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the so called 'black execution wall' of Auschwitz

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 3 years ago (Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:07 am)

Here is a drawing by an alleged "survivor", curiously left behind by the Germans so he could talk. Hmm. Note usual nudes for effect.

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Here is a "reconstruction" in an attempt to replicate the propaganda drawing.

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And here's David Irving. Good try David, they still won't like you.

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At the far end of a long, narrow courtyard between Block 10 and Block 11 at the Auschwitz I camp is a brick wall which connects the two buildings. In front of this brick wall, the Nazis placed another removable wall, constructed out of logs and covered with cork painted black; the ends of the wall were angled slightly toward the center. The purpose of the black wall was to protect the beautiful brick wall behind it from bullet holes.

The picture above shows some artwork done by a survivor of the camp, after he was liberated. He has depicted an execution scene at the black wall with a uniformed SS man shooting three prisoners while other SS officers look on. Two camp inmates carry the bodies from the wall and add them to the pile in the foreground; it was the Jews who were assigned to do this work. To the left in the picture is an object made out of logs which was not at the wall when I was there. This is the portable gallows which was used to hang political prisoners in the camp.

Many people have noticed that there are no bullet holes in the wall. That's because this is not the original black wall; according to my guide, this is a reconstruction which looks like the original. The original wall was removed after Arthur Liebehenschel replaced Rudolf Hoess as the camp commander in November, 1943, and ordered the executions at the wall to stop.

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Auschwitz ... itz05.html

Some questions:

Are we to believe that the entire wall was torn down and rebuilt a la the bogus ''gas chamber' at Auschwitz I?

Or, are we to believe that a flimsy stick and cork barrier, that was moved in place on demand, is what prevented bullets involved in an alleged execution of 20,000 from striking the brick wall behind it, and it is the barrier which was reconstructed?

Perhaps the wall was always there, has no bullet holes, and the claims of a moveable cork and stick barrier was created to fit the propaganda which would be demolished by seeing the lack of bullet holes in the brick wall behind the reconstructed barrier.

The whole story seems ridiculous at best; but this IS the 'holocaust' where laughable nonsense passes as fact.

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Postby theTRUTH » 1 decade 3 years ago (Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:49 pm)

On air-photo.com, Auschwitz 1, a brick wall connects Barracks 10 and 11 in the lower left corner with an opposite connecting wall and an arched entrance. Inspection of the April, May, June, and August, 1944 air photos shows an inside shorter wall does NOT exist as drawn and described by alleged eye-witnesses. As in other camp stories contradicted by the air photos, the execution wall story has recently changed to the allegation it was removed and the executions stopped in 1943. Another example of the constantly changing Holocaust stories that cannot compete with Revisionist's scientific analysis.
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Postby Breker » 1 decade 3 years ago (Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:01 am)

theTRUTH wrote:On air-photo.com, Auschwitz 1, a brick wall connects Barracks 10 and 11 in the lower left corner with an opposite connecting wall and an arched entrance. Inspection of the April, May, June, and August, 1944 air photos shows an inside shorter wall does NOT exist as drawn and described by alleged eye-witnesses. As in other camp stories contradicted by the air photos, the execution wall story has recently changed to the allegation it was removed and the executions stopped in 1943. Another example of the constantly changing Holocaust stories that cannot compete with Revisionist's scientific analysis.

This creates quite a problem for the "constantly changing Holocaust stories". We shall explain.

In Hannover's quote, there is an inmate who made the drawing of this queer looking wall after the Soviet arrival at Auschwitz. It's said that executions at this wall were stopped in 1943, which means that this alleged artistic inmate arrived, at minimum, sometime in 1943, if not earlier. According to the taught timeline, this artistic inmate would have been at Auschwitz during the period of the most horrendous mass gassings. We then have questions.
1. Why wasn't he gassed?
2. Why would he have been left at Auschwitz by the SS to draw such a secret wall?
3. Why would he have been left at Auschwitz to tell all that he would have certainly seen since his arrival?

We think management of the "Holocaust" story has gone astray once more.
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Postby David Phillips » 1 decade 3 years ago (Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:23 pm)

TheTruth. 2 points.

Because of the way the shadows fall, if the execution wall was much shorter than the main wall and was close enough it might not show up on an air photo anyway.

2. If we believe scrapbook the wall was dismantled before the air photos anyway.

The execution wall was also drawn and described in the War Refugees Board report of Nov 1944 (but supposedly written earlier). I think it is in the so-called Polish Major's report.

On a slightly related note the so-called bullet catcher in the execution trench at Sachsenhausen, and this is not alleged to have been rebuilt (photos from May/June 1945 survive of it), is also unscarred by bullets.

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Postby Haldan » 1 decade 3 years ago (Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:11 pm)

It is known that people who participated in illegal acts and criminality, were sometimes handed harsh sentences and in worse cases the execution of the person caught in the act. I have myself not researched throughly where these executions took place - but we can only assume that there must have been VERY limited executions and that the person caught in the act was punished in some other way; considering the fact that the Germans were desperate for labor, so they had to keep as many people alive as they possibly could - it was in their interest to keep people healthy and alive, not the other way around!

So far we are in need of accurate information that this wall was even used when executing people. Then if it is established that perhaps it was used under such conditions, we would have to examine the outlandish claims to determine if there is any crediblity in such claims - which there most likely is not, as in so many other "holocaust" claims.

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Postby Henry » 1 decade 3 years ago (Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:55 pm)

The people who complain about 'summary executions' are the same people that conveniently forget that there was a war going on and that the people in the camp where the 'black wall' is were political prisoners. Many were partisans who were lucky not to have taken a bullet at the front. And the people who complain about the black wall are the same ones who moan and wail about the shootings of unarmed SS men at camps 'liberated' by the Yanks.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:22 pm)

David Phillips wrote:On a slightly related note the so-called bullet catcher in the execution trench at Sachsenhausen, and this is not alleged to have been rebuilt (photos from May/June 1945 survive of it), is also unscarred by bullets.

Good point, here's the alleged 'bullet catcher' at Sachsenhausen. Note that it appears to be made of log ends, there are no bullet marks. If the tales were true, then this wall would have been highly disfigured.
See the "execution trench" here, scroll down:
http://travel.webshots.com/album/553435 ... J?start=12

Don't miss the laughable photo of a shower room passed off as a 'gas chamber' ... with a glass pane window.

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Postby PotPie » 1 decade 2 years ago (Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:21 pm)

So many executions, so few bullet holes...

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Re: the so called 'black execution wall' of Auschwitz

Postby Brainscan2015 » 5 years 6 months ago (Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:24 pm)

Did they really replace the wall in 1943? That sounds bogus. Why not just leave the original wall.

This sounds like they are trying to hide the fact that it has no bullet holes in it.

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Re: the so called 'black execution wall' of Auschwitz

Postby HeiligeSturm » 4 years 10 months ago (Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:27 pm)

auschwitz wall of death 1.jpg


"Death wall" before "restoring" or "reconstruction"

http://collections.yadvashem.org/photos ... 19700.html
http://www.infocenters.co.il/gfh/notebo ... g&site=gfh

No bulletholes visible.
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Re: the so called 'black execution wall' of Auschwitz

Postby borjastick » 4 years 10 months ago (Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:10 pm)

What was all the wood lying on the ground to the left for? Was that a stand or cover for the wall for the claimed shootings to happen against? If so the bullets of all those firing squads should have been recoverable and available as proof now.
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Re: the so called 'black execution wall' of Auschwitz

Postby Hektor » 4 years 10 months ago (Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:51 am)

borjastick wrote:What was all the wood lying on the ground to the left for? Was that a stand or cover for the wall for the claimed shootings to happen against? If so the bullets of all those firing squads should have been recoverable and available as proof now.

That would be interesting to find.
But if people are shot with one bullet. It may actually stick in the body depending on caliber and cartridge.

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Re: the so called 'black execution wall' of Auschwitz

Postby borjastick » 4 years 10 months ago (Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:45 am)

There were a number of standard issue rifles for the Wehrmacht some of which are shown below. There is little chance of a bullet stopping inside a target at just 10-30 metres. I know a bit about guns and shooting and doubt very much that a human body could absorb a full assault rifle bullet.

When I first started shooting as a young army cadet we used the amazing Lee Enfield .303. We were told that this rifle was so powerful that it could pass through two soldiers, in a line, and only stop inside the third. We were genuinely scared of firing these guns because the kick on them was enormous.

The Germans had an impressive ability with weaponry.

Rifles
Name Manufacturer Cartridge
Gewehr 98/40 Fémárú, Fegyver- és Gépgyár 7.92×57mm Mauser
Karabiner 98a Mauser-Werke various others 7.92×57mm Mauser
Karabiner 98b Mauser-Werke various others 7.92×57mm Mauser
Karabiner 98k Mauser-Werke various others 7.92×57mm Mauser


As usual with the holocaust claims one needs to ask the obvious questions that they, the promoters, don't want to be asked. In this case they would be along the lines of show me the bullet holes, the bullets, the photographs of said executions, records of same and what was that wood lying on the ground in the picture?
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