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Hitler Quote ? - 30 January 1939 Reichstag speech

Postby rahulkghosh » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:49 pm)

I was reading through http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/ ... cJewQn.htm

One quote that caught my eye was:

"Today I will once more be a prophet: If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe! "

I looked at the source and saw "Speech by Adolf Hitler, January 31, 1939.
Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuremberg Military Tribunals - Washington, U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1949-1953, Vol XIII, p. 131"

Anyone have any comments about the validity of any of the quotes?

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:08 pm)

Do you have the actual German text instead of someone's 'translation'?

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Postby Depth Charge » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:15 pm)

rahulkghosh wrote:I was reading through http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/ ... cJewQn.htm

One quote that caught my eye was:

"Today I will once more be a prophet: If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe! "

I looked at the source and saw "Speech by Adolf Hitler, January 31, 1939.
Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuremberg Military Tribunals - Washington, U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1949-1953, Vol XIII, p. 131"

Anyone have any comments about the validity of any of the quotes?


I'm sure the quotes are sturdy enough - but i'm not going to vouch for that, but either way they are deliberately misconstrued. Hitlers political and public nature was to rant and rave. The word "annihilation" was just a favourite weapon of Hitlers rhetoric, i'm pretty sure he used it several times against Russia and britain.

Goebbels gets the same treatment in several places AFAIK with the exact same word.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:26 pm)

The USSR's Khrushchev said to the US in a speech at the UN:
We will bury you!


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Postby Depth Charge » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:55 pm)

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/a ... oryid=6774

I found this quite interesting, it appears they're so desperate to have Ahmadinejad fill Hitlers shoes that they're now making him sound like him;

The radical president who in December called for Israel to be “wiped off the map”* said on Friday that the Jewish state was “heading towards annihilation”.


*Which was of course and out and out lie, Ahmadinejad said nothing of the sort. As for the latter, who knows what he originally said, nevermind actually meant. That is if he said anything at all.

^^ Just an example of how blatantly manipulative/exploitative/downright deceitful the "traditional enemies of free speech" can be when it comes to language barriers.

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Postby Kiwichap » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:06 pm)

Rabbi calls for annihilation of Arabs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1270038.stm
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Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:15 am)

There's a whole thread on that quote here. I point out what Hitler's longtime friend Julius Streicher said about that quote from that speech:

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=3092

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Postby Daniel Saez Lorente » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:40 pm)

rahulkghosh wrote:I was reading through http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/ ... cJewQn.htm

One quote that caught my eye was:

"Today I will once more be a prophet: If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe! "

I looked at the source and saw "Speech by Adolf Hitler, January 31, 1939.
Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuremberg Military Tribunals - Washington, U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1949-1953, Vol XIII, p. 131"

Anyone have any comments about the validity of any of the quotes?


The quotation is correct but taken out of context. The speech is very long and makes it very clear that when any such hypothetical war is over, the Jews are still going to be around but that their power will have been destroyed through the educational efforts of National Socialism and Italian fascism. I am sure that most of the speech is on line somewhere. I can probably find a good discussion of it with exact quotes. The verb is "Vernichtung". Everybody talks about Hitler but nobody actually reads his speeches or listens to them. Let me know if you want more info.

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Postby Daniel Saez Lorente » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:05 pm)

Daniel Saez Lorente wrote:
rahulkghosh wrote:I was reading through http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/ ... cJewQn.htm

One quote that caught my eye was:

"Today I will once more be a prophet: If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe! "

I looked at the source and saw "Speech by Adolf Hitler, January 31, 1939.
Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuremberg Military Tribunals - Washington, U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1949-1953, Vol XIII, p. 131"

Anyone have any comments about the validity of any of the quotes?


The quotation is correct but taken out of context. The speech is very long and makes it very clear that when any such hypothetical war is over, the Jews are still going to be around but that their power will have been destroyed through the educational efforts of National Socialism and Italian fascism. I am sure that most of the speech is on line somewhere. I can probably find a good discussion of it with exact quotes. The verb is "Vernichtung". Everybody talks about Hitler but nobody actually reads his speeches or listens to them. Let me know if you want more info.


Hitler was also addicted to using the words "war", "destruction" and "annihiliation" in purely figurative ways, but in context the meaning is very clear. For sample, in his first speech as Reichschancellor on February 10, 1933, he repeatedly describes how he decided to go into politics in 1919-1920 to begin a "war" against "Marxism" and all "its accompanying phenomena". The words "to begin this war" were taken out of context and broadcast on TV recently against a backdrop of the ruined German cities in 1945!
In another speech, he said he was prepared to fight a "hundred-year war" (!) to "annihilate and destroy" -- not people, or countries -- but "this poisoning of the peoples" (!!). "Einen hundert-jährigen Krieg, um diese Volksvergiftung auszurotten und zu vernichten". In context the meaning is very clear.
Many great writers have been addicted to grotesque exaggeration, for example, Shakespeare. These things must be read in context. No doubt for this reason, the complete speeches are difficult to obtain. MY NEW ORDER is the only cheap edition of them I know of, about 15 dollars at abebooks.com.

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Postby Daniel Saez Lorente » 1 decade 2 years ago (Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:23 pm)

The first quote is featured in German at the end of the film DER EWIGE JUDE, filmed in 1940. The original is "die Vernichtung der judische Rasse in Europa". "The destruction of the Jewish race in Europe".

So the quote is authentic. Very concrete, a real threat.
But the speech makes it very clear that they are still going to be alive after the war. But that their power will be destroyed.

The phrase "in einem hundertjährigen Krieg um diese Volksvergiftung and Volksvernarrung auszurotten und zu vernichten" appears in Hitler's speak of 13 July 1934 after the Röhm Putch.

How does one "exterminate and destroy" a "poisoning and stupefication of the people"? This is as abstract as one can possibly get. He isn't even referring to destruction of the AGENTS of the poisoning and stupefication of the peoples, but to "exterminating and destroying" the "poisoning and stuperfication" itself!

In fact, the agents of "people-poisoning and stupefication were the Marxists and other Communists. Hitler didn't spend all his time talking about Jews. In fact, he rarely mentions them. I know nobody will believe this, but it is the truth. He didn't spend all his time talking about Jews.

As I say, when you actually listen to these speeches, you really don't notice these things, because they fit perfectly, in context. Out of context, it seems very strange for anyone to go around saying things like this.

No doubt much of what we say sounds strange to other people in translation, for example, "God's Own Country" or "My Country, Right or Wrong", "Britannia Rules the Waves", etc. etc., phrases leading to similar misunderstandings in the minds of other nationalities.

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Postby _Mads_ » 1 decade 2 years ago (Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:36 pm)

Daniel Saez Lorente wrote:In another speech, he said he was prepared to fight a "hundred-year war" (!) to "annihilate and destroy" -- not people, or countries -- but "this poisoning of the peoples" (!!). "Einen hundert-jährigen Krieg, um diese Volksvergiftung auszurotten und zu vernichten".


A quite interesting examle of the use of these words, "vernichten" and "ausrotten".

I found some Hitler speeches at youtube. In one speech to the German youth, Hitler recommends being "peaceful, and at the same time courageous". "Friedfertig - und mutig zugleich!"

Certainly, the propaganda wouldn´t like us to know that Hitler had mentioned being peaceful as a virtue.

I cannot find the speech again now, unfortunately.

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Postby Haldan » 1 decade 2 years ago (Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:30 pm)

_Mads_ wrote:I cannot find the speech again now, unfortunately.


That speech can be heard and seen by watching Leni Riefenstahl's documentary Triumph des Willens / Triumph of the Will.

There are a couple of torrents available but most of them are in poor quality, I managed to find one which is supposed to be good quality:

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3725065

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Postby Haldan » 1 decade 2 years ago (Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:37 pm)

If you use the above copy of Triumph des Willens the segment will start at exactly fourty four minutes and fifty seven seconds (44:57).

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Hitler's 30 January 1939 Reichstag speech

Postby Lamprecht » 3 weeks 5 days ago (Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:16 pm)

This is an old thread, but I guess it's fine to bump it with additional information.

Perhaps the most often quoted speech from Hitler to prove the Holocaust is the one made on 30 January 1939 in the Reichstag:
"Today I will once more be a prophet: If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more in to a world war, then the result will not be the Bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation ["Vernichtung"] of the Jewish race in Europe".
Some revisionists have argued that "Vernichtung" (literally: "bringing to nothing") does not necessarily mean killing. What is often not quoted though is what Hitler stated after:
For the time when the non-Jewish nations had no propaganda is at an end. National Socialist Germany and Fascist Italy have institutions which enable them when necessary to enlighten the world about the nature of a question of which many nations are instinctively conscious, but which they have not yet clearly thought out. [...] If this [Jewish] nation should once more succeed in inciting the millions which compose the nations into a conflict which is utterly senseless and only serves Jewish interests, then there will be revealed the effectiveness of an enlightenment which has completely routed the Jews in Germany in the space of a few years. The nations are no longer willing to die on the battlefield so that this unstable international race may profiteer from a war or satisfy its Old Testament vengeance.
Full speech is here:
PDF: https://archive.org/details/AdolfHitler ... 39_201905/
TXT: https://archive.is/Us2kt

Hitler referred to this "prophecy" in a later speech on 30 January 1941:
"And I should like to repeat the warning that I have already once given, on September 1, 1939 [correct: Jan. 30, 1939], in the German Reichstag: namely, the warning that if Jewry drives the world into a general war, the role Jewry plays in Europe will be all over!"


Hitler stated on 25 October 1941:
From the rostrum of the Reichstag I prophesied to Jewry that if war could not be avoided, the Jews would disappear from Europe. That race of criminals already had on its conscience the two million dead of the Great War, and now it has hundreds of thousands more. Let nobody tell me that despite that [we] cannot park them in the marshy parts of Russia! Our troops are there as well, and who worries about them!


On 23 November 1942, Himmler proclaimed in a speech in Bad Tölz:
The Jewish question in Europe has completely changed. The Führer once said in a Reichstag speech: If Jewry triggers an international war, for example, to exterminate the Aryan people, then it won’t be the Aryans who will be exterminated, but Jewry. The Jews have been resettled outside Germany, they are living here, in the east, and are working on our roads, railways etc. This is a consistent process, but is conducted without cruelty.


On 3 January 1943, Goebbels’s diary referred to:
"the Führer’s prophecy, when he explained at the beginning of the war that it would not end with the destruction (Vernichtung) of the Aryan race, but with the expulsion (Austreibung) of Jewry from Europe."


Also:
At the Irving-Lipstadt libel trial it was conceded by Lipstadt’s team of anti-revisionist Holocaust experts that prior to 1941 there was no Nazi policy to exterminate Jewry. Justice Gray noted: “It is common ground between the parties [Irving and Lipstadt’s team of Holocaust experts] that, until the latter part of 1941, the solution to the Jewish question which Hitler preferred was their mass deportation.”56 The anti-revisionist experts at the Irving-Lipstadt libel trial further admitted: “…that in the 1930s Hitler should not be understood to have been speaking in a genocidal terms.”57
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56. See Judge Gray’s “Judgment” in the Irving-Lipstadt libel trial, online: https://archive.is/sFd8u, paragraph 13.26.

57. Ibid, paragraph 13.27.
From:
In Defense of Holocaust Revisionism: A Response to Shermer and Grobman's Denying History
http://www.vho.org/tr/2002/1/tr09denyhist.html

From another thread:
Lamprecht wrote:Arthur Butz:
"Very often the Jews were referred to via the German word das Judentum, one of whose correct translation is 'Jewry,' but which can also mean 'Judaism,' or even 'Jewishness' or 'idea of Jewishness.' Thus, a Hitler reference to 'die Vernichtung des Judentums,' if lifted out of context and interpreted in a purely literal way, can be interpreted as meaning the killing of all Jews, but it can also be interpreted as meaning the destruction of Jewish influence and power, which is what the politician Hitler actually meant by such a remark, although it is true that he could have used his words more carefully. Alfred Rosenberg made specific reference to this ambiguity in his IMT testimony, where he argued that 'die Ausrottung des Judentums,' a term he had used on occasion, was not a reference to killing in the context in which Rosenberg had used it."

SOURCE: Arthur R. Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century: The Case Against the Presumed Extermination of European Jewry (Theses & Dissertations Press, 2003), p. 97. Online: http://vho.org/GB/Books/thottc/



In the Irving trial, the Judge Charles Gray, after hearing testimony from both sides, in his final judgment said:
"Much time was spent in evidence and argument on discussing the meaning and true significance of a number of German words to be found in the speeches of Hitler and others in contemporaneous documents generally. There was a prolonged cross-examination of Longerich [one of Penguin Books's and Lipstadt's expert witnesses] by Irving as to the meaning of certain German words which he listed in a glossary prepared for the purpose of these proceedings. Those words include ausrotten, vernichten, liquidieren, evakuieren, umsiedeln and abschieben. A considerable number of documents were scrutinized in an attempt to ascertain whether the words in question were being used or understood in a genocidal sense. Irving contended that most of these words are properly to be understood in a non-genocidal sense. Longerich agreed that most, if not all, of these words are capable of being used in a non-genocidal sense. For example, ausrotten can bear such anodyne meanings as 'get rid of' or 'wipe out' without connoting physical extermination. But he asserted that its usual and primary meaning is 'exterminate' or 'kill off,' especially when applied to people or to a group of people as opposed to, for example, a religion. He contended that all depends on the context in which the words are used."

SOURCE: Charles Gray, Holocaust Denial on Trial, Trial Judgment: Electronic Edition. Section 6.107. Online: https://web.archive.org/web/20071107000 ... ment/06.16






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Re: Hitler Quote ?

Postby Hannover » 3 weeks 5 days ago (Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:03 am)

If Hitler had been intent on "exterminating Jews in Europe":

1. He certainly could have and obviously did not, as this forum has proven, and as so many "survivors / eyewitnesses" have proven over and over again.
2, Real & actual German documents demolish the the '6,000,000 Jews' Zionist propaganda. Examples here:
On the Jewish Question, real & verifiable documents demolish the ridiculous 'extermination' claims:
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"Mr Reich Minister Lammers informed me that the Führer had repeatedly declared to him that he wants to hear that the Solution of the Jewish Problem has been postponed until after the war is over. That being so, the current discussions are of purely theoretical value, in Mr Reich Minister Lammers' opinion. He will moreover take pains to ensure that, whatever else happens, no fundamental decisions are taken without his knowledge in consequence of a surprise briefing by any third party."

Document's origins. Schlegelberger's undated minute on Lammer's reference to Hitler's ruling is in German Federal Archives (BA) file R.22/52. It was sent to Staatssekretär Freisler and two other officials (bottom left). This document has been published in facsimile in David Irving's books Hitler's War, Goebbels. Mastermind of the Third Reich, and Nuremberg, the Last Battle. It was definitely dated March or April 1942. Lammers was in Berlin on April 26, 1942. See Scheel's report on a talk between Lammers and Meissner after the final session that day (T175/139/7479 et seq.)

in support of the Schlegelberger Document see the Luther Memorandum:
http://www.codoh.com/library/document/154/
Hitler, the 'Final Solution,' and the Luther Memorandum
A Response to Evans and Longerich
excerpt:
"On the occasion of a reception by the Reich Foreign Minister on 26 November 1941 the Bulgarian Foreign Minister Popoff touched on the problem of according like treatment to the Jews of European nationalities and pointed out the difficulties that the Bulgarians had in the application of their Jewish laws to Jews of foreign nationality."

"The Reich Foreign Minister answered that he thought this question brought by Mr. Popoff not uninteresting. Even now he could say one thing to him, that at the end of the war all Jews would have to leave Europe. This was the unalterable decision of the Fuehrer and also the only way to master this problem, as only a global and comprehensive solution could be applied and individual measures would not help very much."
and:
Hitler, July 24, 1942:
"The Jews are interested in Europe for economic reasons, but Europe must reject them, if only out of self-interest, because the Jews are racially tougher. After this war is over, I will rigorously hold to the view ... that the Jews will have to leave and emigrate to Madagascar or some other Jewish national state."
- source: H. Picker, Hitlers Tischgesprche im Fuehrerhaupt quartier (Stuttgart: 1976), p. 456. Also mentioned in Gerald Reitlinger, The Final Solution: (Jacob Aronson, Inc., 1987), p. 78.
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