grenadier wrote:Laurentz, I'd like to ask you if you could start a thread on A.Donat's book, same as you have with Rashke's.
It is my understanding the book is mostly contributions from several
Jewish survivors from Treblinka including Wiernik.
I have Wiernik's book but Donat's compilation is very hard to find and
too expensive anyway.
I am very curious as to what these other survivors claimed re the
mass gassing procedures at Treblinka.
Would it be possible for you to share that info with the rest of us here?
I don't own the book. I just have copies of some of the pages (the Wiernik account, which is available online) that a friend sent to me. I am saving money right now to buy the book. A you mentioned it's out of print and used copies cost about 100 USD. Once I get it I will start a thread, if now one does it before me. I believe some users here have access to the book. Sorry to disappoint you!
Btw the hard/impossible-to-find books always seems to be the most interesting ones, or rather, the most embarrassing to the Holocaust high priests. I am also searching for a copy of Bernard (or Ber) Mark's The Scrolls of Auschwitz
. Pretty hard to find a copy of that too.
Btw, did Weber get back to you on the source to Wagner claiming
Sobibor had been a model work camp and not an extermination camp?
Not a single line!
I think I will have through checking through all 1978-1980 Le Monde issues by myself, when I have time left over.
This stuff about the assisted suicide of Gustav Franz Wagner in Brazil reminds of an article which appeared last year in the most influential Brazilian newspaper, the São Paulo based "Folha de São Paulo".
The sensationalist headline read "São Paulo's police protected Nazi
The article claimed that the police had protected one Herbert Cukurs,
a Latvian aviator and collaborator of the Nazis during wwII and that
this had been a discovery of a Brazilian university student from
USP(University of São Paulo) named Erick Godliauskas Zen
researching the archives of DOPS.
According to the story, Cukurs had emigrated to Brazil after the war
and started a business in Rio de Janeiro under his own name.
In Rio, 1960, 2 survivors named Frida Schmuskovits and
Josef Gavrowski recognized Cukurs as the the commander of the "Perkonkrust", a "facist" outfit which on orders from Herbert
Cukurs allegedly commited 2 massacres in Riga in 1941,
massacres that supposedly cost 25-30.000 Jewish lives.
According to Cukurs son, the Jews in Rio put his father out of
business and Cukurs then moved to the state of São Paulo,
in the southeast of Brazil.
In the capital city, also named São Paulo, Cukurs stroke friendship
with several Brazilian air force officers.
It seems that the Jewish community in São Paulo, the most numerous
in Brazil, started harassing him and his family and thus the police posted a couple of men to protect his house.
Then, Cukurs received a business proposal from some people in
Uruguay, a country to the south of Brazil, but he would have to go
He discussed it with his friends from the air force who advised him not
to go as they thought it could be a set up.
This was in 1965. Enticed by the proposal, Cukurs ended up travelling
to Uruguay where he was murdered with gun shots and hammer blows.
Cukurs had never been tried, let alone convicted of anything but for
the newspaper he was already guilty and a nazi butcher.
Cukurs son, a truck driver from São paulo, told the newspaper his father
had told him and his family he was innocent and had not murdered
any Jews during the war.
Thank you for sharing this story. Very illuminating.