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Add Mark Weber to your boycott!!

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:34 pm)

OK, boycott David Irving but add Mark Weber and the IHR also until Weber is replaced by someone who represents the anti-holocaust views of Holocaust Revisionists. Why is Irving any worse than Mark Weber? Irving is no more of a shameless, duplicitous fraud than Mark Weber is.

In case anyone is unaware of what Mark Weber did--Weber appeared on the Hannity & Colmes TV show early this year and told the world that "we do not deny the holocaust." Weber explains his cowardly position on the IHR website under the heading "The Holocaust Issue" on the separate page entitled: "About Us," See for yourself, folks. Weber was riding on the publicity generated by the revisionist conference in Teheran shortly before the TV show but then stabbed all revisionists in the back, especially those who took considerable risks to be at the conference in Teheran.

Save your money for a worthwhile cause--the IHR ain't it! At least Irving has produced many interesting books and did jail time for his revisionism. Weber does next to nothing--except undercut revisionists using the good name and salary derived from the many supporters of holocaust revisionism over more than twenty-five years.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:59 pm)

I have already explained my thoughts on Weber here:
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4536

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Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:33 pm)

The internal politics and problems of the IHR and Mark Weber are not the issue. It is the public pronouncements of the IHR director which are the issue--and his pronouncements are disgraceful.

Mark Weber has branded himself with both hands as a half-wit who simply does not understand what holocaust revisionism is all about and does not even want to be associated with it except to draw an easy income for himself. He should get out of the IHR or, since he will not go by himself, the directors should remove him.

Short of that happening, the IHR and Weber should be boycotted.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:34 am)

Friedrich Paul Berg wrote: He should get out of the IHR or, since he will not go by himself, the directors should remove him.

Apparently the directors do not agree, otherwise I assume they would.

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Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:15 am)

The IHR directors are perfect stooges for Mark Weber--and keep Weber in his position. But, if the boycott catches on, even they may come to their senses and remove Weber.

Remove Weber! It's the right thing to do.

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Postby Kiwichap » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:47 pm)

I recall listening to many interviews Mark Weber participated in with many different media sources nation wide. Weber never failed to mention Ernst Zundel and his predicament. Many of the interviews were only about Ernst Zundel, and updates to his predicament. I think Weber is very much to thank for the wide knowledge of Zundels plight.

I saw the interview with Hannity & Colmes, the long trained, clever, manipulative, disinfo merchants. Sure Weber said what he said. Strike One!
But he is still in the game.
There was no holocaust.

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Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:27 pm)

How much do you suppose Zuendel and/or his wife and supporters are paying Weber for mentioning Zuendel?

I don't think Weber mentions Rudolf who, I am sure, would never pay Weber anything. Weber knows all too well that Rudolf despises him--and rightly so.

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Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:47 pm)

What follows is a carefully prepared position statement by Weber about the "Holocaust issue" as he puts it. This is from the IHR's own website on a page entitled: "About Us." Please read it carefully. Weber is really so clever!

The Holocaust Issue

Since its founding, IHR books, articles and conference speakers have dealt with a broad range of historical topics. But probably the best-known and most controversial aspect of its work has been its treatment of the Holocaust issue.

The IHR is sometimes mischaracterized as a “Holocaust denial” organization. This smear is completely at variance with the facts. The Institute does not “deny the Holocaust.” Every responsible scholar of twentieth century history acknowledges the great catastrophe that befell European Jewry during World War II.

All the same, the IHR has published detailed books and numerous probing essays that call into question aspects of the orthodox Holocaust extermination story, and highlight specific Holocaust exaggerations and falsehoods. IHR publications have devoted considerable attention to this issue because it plays an enormously significant role in the cultural and political life of America and much of the world. As a number of Jewish scholars have acknowledged, the “Holocaust” campaign is a major weapon in the Jewish-Zionist arsenal. It is used to justify otherwise unjustifiable Israeli policies, and to extort enormous sums of money, especially from European countries and companies.

In some countries – including France, Germany, Austria and Israel – it is a crime to dispute the official or orthodox view of “the Holocaust.” Many persons who have challenged the official view of this chapter of history have been imprisoned, fined and forced into exile.


Does that count as strike "two," or strike "three?" If not, why not?

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:21 pm)

Fritz, you seem to be argung semantics.

And you said:
Does that count as strike "two," or strike "three?" If not, why not?

This is why not:
Just a few of the 'gas chambers' debunking books sold by the IHR http://www.ihr.org/main/books.shtml :

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Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:58 pm)

But when Weber goes on the Hannity & Colmes Show he doesn't sell any of those books. Amazon.com sells far more revisionist books than the IHR. So why not leave your estate to Amazon.com?

When Weber says we are "questioning" the holocaust, he minimizes what we are trying to do. I think he is rather insulting when he characterizes revisionism in that way. I'm not "questioning" the holocaust and neither did or does Art Butz. Some of us are calling it a hoax. That's a lot more than merely "questioning."

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Postby BradleySmith » 1 decade 2 years ago (Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:34 pm)

Quote: Some of us are calling it a hoax. That's a lot more than merely "questioning."

The folk on this Forum know what we mean when we say "it." The public does not. Is it a "hoax" to argue that an 800-year-old Jewish culture in Eastern Europe was destroyed by the Germans in two years or so? In the public mind, that's part of "it," and I do not think that that part of "it" can be demonstrated to be a "hoax." Part of our work is to take revisionist arguments to a main stream audience. Having a rigid definitiion for the newspeak term "Holocaust," which is to be used on all occasions, is self defeating, and it contributes to the further fragmentation of an uncertain, disorganized, substantially ineffective revisionist "community."

We will all disagree with one another about this or that. Carto, following the example of one of his many mentors, used to say "let a thousand flowers bloom." I agree with Carto on this one. We need to communicate with the folk in our communities, including media, much more than we need to condemn each other. Of course, it is more difficult to talk effectively about the H. in public, face to face, than it is to condemn revisionists, safely, via the internet.

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Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 2 years ago (Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:52 pm)

Hey Bradley,

Interesting post, but I think it would be more accurate to say that "zionism" destroyed the 800 year old Jewish culture in Europe. Some Jews in Bergen Belsen stayed there until 1950 because they didn't want to go back to their original countries. They stayed at Belsen until they could go to Israel. No operation Keelhaul for them, like for the Ukrainians, where they were forced back to their countries. Nazism might have tried to end European Jewry via immigration, but it failed. Zionism, which existed before and after Hitler is way more responsible and it largely succeeded.

Zionism even ended their vernacular language.

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Postby BradleySmith » 1 decade 2 years ago (Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:09 pm)

Interesting post, but I think it would be more accurate to say that "zionism" destroyed the 800 year old Jewish culture in Europe.


Men take families from their homes by force, not ideologies. Men run governments, not ideologies. It was men who ordered the invasion of Iraq, not Republicn theory. It was German men who tore Jewish families from their homes in Eastern Europe, not "Nazism." Men do these things in "the name of" -- but men do them. Americans are responsible today for the killing, maiming, and displacement of perhaps millions of innocent unarmed civilians in Iraq --- in the name of "democracy" of course. But it is American men who do the shooting, the bombing, and all the rest of it, not democracy.

German men, American men. In the name of ideology perhaps, but ideology itslef doesn't kill anyone --- even tho it is the product of men.

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Postby Breker » 1 decade 2 years ago (Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:48 pm)

BradleySmith wrote:
Interesting post, but I think it would be more accurate to say that "zionism" destroyed the 800 year old Jewish culture in Europe.


Men take families from their homes by force, not ideologies. Men run governments, not ideologies. It was men who ordered the invasion of Iraq, not Republicn theory. It was German men who tore Jewish families from their homes in Eastern Europe, not "Nazism." Men do these things in "the name of" -- but men do them. Americans are responsible today for the killing, maiming, and displacement of perhaps millions of innocent unarmed civilians in Iraq --- in the name of "democracy" of course. But it is American men who do the shooting, the bombing, and all the rest of it, not democracy.

German men, American men. In the name of ideology perhaps, but ideology itslef doesn't kill anyone --- even tho it is the product of men.

It was ruthless Jewish landlords, men, that evicted families from their homes in impoverished post WWI Germany.
It was Zionist men who dominated the outrageous Nuremberg show trials.
Well placed men of Zionism forced masses of Jews to go to Palestine. And as is to be expected, these Jews are now called "Holocaust" victims.
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Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 2 years ago (Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:32 pm)

Hey Bradley,

Instead of defending Mark Weber which seems to be about all you have done on this forum for the last few months, why not spend a lot more time improving your newsletter? Your newsletter really is a mess.

When I saw something I wrote in your previous issue, I was embarassed. Maybe you can get Mark Weber to proofread for you. What the heck, it's worth a try. Just ask him. He's not doing much else anyway

And before you make any more broad generalizations about mankind and the history of the poor suffering Jews, do some serious reading. It's about time, isn't it?

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