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Be proud of the Holocaust--you did it, America!

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:32 pm)

Be Proud of the Holocaust--you did it, America! It was your handiwork. Don't blame the Germans. Don't give them credit they don't really deserve. Don't be so generous. The real horrors were you're doing after such heroic efforts and enormous sacrifice. Be proud of your true greatness. The Nazis and Germans didn't gas or shoot Anne Frank; they didn't deliberately starve her or cause her to get sick. But Americans did. Of course, it wasn't supposed to work out quite that way. Only Germans were supposed to die from bombing, or strafing, or starvation or disease.

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Above are victims of disease–generally typhus–at Bergen-Belsen. Those horrible deaths were a direct result of the Anglo-American bombing and strafing of axis civilians and civilian targets. The Germans are still falsely blamed. General Dwight D. EISENHOWER had even forced thousands of German civilians to walk past the dead as if they were somehow responsible. He should have looked at himself in the mirror, instead. Belsen was his handiwork. Such horrors were also the handiwork of all of America's and Britain's leaders, from the highest to the lowest. Just what did they expect to find after years of bombing and strafing every conceivable target from entire cities to lone farmers in their fields? The real horrors of the so-called holocaust, in pictures that everyone should look at, were America's own doing. Don't be shy, don't deny--take pride in your achievement America! You did it! But, instead of embracing their own achievements, they actually believe they were the “good guys.” They continue to blame the Germans, especially those “fiendish” Nazis, for what they themselves had caused. They themselves were the true fiends and criminals. But they won the war. And EISENHOWER, instead of being hung as the depraved and cowardly war criminal that he truly was, actually rose to become president of Columbia University and later the United States–an American hero and an inspiration for future generations for future wars!

The above picture and countless others like it are also used to support the gassing claims when, in fact, the people who generally do this know perfectly well that not even one of the bodies shown in any photo, anywhere, is of someone killed with poison, or poison gas of any kind. Dr. Charles P. Larson, an American, was just one of the doctors specifically assigned to find forensic evidence of deaths from poison or gas and they all found nothing!

Anne Frank was among the dead at Bergen-Belsen. She died there from typhus even though she had spent many months in Auschwitz in 1944. She had later been evacuated to Bergen-Belsen and died there just two weeks before the camp was turned over to a British medical team on April 15, 1945 as part of a negotiated truce which had been initiated by the SS. It was the British who had delayed the actual transfer of the camp for several days, perhaps even weeks, because of special security demands they had put upon the SS. See footnote 34 of my essay "Typhus and the Jews."Anne Frank and countless others had “survived” Auschwitz because the Nazis had wanted them to “survive.” If the Nazis had wanted them to die, they certainly would have been able to arrange it–but they, obviously, had no desire to kill her even though Anne Frank's usefulness to the Nazi war effort would have been close to nil. They fed her, and clothed her with clean lice-free clothing, and provided shelter and security and much more as best they could in spite of the war. It was British and American terror bombing and strafing that murdered Anne Frank–NOT the Nazis! Her unburied remains were probably still there when the British entered the camp and may even be identified someday in a picture such as the one above. Of course, the Americans and Brits had not murdered her intentionally–Anne Frank's death was merely the kind of collateral damage that “happens.” If she had merely been any German girl of the same age, there would be nothing to talk about. For example, 140 German girls named "Anne" were murdered in Würzburg on March 16, 1945 by the Allied bombing in which 7,000 people were killed. Shame on America!

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The Holocaust story is a hoax because 1) no one was killed by the Nazis in gas chambers, 2) the total number of Jews who died in Nazi captivity is miniscule compared to what is alleged.

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Postby Kiwichap » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:15 pm)

Its not only America and Britians shame, Mr Berg. Its New Zealand's shame, Australias shame and all the Allies. I'm ashamed. We were on the wrong side, and we knew it. Chamberlain came home waving the peace agreement with Hitler. And not long after, he was gone and Churchill was in. The peace flew outta the window, and war was determined. Churchill,s papers are sealed until 2050, what are they hiding?

I know we were on the wrong side. My Grandfather was a merchant sailor, he took convoys of food, arms, farm equipment etc, to the Soviets at Murmansk. When they berthed, nobody was allowed off the ship. They remained onboard until they left. Ya just gotta ask yourself, what kind of Allies are these.

But we always have to ask ourselves who benefited. It wasn't us. Look at us now. Our nations are wrecked, as wrecked as ever Germany was. The loss of life and destruction are just measured differently. Our nations are dead within. I sense a clean-up is on the way.
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Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:49 pm)

Kiwichap is right, of course, and I thank him for his comment.

Before the US, and whatever Allies it has left, smash Iran to make Israelis feel more secure, especially in time for the next American election--we should remind ourselves as to what our previous wars have really done.

Ken Burns is riding high with his "The War" TV series about WW2. Too bad he cannot see the blood dripping from his own hands. But Ken Burns is criminally insane. It is especially people like him--people who rationalize the horrors their own nation caused in senseless, past wars--who provide the groundwork for the horrors of future, senseless wars. Those horrors will be worse than anything we have seen yet. "It must never happen again"--but almost inevitably, it does and will.

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The Holocaust story is a hoax because 1) no one was killed by the Nazis in gas chambers, 2) the total number of Jews who died in Nazi captivity is miniscule compared to what is alleged.

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Postby ASMarques » 1 decade 2 years ago (Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:20 am)

Kiwichap wrote:Churchill,s papers are sealed until 2050, what are they hiding?

That question is the most eloquent comment one can make on the disgrace that was WW2. Sixty years have gone by and governments still feel the need to hide their war-mongering predecessors' criminal doings, while ridiculing those who sought peace, and at the same time proclaiming their all-out adhesion to a Jewish sponsored "preservation of memory" that is actually no more than pure war propaganda by constant mind-numbing assault. What a scandal that almost no one even looks at this self-evident denial of truth as an intolerable abnormal development! I mean, what more is needed for people to understand what has been going on? You don't hide your good doings, you only hide your crimes and lies! Those who more or less understand and still go along with their murderous masters deserve what is coming their way. Alas, many innocents will suffer in the forever wars against the future Hitlers-of-the-day.
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Postby Sailor » 1 decade 2 years ago (Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:32 pm)

There are still millions of files about WWII locked up and classified in some US archives.

All agencies completed preliminary surveys of their records holdings categories of classified records that potentially could contain relevant documents. The agencies identified more than 600 million pages in 127 file categories to be further searched for responsive documents. Records at the CIA, Department of Defense, FBI, and archival records at NARA appear to contain the most responsive documents.


Source:
Implementation of the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act
http://www.archives.gov/iwg/reports/naz ... tober-1999

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The Holocaust hoaxsters exaggerate and embellish a 60+ year old event in order to abuse the Palestinians and rob them of their land, while claiming a free pass for their barbaric conduct on account of the "holocaust".

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Postby Wahrheit » 1 decade 2 years ago (Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:39 pm)

Friedrich Paul Berg wrote:The Nazis and Germans didn't gas or shoot Anne Frank; they didn't deliberately starve her or cause her to get sick. But Americans did.


I do not find this to be a satisfactory argument. Certainly no excuse for the terror bombings the Western Air forces performed can be offered, yet who was it that put Anne Frank in such bondage? Who had her deported from her home country and shipped many miles East to dreadful Polish conditions?

That was not the Western Allies.

Friedrich Paul Berg wrote:Those horrible deaths were a direct result of the Anglo-American bombing and strafing of axis civilians and civilian targets. The Germans are still falsely blamed.


Direct result? Frank was in the horrible condition she was in directly thanks to German racial policies, and the Wehrmacht's military defeats suffered at the front (causing the transfer to Altreich).

Indirectly, the shortages suffered by Germany were partly due to her loss of the air war, allowing the Western Allies to endlessly bomb German factories and cities. These shortages (in medicine, doctors, food, etc..) and the loss of decent communications and transportation capabilities, resulted in even more suffering by the Nazis' political enemies.

Do not point the finger at a belligerent when the crime itself is war.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 2 years ago (Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:42 pm)

I do not find this to be a satisfactory argument. Certainly no excuse for the terror bombings the Western Air forces performed can be offered, yet who was it that put Anne Frank in such bondage? Who had her deported from her home country and shipped many miles East to dreadful Polish conditions?

That was not the Western Allies.

Frank was in the horrible condition she was in directly thanks to German racial policies, and the Wehrmacht's military defeats suffered at the front (causing the transfer to Altreich).

Indirectly, the shortages suffered by Germany were partly due to her loss of the air war, allowing the Western Allies to endlessly bomb German factories and cities. These shortages (in medicine, doctors, food, etc..) and the loss of decent communications and transportation capabilities, resulted in even more suffering by the Nazis' political enemies.

Do not point the finger at a belligerent when the crime itself is war.

As opposed to the racial policy of incarcerating Japanese-Americans? In fact, even Japanese immigrants living in South America were seized and sent to US concentration camps.
As opposed to the racial policy of incarcerating German-Americans?
As opposed to the racial policy of incarcerating Italian-Americans?
As opposed to the communist policy of exterminating and incarcerating Christians?

The communists had laws against 'antisemitism', but none against antigentilism. We know why.

Auschwitz inmates were given a choice to retreat with the SS or wait for 'liberation' by the communists. Guess what, most went with the SS. Very revealing.

The Germans tried delivering food to the camps, but the Allies illegally attacked medical & food suppplies to the camps, the Germans were blamed for the resultant deaths while the Allies walked. Loss of air war or not, the Allies violated international law by deliberately attacking German civilians just because they were German.

Agreed, war is hell. But don't single out the Germans when it was the Allies who were the real exterminationists.

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Postby ClaudiaRothenbach » 1 decade 2 years ago (Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:07 am)

Wahrheit wrote:... yet who was it that put Anne Frank in such bondage? Who had her deported from her home country and shipped many miles East to dreadful Polish conditions?

That was not the Western Allies.


That were the Germans!
Anne Frank was a Jewish girl and hence "Angehörige einer Feindnation". (This means member of a enemy nation).

In 1933 leading Jews or Zionists declared a Jewish war against Germany and extorted various governments to boycott German goods.

In September 1939 the boss of the JWC (Weizman) ensured the British government that the Jews would support the holy war against Germany (the letter was written before the German attack against Poland, but published later).

Only when the JWC declared war on Germany in 1941 the Germans interned and deported smaller or bigger fractions of Jews in various countries.

This is the reason why Anne Frank came to Auschwitz.

As Eli the Weasel tells us in one of his books the Jews from Auschwitz were brought to camps in Germany to secure them - from the Asiatic hordes (as Stalin called his army).

But Anne came "vom Regen in die Traufe" (out of the frying pan into the fire). Now her life was not threatened by communists but by democ-rats - and she died of typhus.

Possibly under British control:

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Postby Mannstein » 1 decade 2 years ago (Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:09 am)

Actually more Germans died under Allied occupation between 1945 and 1948 after the shooting stopped than during the war. I'll be more than happy to supply references which attest to the fact. My family which fled from the East and lived in Bavaria when the war ended witnessed many deaths due to starvation among aquintances and strangers. This was carried out in the US zone of occupation as a result of the implementation of JCS 1067. The other Allies used draconian measures which were even worse. When NGO's like the ICRC attempted to send food into Germany the Allies refused them entry.

The difference is the Germans were under wartime conditions in trying to supply the camps, the Allies implemented their policies when the shooting stopped. They had no one bombing their supply lines.

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Postby Eraisuithon » 1 decade 2 years ago (Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:32 pm)

I have to agree with Hannover. We were the ones who occupied Germany. We were the ones who blithely sat by and allowed Germany to be carved up and torn asunder, with one portion stomped under the communist jackboot. We are the ones who have been supporting Israel, Zionism, and allowing the lie to be circulated through the establishment of asinine Holocaust 'museums' which have little educational value, and resemble 'The House of Horrors and Freaks" in Madame Trousseau's Wax Museum.

As an American I feel ashamed that we have been following a trend of intervention and war mongering which goes against our previous platform of non-intervention and a focus on economic interests (the Monroe Doctrine). Hopefully, one day, we'll get out heads out of our rears and go back to what our Founding Fathers intended us to do.

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Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 2 years ago (Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:32 pm)

My understanding of the Anne Frank story is that she and her family were only rounded up in August of 1944 a-f-t-e-r the Allied breakout from the Normandy beachhead in late July, 1944. More than likely, the German authorities in Amsterdam knew all about the Frank family hiding-place long before then, but simply didn't bother with them. But, after the Allied breakout from Normandy, Holland was a likely next step for the Allies. Operation Market Garden in September was just such a step.

To minimize any mischief-making and agitating by Jews, the Germans rounded-up as many Jews as they could before the inevitable fighting could occur in Holland. The Japanese were rounded up in California after the Pearl Harbour Attack for the same reasons, and rightly so. Why should the Germans have behaved any differently with a far more hostile minority? At least they kept the Frank family together.

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Postby Barrington James » 1 decade 2 years ago (Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:51 am)

I don't think it is totally fair to blame the Americans for the horrors of terror bombing or for the war. Terror bombing was just a natural extension of war in general and air war in particular. It was originally thought by many to be a much better alternative and life saver than trench warfare which had killed millions in WW1. Almost every major country in the word had planned for it. As it turned out the British had a four hundred year head start on Germany in total war and they taught her Allies well. All the British Allies behaved as barbarians, not just America.

The world had to choose between negotiators such as Neville Chamberlain and war mongers such as Churchill , Hitler and FDR. Unfortunately for mankind making war seems to be our way of solving problems. We made the wrong choice. That's why we still have problems.

As it turned out city bombing was a waste of the lives of tens of thousands of young men as air crew, for it did little to win the war, and in the end it just destroyed most of the most beautiful cities of Europe and killed millions of people for nothing, most of whom were women and children.

Worst of all terror bombing destroyed the soul of America and this led directly to her hideous bombing of Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Iraq, and the dozens of little wars in between. It led to the use of D.U., our support of third world dictators and oil rich Kings everywhere, and the creation of man made diseases such as AIDS.

Terror bombing was a fatal step backwards for mankind. America's corruption has sucked our energy away from solving the problems of the world such as global warming and disease and, in effect, has led probably led to death of life on earth. However I still believe that it unfair to blame America alone for the sins of mankind. The future tombstone for mankind should read: we did it to ourselves.
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Postby BradleySmith » 1 decade 2 years ago (Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:05 pm)

[ Anne ] Frank was in the horrible condition she was in directly thanks to German racial policies, and ...]

I agree here. She was guilty of nothing. If we can charge Americans with the deliberate mass-murder of innocent, unarmed German and Japanese civilians for a greater good, and we do, why are we so interested in relieving Germans of the repsonsibility for the death of one Jewish girl? There is the cliche about patriotism being the last refuge of the scoundrel. If it is true for American patriots, its true for German patriots.

THis brief note does not address all the other issues in this thread -- and there are many. Only that of the (primary) responsibility for the death of Anne Frank.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 2 years ago (Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:58 pm)

BradleySmith wrote:[ Anne ] Frank was in the horrible condition she was in directly thanks to German racial policies, and ...]

I agree here. She was guilty of nothing. If we can charge Americans with the deliberate mass-murder of innocent, unarmed German and Japanese civilians for a greater good, and we do, why are we so interested in relieving Germans of the repsonsibility for the death of one Jewish girl? There is the cliche about patriotism being the last refuge of the scoundrel. If it is true for American patriots, its true for German patriots.

THis brief note does not address all the other issues in this thread -- and there are many. Only that of the (primary) responsibility for the death of Anne Frank.

I don't believe anyone is " interested in relieving Germans of the responsibility for the death of one Jewish girl". That argument is a strawman.

Anne Frank is used as a symbol of the 'holocaust' story and is therefore open to clarification by Revisionists.

This issue is the fact that Germans are accused of things they didn't do, and that what they supposedly did was unique. IOW, our received version of "history" says the Allies were guilty of nothing. That version of "history" is easily shown to be false.

For every Anne Frank, there are many, many more 'Anne Schmidts'.

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Postby Wahrheit » 1 decade 2 years ago (Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:53 pm)

As opposed to the racial policy of incarcerating Japanese-Americans? In fact, even Japanese immigrants living in South America were seized and sent to US concentration camps.
As opposed to the racial policy of incarcerating German-Americans?
As opposed to the racial policy of incarcerating Italian-Americans?
As opposed to the communist policy of exterminating and incarcerating Christians?


Hannover, there is only "as opposed to" in moral equivalency and bleeding-heart relativism. Frankly, that is not the point of this discussion.

I never tried to paint the Wallies as 'the good guys', for they certainly have there share of backage; yet one must admit that the Germans do as well. Is the German backage actually what believers promote? Of course not, but a reasonable standard of wrongness equally applies to all.


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