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Holocaust surivors demand conference invitation.

Postby Kiwichap » 1 decade 3 years ago (Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:08 pm)

Holocaust surivors demand conference invitation


31 August 2006

TEL AVIV - A group of Israeli Holocaust survivors want to travel to Tehran and attend a controversial conference on the Holocaust planned in December, the Israeli Yediot Ahronot daily reported Thursday.

Noah Flug, the chairman of the Centre for Holocaust Survivors Organizations in Israel, sent a letter to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad demanding an invitation to what he says will be a Holocaust denial conference.

"Invite us, Holocaust survivors from Israel, to the conference. This will be an opportunity to conduct a serious and thorough discussion on the issue," he wrote.

Flug also suggested Ahmadinejad visit the Auschwitz death camp.


"There we can show you from up close how the Nazi extermination machine worked and murdered more than one million people, Jews and also not Jews," he said.

Iran has already twice postponed the controversial conference, which is now due in December and among other topics is to discuss the root causes of anti-Semitism in Europe and the connection between the Holocaust and Zionism.

Observers expect that neo-Nazis from Germany will also be invited to the event.

media link http://www.expatica.com/source/site_art ... y_id=32707


We want to know the truth, what really happened, so I say, call their bluff. Give them an invitation and let them go.

All conferences are boring things and a little comedy should help lighten it up.

We can all have a laugh as we see talmudic clap-trap battle with science. scholorship and the obviousness of the hoax.

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Postby vincentferrer » 1 decade 3 years ago (Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:34 pm)

Invite the j-ws, and let them debate and tape it. Those videos would be great sellers.

Of course, these so called j-ws will never go, they are just making noice and posturing for attention.

Hook em all up to a lie detector, after all, they all claim to have met Dr.
Mengele.

What a party it would be.

Even if Iran invites these hoaxsters, the hoaxsters will place some demand on the trip and it will not happen.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 3 years ago (Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:48 pm)

Yeah, let them go to Iran, good idea.

They can stomp their feet and tell us all about the human soap, the steam chambers, the mass electrocutions on floors that sunk into water, 10 minute cremations, 5 minute gassings, and just maybe they can tell us why there are no mass graves as alleged and why the storyline is based upon assertions which are utterly impossible. What a laugh.
Invite the j-ws, and let them debate and tape it. Those videos would be great sellers.

... will never go, they are just making noice and posturing for attention.

Hook em all up to a lie detector, after all, they all claim to have met Dr.
Mengele.

Even if Iran invites these hoaxsters, the hoaxsters will place some demand on the trip and it will not happen.

Exactly. They been bluffing ever since 1945, they're bluffing now.
Besides, there's no money in it for them.
Observers expect that neo-Nazis from Germany will also be invited to the event.

Yawn.
Do tell, who are these observers?

'neo-Nazi' / 'antisemitic':
any person or any thought that a Jew doesn't like

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Postby Depth Charge » 1 decade 3 years ago (Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:13 pm)

We can't rule out the possibility that their intentions are solely to disrupt the conference, so that the focus is laid upon them and their grieving, as opposed to provocative findings.

Its a clever call on their part. If they are invited, they will attempt to disrupt it beyond having a worthwhile effect. If they aren't invited, they will cry foul and broadcast it with their NWO machine.

Either way, i can't personally i believe they are asking for this for genuine reasons.

On the chance that they are, then i would say yes, let them attend, so long as they can properly conduct themselves.

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Postby Goethe » 1 decade 3 years ago (Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:24 pm)

I agree. Let them attend and make asses of themselves with their preposterous fantasies.
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Postby Charles Krafft » 1 decade 3 years ago (Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:17 pm)

What's the deal on this Iranian Holocaust Conference, anyway? How come revisionists are totally in the dark on it? Supposing one had the money to fly themselves there as an observer/attendee. How are you supposed to plan a travel strategy (to avoid opening yourself up to a Homeland Security check) to get to Tehran for this "conference" if no dates, locations or source of information for same have been announced? How come a gaggle of survivors in Israel seem to be more on in top of things than revisionists around the globe? And what's with Toben's travel snapshots of Tehran? Was that an alternative Iranian Holocaust conference he attended? For a cocky nation whose president is an an admitted skeptic it sure is being sketchy about it's big bad Holocaust conference. Have any revisionists been officially invited to attend? If so, who are they and who invited them?

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Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 3 years ago (Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:29 pm)

The media will use that for years: "Have Ahmanidajad visit the camp." Knowing full well that a team of Iranian scientists tried to visit the camp and were turned down.

Let Irving visit the camp! Oh yeah, he's not allowed to. But hey, maybe the media can call for Irving to visit the camp as well! The media is not about truth it's about weird psychological angles.

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Postby Breker » 1 decade 3 years ago (Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:35 am)

Mr. Krafft seems to be somewhat worked up. We must ask then if he plans on attending when the details become known.

As for an exact schedule of events, perhaps the Iranians have not finalized matters.

How would Mr. Krafft know that Revisionists have not been invited? We tend to think that any well known Revisionist would be somewhat mum about their travel plans simply because they are subject to arrest upon stopping in one of the countries which seize such individuals. Or perhaps we should use the Israeli-centric media description, kidnap.

We see nothing to indicate that the erroneously named "survivors" know more than anyone else.

We also think Dr. Toben's photos are quite nice. They reveal rather more than Mr. Krafft is apparently aware of. We suggest:
http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Iran/2006.htm
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Postby Richard Perle » 1 decade 3 years ago (Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:00 am)

I imagine the Jews would get a thorough coaching before they would be sent to the conference. Can't let them embarrass themselves and the Industry with tales that are too extreme.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 3 years ago (Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:18 am)

I imagine the Jews would get a thorough coaching before they would be sent to the conference. Can't let them embarrass themselves and the Industry with tales that are too extreme.

Coaching or no coaching, anything they could say has already been demolished. Of course they could change the storyline .... again.
The more these phoney 'survivors' talk, the bigger the record of easily debunked nonsense. I say these unethical beggars should go to Iran and be further exposed.

The 'holocau$t' Industry has met their enemy, it's themselves.

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Postby ClaudiaRothenbach » 1 decade 3 years ago (Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:58 am)

Flug also suggested Ahmadinejad visit the Auschwitz death camp.

"There we can show you from up close how the Nazi extermination machine worked and murdered more than one million people, Jews and also not Jews," he said.


This is just propaganda. Ahmadinejad told the world that he would like very much to visit Auswitch - but the Polnish pres would not let him.

On the other hand: I would also be interested to know how "the machine worked". And the proofs "from up close".
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Postby Kiwichap » 1 decade 3 years ago (Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:21 pm)

We have all heard such like:

Lipstadt refused to testify on the grounds that she would not debate a Holocaust denier... I will not dignify them with answers.

Why I Don't Debate Holocaust Deniers by Prof Sanford Pinsker

If Van Pelt will not debate or enter into a discussion with the people he is targeting...

Christopher Browning, Ph.D., does not debate Holocaust deniers ...

Not ignoring the deniers does not mean engaging them in debate; it means not doing that. We cannot debate them for two reasons, one strategic and the other tactical..

I told them that I did not debate deniers...

"It is the policy of ... organizations across Canada that we do not debate such people. Their position on ... the Holocaust does not merit debate, nor do we intend to give them either the credibility or the platform that debating provides.

I will not debate the Holocaust, the extent of the Holocaust or the truth of the Holocaust with you.


And we know why.

The exterminationist historians dare not debate. That is Lipstadt's supreme maxim. They tell the world how they have triumphed and how ridiculous the revisionists are, while making certain the revisionists are locked up, and calling for Prof. Arthur Butz to be removed from his teaching post at Northwestern University. Hoaxers like Lipstadt are frozen with terror at the prospect of having to cross swords with an Irving or a Rudolf.
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/davidirving.html


We can also say 'Hoaxers are frozen with terror at the prospect of having to cross swords with any informed revisionist'.

I don't think we will be seeing any jewish hoaxers at the conference. (set for December 11th) The cult mentality will pressure them into not attending. The cult always look out for themselves. The cult know they are lying. The cult dare not debate.

The scam is too profitable. Oy Vey.
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Postby Charles Krafft » 1 decade 3 years ago (Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:47 pm)

“ Even Algazeera should gets its facts straight. Commenting on Iranian leader Almadinejad's comments that Israel should be ‘wiped off the map’ and that the Holocaust is grossly exaggerated it says, ' Those remarks prompted a global outpouring of condemnation'. 'Global condemnation' ?, hardly. There was obviously no such condemnation from the Islamic portion of the globe which embraces perhaps a fifth of mankind. I was also unaware of any criticism coming out of China, India, Japan or Korea who together account for almost half of the human race. Sub Sahara Africa and Latin America were also silent as far as I recall as was Russia and Eastern Europe. There ain't much left of the globe after that except for the United States, Canada, Western Europe and of course Israel. “ -G. Furiouso

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ ... 57BEC1.htm

Iran to Examine Holocaust Evidence

Sunday 03 September 2006, 12:49 Makka Time, 9:49 GMT

Iran says it will go ahead and sponsor a conference in the autumn to examine the scientific evidence supporting the Holocaust, dismissing it as exaggerated.

The move to proceed with the controversial conference, likely to deepen Tehran's international isolation, came as Kofi Annan, the UN secretary general, raised concerns with Iranian officials over an exhibition of cartoons about the Holocaust.
Ahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, has already called the Nazis' Second World War slaughter of six million European Jews a myth and said that the Jewish state should be wiped off the map or moved to Germany or the United States. Those remarks prompted a global outpouring of condemnation.
Hamid Reza Asefi, Iran's foreign ministry spokesman, said on Sunday that because the Holocaust was a scientific issue, both opponents and proponents of the existence of the Holocaust could participate.
"God willing, a conference on the Holocaust will be held in the autumn. The Holocaust is not a sacred issue that one can't touch," he told reporters. "I have visited the Nazi camps in Eastern Europe. I think it is exaggerated," Asefi said.
Asefi did not disclose where the Holocaust conference would be held, or who would attend it. Iran first raised the possibility of the conference in January.
Annan brought up the exhibit that opened in response to Muslim outrage over the Prophet Muhammad caricatures in talks on Saturday with Manouchehr Mottaki, Iran's foreign minister, said Ahmad Fawzi, Annan's spokesman.
Annan told Mottaki that "we should avoid anything that incites hatred" according to Fawzi.

The Holocaust cartoon exhibit opened last month at Tehran's Caricature House, with 204 entries from Iran and abroad.
The cartoons were submitted after the exhibit's co-sponsor, the Hamshahri newspaper, said it wanted to test the West's tolerance for drawings about the Nazis' mass murder of European Jews during the Second World War. The entries on display came from nations including the United States, Indonesia and Turkey.
Ahmadinejad has waged a campaign against Israel since he took office in August last year, adopting rhetoric reminiscent of Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, who deposed Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi in the 1979 Islamic revolution. Israel had backed the shah, apparently prompting Khomeini to term it the "Little Satan."


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