Germania wrote:sailor, i fear your witchtrial comparison is even less then not justified. we are not talking about fantasy, but about something that can occur and occured, saddam gassed his kurds and americans have gaschambers. we are not talking about the middle age, but about constitutonal criminal procedings!!!
I don’t believe that the various German Holocaust trials will be very useful for the future historians, say in 100 or 200 years.
History is written differently. Not by lawyers. Does the name of the German historian Leopold von Renk mean anything to you? He set a couple of hundred years ago the standard for historic research in Germany.
And the German trials may have very well been politically/economically motivated and the defence may, no, must have been first of all interested to get their clients off the hook, or the least penalty. Regardless of what really happened.
I am not a lawyer and don’t want to get on slippery ice here.
Lets go back to the euthanasia gassings.
It seems that we don’t know the full testimony of the nurse P. Kneissler who said
»In the beginning the euthanasia was done by gassing«.
How do we know that in the sixties when she said this, that she was not influenced by the stories of the alleged homicidal gassings in Auschwitz? Or that her defence lawyer influenced her to say something like that?
You quote a statement by an “euthanasia doctor” during a trial in Frankfurt in 1961. You apparently have great confidence in the present German legal system. Maybe you are even a legal professional there yourself.
Could the doctors have used carbon-monoxide for euthanasia? Of course they could. Some people commit suicide with that stuff.
Did they actually use gas for euthanasia? I don’t know this. Well, if CO works so fine then why switch over to drugs and injections? Any idea?
That they had in Auschwitz with a total of about a million inmates a certain number of incurably mentally or physically sick stands to reason. And that they did euthanasia on some of them, I have no doubt about that.
Apparently the euthanasia of Auschwitz prisoners was not done in Auschwitz proper.
Hebden/Czech, first post:
… Following Dr. Schumman's orders, the transport is sent to Sonnerstein under the direction of Roll Call Leader Franz Hossler. A report to Hoss that Hossler makes after his return states that the prisoners were gassed in a bathroom where carbon monoxide gas was introduced through the showerheads.
Has anyone seen a copy of this report? Or was it made verbally? That concept of the shower heads seems rather silly to me.
I don’t think that these people were gassed, but probably killed by injection. D. Czech I think used the gassing idea in order to “support” the alleged homicidal gassings in the Auschwitz camp. But if we could take a look at the report, that may change our thinking.