Holocaust Debate

Sailor · Postby **Sailor** » 1 decade 7 years ago (Fri Jul 11, 2003 11:13 am)

To debate is defined as:

to discuss reasons for and against (something).

Plato debates Aristotle.

Can something be debated among like minded people?
Can the Holocaust be debated between Revisionists only, with no anti-Revisionists participating?

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Scott · Postby **Scott** » 1 decade 7 years ago (Fri Jul 11, 2003 11:33 am)

Sailor wrote:Can something be debated among like minded people?
Can the Holocaust be debated between Revisionists only, with no anti-Revisionists participating?

Well, we've tried that. I've tried to play devil's advocate and the results are somewhat disappointing to say the least. Discussion is different from debate. One can brainstorm with like-minded people and that can stimulate creativity and share knowledge, but one doesn't really stretch intellectual frontiers with an amen-corner.

Furthermore, part of the problem, I think, is that the various sides are so far apart as to be irreconciliable. Do they really want to talk to each other? This is a problem that is not caused by not getting the message out or not investigating obscure details, however much a necessary part of historiography.

The only hope to bring the two sides together is to sponsor the spirit of honest and Open Debate. Even if the two sides do not agree they will eventually learn to respect each other. And with mutual respect comes reconciliation and peace. The academic details then follow.

Hannover · Postby **Hannover** » 1 decade 7 years ago (Fri Jul 11, 2003 11:34 am)

As this Forum and the facts will attest, they have nothing to debate with other than easily debunked anti-science absurdities, lies, and misinformation.

The Believers could come here at any time, but they dare not. As has been stated before, only 3 Believers and 3 Revisionists have been banned for posted guidelines violations. Surely there is more than 3 Believers in the story who have confidence enough to debate. But wait a minute....'no namecalling, no subject changing, and no dodging' says the guidelines. There's your answer.

Or as Tom Moran says, 'it's a slam dunk', and they know it.

- Hannover

Scott · Postby **Scott** » 1 decade 7 years ago (Fri Jul 11, 2003 3:16 pm)

Ah, but will the Revisionists engage them away from their own turf?
:idea:

Hannover · Postby **Hannover** » 1 decade 7 years ago (Fri Jul 11, 2003 3:23 pm)

Utter nonsense Scott. We allow none of the hate that you do at your site, very simple.

again:

The Believers could come here at any time, but they dare not. As has been stated before, only 3 Believers and 3 Revisionists have been banned for posted guidelines violations. Surely there is more than 3 Believers in the story who have confidence enough to debate. But wait a minute....'no namecalling, no subject changing, and no dodging' says the guidelines.

- H.

Sailor · Postby **Sailor** » 1 decade 7 years ago (Fri Jul 11, 2003 9:23 pm)

Scott wrote: The only hope to bring the two sides together is to sponsor the spirit of honest and Open Debate. Even if the two sides do not agree they will eventually learn to respect each other. And with mutual respect comes reconciliation and peace. The academic details then follow.

This sounds very optimistic. Unfortunately I have absolutely no respect for the Holocaust Believers and their ways.

As long as Holocausters need the law, police force and the prison cell to get their points across and to subdue the opposition, I have no real desire to socialize with these people in any way or form. I don’t need their ideas. Their ways are fascistic in the purest sense.

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