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Postby Sailor » 1 decade 6 years ago (Wed Aug 06, 2003 8:13 am)

Only in 1989 did the states prosecutor in Wuppertal, Majorowski, accuse and the courts subsequently sentence Holocaust deniers, who alleged that in Auschwitz less than four Million people were gassed (Strafverfahren (Penal case) 12 Js 1037/89). To allege in Germany, that anything less than 4 Million were gassed is a criminal act, according to the Wuppertal court.

However when Pressac published, that only 470,000 to 550,000 Jews were gassed in Auschwitz, the German authorities did not find that this is a “belitteling” of the Nazi crimes and punishable in the sence of StGB §130, Abs. 3.

Then Fritjof Meyer, leading editor of “Der Spiegel”, a popular leftwing weekly in Germany, reduced in an essay last year the number of Auschwitz deaths again drastically to a few hundred thousand and also shifted the gas chambers from Krema II and III to two farm houses. This put him clearly in conflict with the German criminal law, the StGB §130, the case of people incitement (denying and belitteling Nazi crimes). But nothing happened to him.

Now Gitta Sereny, a well known Jewish journalist and highly esteemed Holocaust researcher in Great Britain, published a new book: The German Trauma: Experiences and Reflections 1938-2001, was interviewed by Times, which made this statement, which is highly punishable in Germany:

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“Her merciless desire for facts, facts that Auschwitz was no extermination camp, did not make her only friends. She attacked bluntly that the evilness in Hitler was tied to the death of the Jews, and only to the Jews. She says that she disapproves of the word “Holocaust” … .
»Why in the world did all these people make a holy cow out of Auschwitz … a terrible place for sure – but it was not an extermination camp.«

Will she be arrested by the modern German Gestapo?

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Postby Karl S » 1 decade 6 years ago (Fri Aug 08, 2003 6:06 am)

Sailor wrote:Will she be arrested by the modern German Gestapo?


No, these people are a frontage so the German politicians can say that their country is a democracy. They will never go to jail.

It’s like the old days in the communist countries, they had "democratic" elections, but you could only vote on one party. :lol:

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Postby Sailor » 1 decade 6 years ago (Fri Aug 08, 2003 9:26 am)

Karl S wrote:No, these people are a frontage so the German politicians can say that their country is a democracy. They will never go to jail.

It’s like the old days in the communist countries, they had "democratic" elections, but you could only vote on one party. :lol:


That may become legally quite tricky.

The German Horst Mahler, lawyer, revisionist and troublemaker, was told by the German authorities a week ago that his passport is not valid to travel to Poland. If he would go there anyways he may face imprisonment for up to one year.

Mahler planned with his followers a trip to Auschwitz to inspect the “place of crime” because of the new findings based on new archival findings in an article by the senior Spiegel editor Fritjof Meyer. (356,000 victims gassed). Professor Dr. Rita Süssmuth, ex-minister and president of the lower house of the German parliament is also connected with the magazine in which Meyer’s article was published.

Mahler planned a festive symbolic ceremony at the site, indicating that the only way for a reconciliation between Jews and Germans is the truth.

Mahler then charged Meyer and Süssmuth for incitement of people, including himself as honorable co-accused. Also other citizens accused themselves for distributing Meyer’s article.

But the prosecutors in Bochum, Bielefeld and Berlin stopped the proceedings because of insufficient suspicion.

http://www.dsz-verlag.de/Artikel_03/NZ33/NZ33_2.html

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Postby Sailor » 1 decade 6 years ago (Fri Aug 08, 2003 10:07 am)

Another thought:

What will happen to Zündel after his expulsion to Germany if he claims:

Why am I arrested and penalized, while Meyer, Pressac, Süssmuth and Sereny go scot free?

I think that the German authorities don’t want Zündel back.

The consequences to the Holocaust story and related politics are almost not predictable. Including the Zündel affair.

There may be a huge publicity about this whole Holocaust mess, and this is exactly what the German politicians don't want and try to avoid with all means at their disposal.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Fri Aug 08, 2003 11:58 am)

Sailor said:
What will happen to Zündel after his expulsion to Germany if he claims:

Why am I arrested and penalized, while Meyer, Pressac, Süssmuth and Sereny go scot free?

I think that the German authorities don’t want Zündel back.


I agree 100% with this analysis. The judeo-supremacists have shot themselves in the foot again. I'm sure they thought Zundel would be in Germany by now, locked-up, and out of their hair; but no.

The powers that be realize that even more light will shown upon the fraud of the 'holocau$t' as alleged. They are in one hell of a situation.

Remember...Zundel has been in solitary confinement for months and no charges have been brought against him, he has never been convicted of a violent crime of any kind.

The Believers/Thought Police have met the enemy, it is themselves.

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Postby Sailor » 1 decade 6 years ago (Fri Aug 08, 2003 12:45 pm)

What I am afraid of is that something may happen to Zündel: He "died suddenly of a heart attack", or "he committed suicide". Or is assassinated by perpetrators never found.

This was done before successfully (remember Baer, the last Auschwitz commandant?).

I don't think that the present German power elite would shy away from something like this. And the Jews have always the Israeli Mossad to help them out.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Fri Aug 08, 2003 2:54 pm)

Yes, key Germans who supposedly 'confessed', but curiously died in captivity. Recall SS Gerstein and all his absurd, contradicting 'confessions'.

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Postby AngelofDeath » 1 decade 6 years ago (Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:29 am)

Sailor wrote:What I am afraid of is that something may happen to Zündel: He "died suddenly of a heart attack", or "he committed suicide". Or is assassinated by perpetrators never found.

This was done before successfully (remember Baer, the last Auschwitz commandant?).

I don't think that the present German power elite would shy away from something like this. And the Jews have always the Israeli Mossad to help them out.

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Francois Duprat

Killed for distributing the French language version of "Did Six Million Really Die?"
Background and contribution:
A French writer, historian and educator, Duprat had introduced the booklet "Did Six Million Really Die?" in France by publishing the first French translation. He also published "The Mystery of the Gas Chamber." He was only 38 years old when his car was blown up by a bomb and he was assassinated on March 18, 1978. His wife, who was with him in the car, lost the use of her legs in this terrorist act. Two Jewish groups took credit for the assassination - the "Jewish Remembrance Commando" and another group who identified itself as ". . . Jewish Revolutionary Group." The assassins were never found.

http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debat ... duprat.jpg

http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/victims/

The best way to end all of this in one big swipe is a coming out day for revisionists. In countries were denial is illegal, have a day where a few hundred people confess in public or on the web that there is no proof that Nazis ever gassed anyone. There would be so many people to prosecute that it would be impossible for ADL types to spin it (by attacking the accused person's character, etc). There would be too many people to single out. There would also be a focus on the arrests by the media in each country. This would be the death knell IMO.

I good time to do this would be a few weeks after Spielberg's new movie (about the Irving Trial) is released in Europe.


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