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Re: fake Einsatzgruppen shooting photos - only liars need fakes

Postby HeiligeSturm » 11 months 1 week ago (Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:11 pm)

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This next one appeared in Goldhagen's book, so called: 'Hitler's Willing Executioners' and is displayed at the Simon Wiesenthal Center 'Museum of Tolerance':

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now see this photo and interesting text about it here:
https://codoh.com/library/document/912/?lang=en

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USHMM; Adds Two Rifles, One Body
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And notice that the Wiesenthal Center has cropped the feet to hide the fact that the pasted in woman & child aren't even touching the ground.
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http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/site/pp.asp ... G&b=394933



This picture pops up again... and this guy tries to defend the "official story".


But in the beginning he gives away the very good confirmation that this picture truly is one of the Soviet fakes.
In the caption of the picture Ivanhorod is spelled as Ivangorod, just like Russians would spell Hitler as Gitler.

Germans would have known if they are in Ivangorod by the Estonia–Russia border
or in Ivanhorod in the central Ukraine. There is however yet another Ivanhorod in the southern Ukraine.
Also Dęblin, Poland was called Ivangorod.
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Re: fake Einsatzgruppen shooting photos - only liars need fakes

Postby giovanni53 » 11 months 1 week ago (Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:43 am)

hello codoh forum; this is a new account i've just made because i had difficulties logging with my previous one "rev82" but anyway, i've got a copy of a rather dark and very morbid book titled "those were the days" by klee, dressen and reiss filled with horror stories and some truth here and there. now i don't want to discuss the einsatz because i'm about to get mattogno's and i'm not really an expert on them but i'd rather like to know what do you think about the following pics ive just took from the book
the book ( i've found it in a charity shop without dust jacket )
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the "famous" photo here again a bit different from the other ones
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these are the ones i'm referring to
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they look pretty dark to me

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Re: fake Einsatzgruppen shooting photos - only liars need fakes

Postby bonniwell2923 » 11 months 1 week ago (Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:23 am)

Here is an oldie but goodie
Note
1) how tall this guy is going into the furnace
2) Note the man in the middle. See his hand on the door of the furnace (with gloves on)., one thing is for sure, if that furnace was stoking, he would not have his hand on that door, gloves or no gloves.
3) IF that furnace was stoking, would they be standing so close to an open door?
4) there is a photo without the dead person

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Re: fake Einsatzgruppen shooting photos - only liars need fakes

Postby HeiligeSturm » 11 months 5 days ago (Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:21 am)

That is well known post-liberation picture from Dachau krematorium. So called Dachau sonderkommando picture (one of three I guess), not related to Einsatzgruppen.
But still most likely a forgery, at least staged situation as was many many other things. (Death train, body lorries etc.)
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Re: fake Einsatzgruppen shooting photos - only liars need fakes

Postby Hektor » 11 months 1 hour ago (Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:02 pm)

HeiligeSturm wrote:....
This picture pops up again... and this guy tries to defend the "official story".


But in the beginning he gives away the very good confirmation that this picture truly is one of the Soviet fakes.
In the caption of the picture Ivanhorod is spelled as Ivangorod, just like Russians would spell Hitler as Gitler.

Germans would have known if they are in Ivangorod by the Estonia–Russia border
or in Ivanhorod in the central Ukraine. There is however yet another Ivanhorod in the southern Ukraine.
Also Dęblin, Poland was called Ivangorod.

In fact the same pictures pop up again and again. And not only in the pop literature.

That's a good indication of them not really caring whether their evidence is sound or not.

The attempts to explain the problems with the picture away are hilarious to say the least.

With the picture in question the civilians usually never shown seem to be engaged in some agricultural activity, which is also indicated by their posture and shovel.

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Re: fake Einsatzgruppen shooting photos - only liars need fakes

Postby JohnDemianiuk » 8 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:47 am)

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Re: fake Einsatzgruppen shooting photos - only liars need fakes

Postby borjastick » 8 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:08 pm)

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And your thoughts and technical analysis are what? What do you think of the points raised on the picture, not that i can read them all so perhaps you could invest a little time to review and comment on the contents of that photo. I know a little about guns and I would say that rifle could be either model.
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Re: fake Einsatzgruppen shooting photos - only liars need fakes

Postby JohnDemianiuk » 8 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:41 pm)

borjastick wrote:
JohnDemianiuk wrote:Image


And your thoughts and technical analysis are what? What do you think of the points raised on the picture, not that i can read them all so perhaps you could invest a little time to review and comment on the contents of that photo. I know a little about guns and I would say that rifle could be either model.


I do not speak English. However, as it seems to me, the form is really very similar to the Yugoslav one, so Serbian guerrillas can easily be.


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