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Dachau Gas Chamber

Postby catleugh » 1 decade 1 year ago (Fri May 02, 2008 2:13 pm)

Not only do I not believe that the Gas Chamber at Dachau was ever used, I think it was probably never a Gas Chamber in the first place. I suspect that this room was altered (Bins added - doors added - ceiling altered), at some time after Dachau was liberated. What I can't figure out is what was the real use for this room. For example, might the decompression chamber have been housed in here.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 1 year ago (Fri May 02, 2008 2:43 pm)

catleugh,
The laughable 'Dachau gas chamber' lie has been shot to pieces here. Just search 'Dachau'.

examples:
- In an 1980 newspaper interview he said: "What we've heard is that six million Jews were exterminated. Part of that is a hoax." And what part was the hoax? Dr. Larson, who told his biographer that to his knowledge he "was the only forensic pathologist on duty in the entire European Theater" of Allied military operations, confirmed that "never was a case of poison gas uncovered."

The original U.S Army investigation after liberation, described the alleged gas chamber as having a 10 ft ceiling beset with "brass fixtures" (Doc L-159, No 47 of 79th Congress, 1st Session (Exhibit NO. USA-222; IMT, XXXVII, p.621)). The ceiling today is 7.6 ft and the fake showerheads are made of sheet metal.

Hmm.

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If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Postby Greg Gerdes » 1 decade 1 year ago (Fri May 02, 2008 6:05 pm)

You don't believe that the Dachau gas chamber was really a gas chamber catleugh? Be careful where you say such things:

Remarkabout Nonsense about the Holocaust
Fined for Stating a Fact about Dachau
Thursday January 24, 2002

Nazi Leader's Grandson Fined Over Online Quotes

MUNICH, Germany (Reuters) -- A grandson of Adolf Hitler's deputy Rudolf Hess was fined for public incitement on Thursday after putting remarks by Hess on the Internet.

Hess was quoted as saying there were no gas chambers in Dachau concentration camp near Munich during the Second World War and that the Americans installed them afterwards to scare tourists, Munich district court said.

Wolf Andreas Hess, a 23-year-old student, had only been trying to assemble historical documentation about his grandfather, the defense counsel said.

Hess was fined $1,184.

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Postby Greg Gerdes » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sun May 04, 2008 1:42 pm)

catleugh:

Not only do I not believe that the Gas Chamber at Dachau was ever used, I think it was probably never a Gas Chamber in the first place... What I can't figure out is what was the real use for this room.


Why don't you ask Michael Shermer catleugh? On his trip to Europe, where he claims to have visited Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka (among other camps), he also claims that he visited Dachau.

Maybe when Shermer gets around to publishing the results of his "firsthand investigation of the claims" of Belzec, Sobibor and Trebinka, he'll include his findings on Dachau?

Here’s a montage of Michael Shermer quotes from Denying History: “The culmination of years of research… our purpose… to present the historical facts that refute Holocaust denial… To debunk the deniers can’t we just go there and see them for ourselves? The answer, of course, is “yes.”… We can no longer ignore the deniers, calling them names and hoping they will go away… We cannot remain silent anymore. It’s time to respond… Not only is it defensible to respond to the deniers, it is, we believe, our duty… Many of our arguments draw on specialized research into the claims of the deniers that took us… to the Nazi extermination camps themselves… we went to Europe to conduct research at the camps, in particular at… Dachau, Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec, Mauthausen… We wanted to see for ourselves just what evidence there is at the camps and to take the opportunity to examine firsthand the claims… Much of the research is the type of work professional historians normally do… analyzing ground and aerial photographs… in order to make proper interpretations, we must review the physical evidence… Like criminologists solving a crime, we piece together the myriad bits of evidence until a conclusion emerges from the morass of data… How is it that so much physical evidence can come to be doubted?”


So don't be so sure of your belief that homoicidal gassings didn't take place in Dachau catleugh, because, despite what legitimate historians and forensic experts have concluded, Michael Shermer, based on his "firsthand investigation" of Mauthausen, claims that there really were homocidal gassing there. And he actually has published his sophomoric pseudo-scientific "findings" of that "investigation" in his novel - Denying History.

But not a word about Dachau in that novel, and no information at all as to what kind of scientific studies he used to come to the conclusion that the most recent stories of Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka are true. No physical evidence at all. Not a single mass grave. Not a single pound of crushed bone. Not so much as a single tooth! So Shermer must have some kind of special knowledge that, for some reason, he refuses to share with anyone. And maybe that's the case with Dachau as well.

You can ask Shermer yourself catleugh. His email address is at the bottom of this link here:

http://www.vho.org/tr/2002/3/tr11shermer.html

You will get back to us and let us know what Shermer thinks about the gas chamber at Dachau, won't you catleugh?

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Postby simon1003 » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sat May 24, 2008 5:21 pm)

One of the striking things about the alleged gas chamber at Dachau is its' proximity to the prisoner's accomodation, it's about 50 metres or less from the nearest of the barrack blocks. It's not hidden or camouflaged, except by some tall trees.

And the building itself is not much bigger than a modern 3 or 4 bedroom family home.

There's only the one path to the building, which runs straight past the the aforesaid barrack blocks, and the the building itself is inside the camp walls.

Logic alone tells you that you don't have a mass execution area that is in more or less total view of the rest of the prison population, riots would ensue if prisoners saw their fellow inmates disappear never to be seen again, camp gossip alone would be enough.

It appeared to me that this was the camp laundry, cookhouse and/or mortuary, nothing else.

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Postby catleugh » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sun May 25, 2008 12:04 am)

simon1003

It appeared to me that this was the camp laundry, cookhouse and/or mortuary, nothing else.


I don't think much of the cookhouse idea, but for a room so close to both the disinfection chambers, and the crematorium, I could believe laundry (surely clothing that had been disinfected with ZyclonB would need to be washed as well) or mortuary. I get the impression that the room was probably altered, making it look like a gas chamber, to help justify the massacre, without trial of the SS guard by American Forces, which was surely a war crime, whatever else happened at Dachau.

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Postby PotPie » 1 decade 1 year ago (Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:09 am)

Greg Gerdes wrote:So don't be so sure of your belief that homoicidal gassings didn't take place in Dachau catleugh, because, despite what legitimate historians and forensic experts have concluded, Michael Shermer, based on his "firsthand investigation" of Mauthausen, claims that there really were homocidal gassing there. And he actually has published his sophomoric pseudo-scientific "findings" of that "investigation" in his novel - Denying History.


Funny how exterminationists remark that people such as Bradley Smith are making a "killing" by holocaust denial which is why they engage in it, yet nobody questions people such as Shermer who literally make millions of dollars peddling such intellectually hollow trash to the public.


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