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Postby Radar » 1 decade 3 years ago (Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:15 pm)

Beware of "Eric Hunt"! Anyone who thinks that the way to confront Elie Wiesel is to drag him off an elevator into a hotel room to extract a "confession" from him is a psychopath and no friend of serious revisionism. Mr. Hunt, if it was indeed he who wrote the report, was setting himself and his cause up for a fall - and ultimate arrest for himself. I too am suspicious about the whole affair but I imagine something stupid happened. Why, we'll find out.

I notice on a quick look that "Hunt's" name does not seem to be associated with the Australian site, Ziopedia, which first published his report. They are anti-Zionist but don't seem to be in the Hunt camp.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 3 years ago (Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:33 pm)

Radar wrote:Beware of "Eric Hunt"! Anyone who thinks that the way to confront Elie Wiesel is to drag him off an elevator into a hotel room to extract a "confession" from him is a psychopath and no friend of serious revisionism. Mr. Hunt, if it was indeed he who wrote the report, was setting himself and his cause up for a fall - and ultimate arrest for himself. I too am suspicious about the whole affair but I imagine something stupid happened. Why, we'll find out.

I notice on a quick look that "Hunt's" name does not seem to be associated with the Australian site, Ziopedia, which first published his report. They are anti-Zionist but don't seem to be in the Hunt camp.

The entire affair seems gefilte fishy.

We have a mysterious 'Eric Hunt' involved in an event that is hardly a vicious attack, but described as such.

I may be wrong, but this seems like a set-up for hanging the label of 'violent threat' on those who have debunked the 'holocaust'; hence paving the way for a 'holocaust denial' law in the US.

The question that should be asked is; would evidence that this is a fraud see the light of day?

If Hunt is real, then clearly he's outside the mainstream of Revisionists. Let's see what comes of this.

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Postby Radar » 1 decade 3 years ago (Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:53 pm)

Hannover,

You raise a chilling possibility about this whole thing being propaganda for a "Holocaust denial" legal assault in the United States. That would be typical of the Holocaust Industry and in line with the hysterical but calculated attacks on Jimmy Carter's book as allegedly stirriring up anti-Semitism.

It is possible that "Hunt" will have escaped never to be located, leaving Wiesel's story as the only "evidence" of this new outburst of "anti-Semitism". Alan Dershowitz, Abe Foxman and the rest of the baying crowd will be loudly heard from. Yes, it is all possible. And does anyone think Congress will stand up to this lynch mob!

It is true that European type anti-free speech laws would face formidable legal constitutional challenges in our country because of our First Amendment, but remember they would stand until overturned in costly and time-consuming legal proceedings. Furthermore, given the sad state of our Justice Department and Federal Judiciary one cannot be sure that they would be overturned, certainly not soon.

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Postby Rapier » 1 decade 3 years ago (Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:24 am)

The sixth floor?

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Postby diaz52 » 1 decade 3 years ago (Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:39 am)

Radar wrote:Beware of "Eric Hunt"! Anyone who thinks that the way to confront Elie Wiesel is to drag him off an elevator into a hotel room to extract a "confession" from him is a psychopath and no friend of serious revisionism. Mr. Hunt, if it was indeed he who wrote the report, was setting himself and his cause up for a fall - and ultimate arrest for himself. I too am suspicious about the whole affair but I imagine something stupid happened. Why, we'll find out.

I notice on a quick look that "Hunt's" name does not seem to be associated with the Australian site, Ziopedia, which first published his report. They are anti-Zionist but don't seem to be in the Hunt camp.


Leaving aside whether the essay has anything to do with the attack, two things appear right off the bat, which have been mentioned previously:

1.) The date of the attack was on February 1st and yet the story broke on Feb 9th. So why the delay in the News coverage of this? Someone as politically and media savvy as The Weasel & his kind have the media at his beck and call. So why the delay? Also this is certainly the kind of story the media eats up... So why would there be a delay?

2.) The attack was thwarted by.... screaming? Its a pretty likely thing to happen when you suddenly attack someone... whoever planned this attack couldn't see that probability? Its fishy all right.

I hope the assessment that we'll find out is right. This certainly appears to be the kind of story that the media and the establishment won't quickly tire of. It has all the right villains and all the right heroes that the media loves to see. Or it may just fade away, and just remain to be used by the media as yet another sinister example of "growing anti-semitism," etc...
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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 3 years ago (Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:25 pm)

Or it may just fade away, ...

If it does fade away we'll know the whole thing is BS. If they continue to push the story as is, even Joe Public may start asking questions.

This has all the earmarks of other alleged 'antisemitic attacks', where the accuser makes a claim, there is no arrest, no proof, no conviction in a court of law, only some nutjob's self serving allegations. But yet judeo-supremacists will whine, kvetch, and claim it as an 'antisemitic hate crime'. They then count it as a statistic, which they claim as 'proof'. Garbage in, garbage out.

When anyone reads about the 'rise in antisemitic hate crimes', remember, there is no proof to back it up.

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Postby Ajax » 1 decade 3 years ago (Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:21 pm)

It is difficult to believe anything said by Weasel or his minions. However - and here's the rub - if he was attacked then we should condemn it utterly and without reservation. The role of revisionists is to combat the bile spouted by the likes of Wiesel with calm, firm and honest truth - with the violent attacks left to the likes of those thugs who attacked Faurisson.

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Postby Revquery » 1 decade 3 years ago (Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:41 pm)

No question that any attack on anyone, including Elie Wiesel, should be denounced and I denounce it here. Keep in mind however that this was small potatoes compared to what both Faurisson and JG Burg have endured, which involved serious beatings.

For the sake of completeness, there are some further wrinkles:

#1 Please keep in mind that the media did not pick up this story from the SFPD or Wiesel, they picked it up from "Eric Hunt" at Ziopedia and THEN asked the SFPD and Wiesel about it.

#2 The story now is that the SFPD requested quiet while investigating. They found a wallet containing the driver's license of man whose name was sorta kinda like "Eric Hunt", and that this individual is a known Holocaust Denier. It is said that this person has fled to the East Coast.

#3 Meanwhile, Wiesel was quoted in an Italian paper today (he is in Rome) saying that Italy should reinforce anti-Denier laws, because it leads to this kind of violence. I don't know what that means: does it mean that criticism of Wiesel is a crime? Talk to Norman Finkelstein.

I just report these things. I still can't make sense of them.

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Postby Revquery » 1 decade 3 years ago (Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:00 pm)


Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel said in an interview published Monday that an attack on him earlier this month in San Francisco shows that Holocaust deniers are increasing worldwide and getting bolder by the day.

The Holocaust scholar was dragged from an elevator and roughed up during a peace conference at San Francisco's Argent Hotel on Feb. 1, according to police. The author was not injured.

"Until today they used words; now they have switched to violence," Wiesel told Milan, Italy-based daily Corriere della Sera. "Their numbers are growing by the day."

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"My incident shows a global trend; if society doesn't act immediately against these individuals it will end up encouraging others to do the same," he said. "Every time I make a speech somewhere in the world there is a group of deniers in that place waiting for me."


This is BAD news.

The problem here is that you don't have to be a Holocaust Denier to know that Elie Wiesel has problems telling the truth. I wonder how he proposes to get around that.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 3 years ago (Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:32 pm)

"Until today they used words; now they have switched to violence," Wiesel told Milan, Italy-based daily Corriere della Sera. "Their numbers are growing by the day."

"My incident shows a global trend; if society doesn't act immediately against these individuals it will end up encouraging others to do the same," he said. "Every time I make a speech somewhere in the world there is a group of deniers in that place waiting for me."

Excuse my bluntness.

What a lying, demented little creep Wiesel is.

Who is THEY? What GLOBAL TREND?

We have one very questionable criminal accusation that is alleged to have been by a single man. Only to a judeo-supremacist is this a "global trend".

If shyster Wiesel means that people are catching on to the absurdity of the lies and impossibilities of the so called 'holocaust', then yes, we have a trend; a growing awareness is a better description.

- What we have is wretched Wiesel admitting the gains of Revisionism. Tell us something we don't already know.

- We have an attempt to silence free speech on the issue via a single, very questionable story, and blatant lies about Revisionists in general.

- We have an inversion of the facts.
It is Revisionists who have suffered immense violence, attacks and persecution, not those who promote, market, and profit from the ridiculous claims of the 'holocaust'.

I'm sorry to say it, but I told you so:
... this seems like a set-up for hanging the label of 'violent threat' on those who have debunked the 'holocaust'; hence paving the way for a 'holocaust denial' law in the US.

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Postby PLAYWRIGHT » 1 decade 3 years ago (Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:25 am)

diaz52 wrote:Wow, that is a powerful essay by this mystery man. Really hard- hitting and right on, especially about the slow and sure decline of the white race in the West being perpetuated by the Jewish ruling class. Really powerful essay; we'd do well to disseminate it widely and get it into as many heads as we can; maybe in a few thinking people this germ of truth will take root and blossom into a healthy white racial consciousness.


You know, I'm damn uncomfortable with that statement. A racial consciousness of any kind is not a healthy thing. This statement belongs with those nutcases over at Stormfront, not here. I became a revisionist for historical truth, not some whacked-out racial agenda.

Paul Rassinier wrote some pithy essays for DEFENSE DE LA HOMME denouncing racism, I'll see if I can translate and post them. Beginning with Barnes, the historical roots of revisionism are firmly anti-racist.

As for Weisel, his story sounds suspiciously similar to the sexual assault big fat feminist Andrea Dworkin alleged at a hotel in Europe shortly before she died. Even her die-hard supporters found the story difficult to swallow, and wondered if her imagination had completely taken over her reason.

Hotel elevators at any time of day or night are rarely empty, and if there were no security cameras in the elevator, there were at the entrances and exits, so this "Eric Hunt" should be pretty easy to spot. The fact that they haven't, and the lack of witnesses even to his yelling, has my suspicion meter beeping.

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Postby Goethe » 1 decade 3 years ago (Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:54 am)

Playwright said:
A racial consciousness of any kind is not a healthy thing.

Oh come on, knowing who you are and where you come from isn't healthy? Speak for your self, Playwright. Get some self respect, Playwright.
Racial consciousness is normal and prevalent in all races. Should I mention all the various racial groups that are publically funded, promoted, and praised?

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Yes, I realize we're off topic.
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Postby diaz52 » 1 decade 3 years ago (Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:15 am)

PLAYWRIGHT wrote:
diaz52 wrote:Wow, that is a powerful essay by this mystery man. Really hard- hitting and right on, especially about the slow and sure decline of the white race in the West being perpetuated by the Jewish ruling class. Really powerful essay; we'd do well to disseminate it widely and get it into as many heads as we can; maybe in a few thinking people this germ of truth will take root and blossom into a healthy white racial consciousness.


You know, I'm damn uncomfortable with that statement. A racial consciousness of any kind is not a healthy thing. This statement belongs with those nutcases over at Stormfront, not here. I became a revisionist for historical truth, not some whacked-out racial agenda.

Paul Rassinier wrote some pithy essays for DEFENSE DE LA HOMME denouncing racism, I'll see if I can translate and post them. Beginning with Barnes, the historical roots of revisionism are firmly anti-racist.

As for Weisel, his story sounds suspiciously similar to the sexual assault big fat feminist Andrea Dworkin alleged at a hotel in Europe shortly before she died. Even her die-hard supporters found the story difficult to swallow, and wondered if her imagination had completely taken over her reason.

Hotel elevators at any time of day or night are rarely empty, and if there were no security cameras in the elevator, there were at the entrances and exits, so this "Eric Hunt" should be pretty easy to spot. The fact that they haven't, and the lack of witnesses even to his yelling, has my suspicion meter beeping.


Hello Playwright, seeing as we're firmly nestled in the middle of Black History Month here in the U.S. I thought it was strange that you're feeling "damn uncomfortable" about the notion of a healthy racial consciousness. Would it make you more comfortable if I announced I'm utterly indifferent to the survival of the White race? Certainly the establishment would nod its approval of that statement. As the older Pres. Bush allegedly once said: "Not gonna do it."
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Postby Moderator » 1 decade 3 years ago (Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:52 am)

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Postby Rapier » 1 decade 3 years ago (Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:04 pm)

A basic theme in many of my posts is infrastructure. The exaggerated version of the Holocaust did not happen because the infrastructure, let alone any intent, was not available.

The infrastructure that supports a speaker of the ilk-stature-importance-age of Elie Wiesel would-could never unintentionally let him go off by himself during the window of a speaking engagement.

Elie Wiesel is managed day in and day out. Someone prepares his his transportation arrangements, where and when he will eat and speak. For every task he has his people.

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