Pauvre France wrote:I don't say that there's such a thing as a "minicaust". I say that there was a suspicion on likely human casualties in Treblinka, explainable by logistical constraints in a controversial operation, ie the resettlement of European Jews. I did not say that it happened, I say that is probable. In that context, the Lazarett would have been the only place where people could have died from euthanasia, accounting for the impossibility of transporting people who were already at the point of death. And of course, I agree with you that it requires a proof.
Yes, at this point, one can only speculate. A hint that the Lazarett story may have some kind of basis in reality is that it does not jam very well with the Treblinka extermination story. Surely, most or all of the deadly ill or aged that were taken to the Lazarett and shot could have been taken to the gas chambers, if there were gas chambers. Those unable to walk by themselves could have been carried/supported by other victims or by Arbeitsjuden. The Lazarett story negates rather than conform with the gas chamber story.
It seems like many of the details of the Treblinka Holocaust yarn arose from the realities of a transit camp. The "eye witnesses" and propagandists - not being gifted with much fantasy - either undeliberately misconstrued the real going-ons at the camp (some of them perhaps convincing themselves after the war that they had seen gas chambers etc) or plainly lied about them.
Pressac pointed out that the part of the (Treblinka phase I) story about the victims taking a bath before they went to the gas chambers is completely illogical in the context of gassings - why have the victims take a shower . Pressac showed how the arrangement of the baracks and the equipment therein corresponded to a delousing and desinfection installation, and, to appease the exterminationists, claimed that one of the baracks was later modified into a gas chamber. Graf & Mattogno discusses the Pressac hypothesis and finds it, sans modification-into-gas-chambers, to be reasonable.
The presence of a delousing chamber utilizing steam could of course be the root of the later discarded "steam chamber" yarn. Mattogno & Graf also speculates that there could have existed a desinfection installation were Zyklon B was used. Such a building would have had to be made by brick or concrete and could thus have served as a model/inspiration for the phase II gas chamber building ("Zyklon B" was at least once mentioned as killing agent at Treblinka but early on discarded along with the steam and vacuum chambers). I find this bit to be interesting but more speculative, since there are no records of Zyklon being shipped to Treblinka II.
This kind of mythomaniac transformation of life-saving facilities into murder machines could also account for other details in the "eye witness" testmonies. If the deportees also had their hair shaved off for sanitary purposes, this could, as "One Third of the Holocaust" points out, be the truth hiding behind the ridiculous claims of "gas chamber eye witness" Abraham Bomba. If one is allowed to speculate: Bomba actually cut/shaves off the hair of about 70 women inside some delousing barack, steps out of the chamber while the deportees are deloused and then let out through the door to the "clean side", the doors on the unclean side, where Bomba and his colleagues are waiting, opens up and, as Bomba tells, "the gas chamber is cleaned out" "only fives minutes" after he and the other "barbers" stepped out of it - nonsens in a homicidal gassing context, perfectly explainable in a delousing context. After all, why would the cutting/shaving of hair take place inside a homicidal gas chamber? And why shave the people that were going to be killed anyway? As to the absurdity of 90 people crammed into a bed room sized (4x4 m) room, Bomba probably skimmed through the Holocaust and then retrofitted his distorted real life experience to the dimensions of the alleged phase II gas chambers, without realizing - or perhaps surpressing to himself - the fact that the story did not make any sense.
Corpses from deportees who had died on the train and therefore had to be disposed at Treblinka were most likely burned within short notice (although some were probably also buried), possibly using "grills" similar to those alleged to have been used in mass incinerations by "eye witnesses". Such installations would be reasonable for burning a few dozens or perhaps hundreds of corpses now and then, but of course not very effective at all when cremating more than 700 000 half-rotten corpses.
Fuel for such small scale incinerations could probably be easily obtained from nearby communities, which may be the reason for the witnesses not explaining how the enormous amounts of seasoned wood that would have been necessary fore the alleged cremations were acquired, or discarding with the fuel altogether in their badly constructed yarns.