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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:27 am)

Excellent observations, and so supremely basic ... no testimony about alleged Zyklon wire-mesh column withdrawal! But yet 'testimony' is the sacred text of the 'holocau$t' religion.

Hoisted by their own petard ... again.

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Re: Zyklon-B wire mesh insertion devices debunked

Postby Mulegino1 » 5 years 5 months ago (Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:01 pm)

From: AUSCHWITZ:
Technique and operation
of the gas chambers
Jean-Claude Pressac
© 1989, The Beate Klarsfeld Foundation
TRANSLATION OF DOC. NO. NI 9912
Office of Chief of Counsel for War Crimes

DIRECTIVES FOR THE USE OF PRUSSIC ACID (ZYKLON
FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF VERMIN (DISINFESTATION)


8. Open the cans and pour out their contents. The contents are to be spread thinly so that
the Zyklon can evaporate quickly and the necessary density of the gas can be achieved
as soon as possible. This process is to start on the top floor but the cellar is to be dealt
with before the ground floor, should the cellar have no exit. Rooms which have been
dealt with should as far as possible not be re-entered. The processing is to be done
slowly and calmly. The staircase particularly should only be used slowly. The processing
may only be interrupted in an emergency.


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Notice the instruction: “The contents are to be spread thinly so that the Zyklon can evaporate quickly and the necessary density of the gas can be achieved as soon as possible.”

Isn’t dropping the pellets down a narrow wire shaft so that they are all bunched up absolutely contrary to these technical instructions? Wouldn't it have resulted in a much longer time for evaporation of the HCN and the “necessary density” to be achieved? And wouldn't the fine wire mesh have impeded the outgassing even further?

The Germans, a people known for their technical prowess and ground breaking technology, were apparently unable to follow a simple instruction manual!

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Re: Zyklon-B wire mesh insertion devices debunked

Postby Dresden » 5 years 5 months ago (Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:54 pm)

Mulegino1 said:

"The Germans, a people known for their technical prowess and ground breaking technology, were apparently unable to follow a simple instruction manual!"

Either that, or the creators of the Hoax were technically inept.

My money is on the latter.
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Re: Zyklon-B wire mesh insertion devices debunked

Postby Mulegino1 » 5 years 5 months ago (Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:39 pm)

Indeed- this is what happens when the lie is created. It always needs more lies to cover the original one.

So they went from ovens and "special killing machines" to gas piped in from the dummy shower heads to pellets thrown on the floor to pellets dropped through wire mesh chutes. Technical ineptitude, as you say. But it plays in Hollywood each and every time!

Remember the tautological argument of Vidal-Naquet, which boils down to: "The gas chambers happened because they happened."

Every such historical myth needs its Procustres to force the facts to conform to the narrative, as opposed to building up the narrative from the facts.

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Re: Zyklon-B wire mesh insertion devices debunked

Postby hermod » 5 years 5 months ago (Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:52 pm)

Mulegino1 wrote:Notice the instruction: “The contents are to be spread thinly so that the Zyklon can evaporate quickly and the necessary density of the gas can be achieved as soon as possible.”

Isn’t dropping the pellets down a narrow wire shaft so that they are all bunched up absolutely contrary to these technical instructions? Wouldn't it have resulted in a much longer time for evaporation of the HCN and the “necessary density” to be achieved?


Yes, Mulegino. Zyklon B pellets agglutinated in a narrow movable basket at the center of Kula's columns would have released their cyanide content very slowly. Agglutination would have created an atmosphere highly saturated with HCN gas around the Zyklon B pellets. And such an atmosphere would have moved the physicochemical equilibrium of HCN from the gas phase into the liquid phase. Ilustration of this: when a bottle of ether is closed, an atmosphere of gaseous ether is formed above the liquid phase and most ether doesn't evaporate, but when the bottle is opened, no saturated atmosphere appears above the liquid and the entire content of the bottle evaporates very fast at room temperature.
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Re: Zyklon-B wire mesh insertion devices debunked

Postby Mulegino1 » 5 years 5 months ago (Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:32 pm)

Hermod wrote: "Yes, Mulegino. Zyklon B pellets agglutinated in a narrow movable basket at the center of Kula's columns would have released their cyanide content very slowly. Agglutination would have created an atmosphere highly saturated with HCN gas around the Zyklon B pellets. And such an atmosphere would have moved the physicochemical equilibrium of HCN from the gas phase into the liquid phase. Ilustration of this: when a bottle of ether is closed, an atmosphere of gaseous ether is formed above the liquid phase and most ether doesn't evaporate, but when the bottle is opened, no saturated atmosphere appears above the liquid and the entire content of the bottle evaporates very fast at room temperature."

I wonder what they were thinking when they made up the Kula columns story.

Perhaps now they'll go back to fake shower heads but this time, Zyklon-B pellets are dropped from the shower heads to a heated floor covered by a screen of fine mesh which served to prevent retrieval of the pellets by those to be gassed. Of course, when they evacuated the camp, the Germans removed the moveable floor as well as the heating panels to cover up the crime.

Speculating what tall tale they'll come up with next can be amusing.

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Re: Zyklon-B wire mesh insertion devices debunked

Postby Dresden » 5 years 5 months ago (Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:19 pm)

Mulegino1 said:

"Speculating what tall tale they'll come up with next can be amusing"

Just ask yourself: "Hmm.....I wonder what Rube Goldberg would do?"

You'll probably end up right in the Ball Park; as a matter of fact, the "Kula Columns" and "dummy shower heads" seem like something Rube Goldberg would come up with.
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Re: Zyklon-B wire mesh insertion devices debunked

Postby hermod » 5 years 5 months ago (Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:26 pm)

Mulegino1 wrote:I wonder what they were thinking when they made up the Kula columns story.


They patently didn't send the sharpest knives in the drawer to do the propaganda job for them.

More on the Kula column thing here: Kula column: What was the movable basket attached to?



Perhaps now they'll go back to fake shower heads but this time, Zyklon-B pellets are dropped from the shower heads to a heated floor covered by a screen of fine mesh which served to prevent retrieval of the pellets by those to be gassed. Of course, when they evacuated the camp, the Germans removed the moveable floor as well as the heating panels to cover up the crime.


Maybe.

They should have gone, from the very beginning, with big Degesch delousing machines blowing hot air through Zyklon B pellets in alleged homicidal gas chambers. They could have moved the gassing apparatus of any delousing train tunnel to Auschwitz and then install it in a large room there. I'm still wondering why they didn't opt for the German gassing technologies that existed at that time for delousing purposes. That would have been much easier and more credible.


Speculating what tall tale they'll come up with next can be amusing.


IMO, they won't come up with new things but with old allegations that had been dropped for decades. They are already doing it.
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Re: Zyklon-B wire mesh insertion devices debunked

Postby Atigun » 5 years 5 months ago (Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:33 pm)

How about they used the exhaust from a diesel engine taken from a captured Soviet tank to heat the Zyklon B.


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