I suppose it’s possible, but the film supposedly takes place in August, how did they get those patches on them in only one month?

The article also identifies the shooters as Einstatzgruppen, which is just not true.

Per the chain of command, it should be remembered that, in the Kreigsmarine, membership in the Nazi, or any other party, was forbidden. When you joined the navy, you had to give up any and all political party membership, so the German’s shooting people here are not Nazis. The Kreigsmarine was completely outside any Nazi Party or SS chain of command, so these people are undoubtedly being shot on the initiative of the Kreigsmarine. Jewish issues were nothing that the Kreigsmarine addressed, or even cared much about. The chances that this execution has anything to do with Jewish issues is very low to non-existent. Hitler’s Commissar Order was in effect and wasn’t rescinded until much later. Most likely these are local communists and communist collaboraters being shot, something that, if true, I applaud.

Finally, the article says that Wiemer's mother saved this and "his other films". I'd like to see those films, which, considering Wiemer's later posting to the U-Boatwaffe, undoubtedly come from the same time, and could provide some context.

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Postby Vallon » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:13 pm)

PLAYWRIGHT wrote:The victims showed up wearing yellow patches on their chests and back. Latvia wasn’t secured until Riga fell on July 4, and Jews from other countries were not shipped there until later in the year. I suppose it’s possible, but the film supposedly takes place in August, how did they get those patches on them in only one month?

Why should that be a problem? Liepaja was captured June 28/29. The Germans wasted no time issuing a decree against the Jews:
On 5 July 1941, in the pages of the Latvian newspaper Kurzemes Vards, the local military governor published a list of restrictions in effect for the Jews of Libau:

(1) All Jewish men, women and children are required to wear a yellow star on their chest and back. The minimal size of the star is ten centimeters by ten centimeters.
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Pinkas_ ... 00170.html

The Kreigsmarine was completely outside any Nazi Party or SS chain of command, so these people are undoubtedly being shot on the initiative of the Kreigsmarine.
Why would this be Kriegsmarine? It seems there are seamen among the public, but I do not see any active navy personnel there. Wiener's film was used in the trial of Georg Rosenstock and others.

Most likely these are local communists and communist collaboraters being shot, something that, if true, I applaud.
Also that would be a war crime.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:55 pm)

Not so fast.
Look at the film, those aren't even Jewish stars, they are square patches.

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Postby PLAYWRIGHT » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:09 pm)

Vallon wrote:Why should that be a problem? Liepaja was captured June 28/29. The Germans wasted no time issuing a decree against the Jews: (1) All Jewish men, women and children are required to wear a yellow star on their chest and back. The minimal size of the star is ten centimeters by ten centimeters.


You're right, that's probable. Quicker than I'd enforce it, but I'm not in charge of an occupation force. NOTE TO HANNOVER: I suppose they'd accept patches instead of stars, on a temporary basis.

Vallon wrote:Why would this be Kriegsmarine? It seems there are seamen among the public, but I do not see any active navy personnel there. Wiener's film was used in the trial of Georg Rosenstock and others.


I'd be surprised if this film was used in anybody's trial, since it's evidentiary value is highly limited. And Liepaja, being a naval base, was under Kriegsmarine command, and from it's perimeter gate nothing could happen there without navy authority. I can't imagine the SS using it for summary executions. First, because they'd need navy permission and cooperation, which they would never get, Grandadmiral Erich Raeder would never have let them on his turf for an instant; and second, there were places under SS authority where they could have done that sort of thing. Raeder's turf jealously alone clues me in that these people were probably executed under the Commissar Order, the only instance of Kreigsmarine execution of the order that I know of.

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PLAYWRIGHT wrote:Most likely these are local communists and communist collaboraters being shot, something that, if true, I applaud.
Also that would be a war crime.


The American Phoenix program in Vietnam basically did the same thing. A communist cadre among the civilians was considered to be an illegal combatant. I question the legality of this too, though note the military effectiveness. When fighting communism, the first people to go for are the party members and their cronies, if you cut off that head, the body dies, something the Brits discovered in Malaya. Don't forget the TV footage from the Tet Offensive, and the communist leader being shot in the head while handcuffed by Saigon's police chief, especially under those difficult combat conditions, nobody charged him with a crime.

The Germans had declared martial law, so if these people were local communist leaders, or Jews, who had initiated, cooperated with, or enforced the Soviet occupation, I don't immediately see a legal problem with their execution, provided they had been proven to be what they were accused to be. The Germans DID hold drumhead courts martials in territories they occupied, ascertaining for a fact that the persons they were dealing with were agents of the Soviet regime, and especially here, if the local Latvians identified them as such agents, it seems everything is in order. Jewish cooperation with the Soviet occupation led, in the end, to 1/2 of the population of Latvia being send to fates in Siberia that are still unknown, and both the Germans and the Latvians found the local prisons full of Latvian intelligentsia shot by the Russians during their retreat. If these people had any part in that, I'd cheerfully volunteer to shoot them myself.

Also, in a feeble attempt to stay on topic, I note that this film proves no existance of the Holocaust, the systematic extermination of Jews as a matter of state policy. Executions of civilians, summary or via drumhead courts martial, legal or illegal, are a feature of every war. The execution of Jews, if they were Jews, on the beach of Liepaja, is no proof of a state policy of extermination, any more than the mass hanging of Lakota Indians in Minnesota (VERY well documented with photographs) was proof of a policy of extermination there. Repression, yes. Extermination, no.

Meine Deutsch is nicht so gut. What was the outcome of Rosenstock's trial?

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Postby ClaudiaRothenbach » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:31 pm)

Hannover wrote:Not so fast.
Look at the film, those aren't even Jewish stars, they are square patches.

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You are right, Hannover.
Vallon posted a link to a German description of the film in the Bundesarchiv (Federal Archive).
http://www.cine-holocaust.de/cgi-bin/gdq?efw00fbw000799.gd

- 03,7 Männer, deren Kleider mit weißen viereckigen Stoffmarkierungen ...
(Men, whose clothes are marked with white quadrangular fabric patches, partly on the breast, partly on the back ...)


The Jews had to wear a yellow star in the breast. These guys are no Jews.

Shooting period (24. oder 25.07.1941)

Not 1944

Im Hintergrund viele Schaulustige, darunter Matrosen, Soldaten in Uniform, Jugendliche u. Kinder (In the background many sightseer, some are seamen, some soldiers in uniform, adolencents and children.)

Could not have been too secret.
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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:36 pm)

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NOTE TO HANNOVER: I suppose they'd accept patches instead of stars, on a temporary basis.

There's no basis for that.
Note what the decree specifically stated:
"All Jewish men, women and children are required to wear a yellow star on their chest and back. The minimal size of the star is ten centimeters by ten centimeters."

- The Jewish star is merely 2 triangles, easily made.
- The squares could simply have been indicators of a condemned criminal.

Thanks for the translation, Claudia.

I do realize that the saboteurs and illegal terrorists (often called "partisans") were largely Jews who in cowardice did not join the Soviet Army, and such that any legitimate executions could indeed happen to be Jews.

Then we must look at the number alleged in the bizarre Liepaja stories; thousands at time are alleged, not the few shown in this film. Then of course we have no alleged mass graves to show for these alleged 'thousands'. Not one.

To call this a 'holocau$t' film is indicative of the desperation of the profiteers.

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Postby Speeder » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:12 pm)

Pretty thin stuff indeed,

If I recall correctly this film shows 1 lorryload of unknown persons all adult males (no women or children) being shot in 2 groups and thats it. No sign of other prepared graves, or graves that are adjacent and have been filled in. I think the total shot is around 25.

To then go on and say its proof of several million is the work of a looney tune, but hold on, by their own admission its all they have got and therefore its their best shot.

The squares or patches may have another significance its not unusual for military firing squads to fire at a pre-defined target area on the victim usually marked by a patch of cloth or paper, these patches could well be target markers.

How a film showing the shooting of 25 or so unknowns is proof of a "holocaust" I do not know.

No wonder the USSHM has to resort to outright fraud with its film show, these are desperate people indeed, one would have more respect for them if they came clean and admitted they have been lying for over 60 years.

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Postby Vallon » 1 decade 4 years ago (Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:20 pm)

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Why would this be Kriegsmarine? It seems there are seamen among the public, but I do not see any active navy personnel there. Wiener's film was used in the trial of Georg Rosenstock and others.

I'd be surprised if this film was used in anybody's trial, since it's evidentiary value is highly limited.

According to a footnote in Hilberg's Perpetrators (source):
Testimony by Reinhard Wiener (in the German navy at the time), December 15, 1969, in the case against Erhard Grauel (Einsatzkommando 2) before a Hannover Court, 2 Js 261/60.
Wiener, who made a short clandestine film of these shootings, saw about two hundred spectators at the site.

And Liepaja, being a naval base, was under Kriegsmarine command, and from it's perimeter gate nothing could happen there without navy authority.
I think you are right. According to this article, the Navy was involved:
Liepaja had an ice-free port and a large naval base, and so it was the German Navy that took charge of the city. Several successive Navy commandants also had a major role in the atrocities of the first few months. On July 2, Korvettenkapitän Dr. Walter Stein warned the population that ten hostages would be killed for every act of sabotage, looting, or attack. He was succeeded by Fregattenkapitän Dr. Hans Kawelmacher, whose aide, Korvettenkapitän Fritz Brückner, amended this decree on July 8 by threatening to kill 100 hostages for every injured German soldier. On July 5, Brückner issued a set of draconian rules for Jews, including the requirement to wear yellow patches on their chest and backs. Thus marked, Jewish men became easy prey for daily manhunts by the Navy, SD, and Latvian police, and in the next two weeks, more than 300 Jews were shot. Many victims were conveniently seized on the Firehouse Square, where Jewish men between 16 and 60 had to report for work every morning.

Believing their own propaganda that Jews were the main pillars of the Soviet state, the Red Army, and the partisans, the Nazis ruthlessly killed Jewish men. They even killed them as "hostages" to retaliate for sniper attacks by manifestly non-Jewish partisans, failing to realize that this would hardly deter the latter, as solidarity between Jews and non-Jews was tenuous. The almost daily executions by SS or Navy firing squads with Latvian helpers were performed within the city limits, near the lighthouse and the beach. Often they were watched by hundreds of German soldiers and their sweethearts.
http://www.liepajajews.org/LGhetto.htm

Meine Deutsch is nicht so gut. What was the outcome of Rosenstock's trial?
Rosenstock got 2,5 years, Grauel got 6 years imprisonment.

Hannover wrote:Then we must look at the number alleged in the bizarre Liepaja stories; thousands at time are alleged, not the few shown in this film.
The thousands (including women and children) were killed later, in the winter.


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