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Bone crushing machine?

Postby Lupa » 1 decade 1 year ago (Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:03 am)

Some months ago y saw the video "onethird of holocaust", were the author describes the difficulty to make disappear bones.

Looking at Wikipedia y found this pearl.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderkommando

On the right end you see three guys looking at the camera in front of a machine, the text reads:

Members of a Sonderkommando 1005 unit pose next to a bone crushing machine in the Janowska concentration camp

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First of all y never heard about a concentration camp called Janowska.

Is it brand new?

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Postby MrNobody » 1 decade 1 year ago (Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:36 am)

This is just another glaring example of the Holocaust Industry's inability to get their lies straight.

wikipedia states that in November 1943 the Nat-zees were in the process of "obliterating" the camp & their crimes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janowska

However in a caption of a similar photo to the above "bone crushing machine" image the USHMM states thusly :
Bone-crushing machine used to grind human bones in order to obtain fertilizer in the Janowska concentration camp. Poland, August 1944.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/media_ph.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005279&MediaId=824

Please make careful observation of the next image

Points of interest in Lupa's image
1. where is the proof that they are members of a Sonderkommando?
can anyone say "Polish Commission hatchet job"!

2. Where is the proof that this machine is a Bone Crusher?
Could it not just as easily be a windlass (winch) or part of an Electrical Generator?, note the more than substantial Mounting Frame

3. If they are sonderkommando engaged in the business of "Bone Crushing" Why are they standing next to a DESTROYED machine?
Please note the missing section of wooden flooring & the charred boards

4. This machine could just as easily be a Rock Crushing Machine making gravel from rock supplied by a nearby quarry, considering the state of Roads in the East, the availability of CC Labor & the German Army's need for resupply to the Eastern Front & the fact that the machine is Trailer mounted for portability makes the most sense for this machine.
However one must also make note of the fact that this machine lacks ANY type of Power coupling & this only makes sense if this machine is in fact an Electric Generator & one in which the Germans were attempting to Salvage when the camp was abandoned!

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 1 year ago (Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:45 am)

It's difficult to stop laughing. This bizarro, hilarious bone crushing machine tale simply amplifies just how absurd the 'holocaust' story is.

We've been there and done that, see the lie about the 'bone crushing machine' crushed here:
'Bone-crushing "Holocaust"?'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1159
excerpts:
So if I understand this correctly: 600,000 dead Jews were in Belzec burried first, then disinterred and cremated on open air pyres. The ashes and human remains were buried again together with the wood ashes and earth. Then the whole mess was disinterred again as part of the 1005 program and run through a bone-crushing machine?
It is just an old piece of mining or paving equipment!

It looks like a trommel screen, i.e., a drum separator machine for sifting ore or gravel.

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Postby Lupa » 1 decade 1 year ago (Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:55 pm)

MrNobody wrote:Points of interest in Lupa's image
1. where is the proof that they are members of a Sonderkommando?
can anyone say "Polish Commission hatchet job"!


None of the guys wears inmates uniforms , but I am not shure if that is a sufficient proof for discarding this point.

Two of the guys wear original german "Knobelbecher" , that definitely doesn´t form part of the inmate uniform in no way.

But for example after the "liberation" there are sufficient dead german soldiers to pull their boots off.

2. Where is the proof that this machine is a Bone Crusher?
Could it not just as easily be a windlass (winch) or part of an Electrical Generator?, note the more than substantial Mounting Frame


I don´t think that it is an electric generator, the size or the belt-wheel is too big for a fast spinning electric engine.


3. If they are sonderkommando engaged in the business of "Bone Crushing" Why are they standing next to a DESTROYED machine?
Please note the missing section of wooden flooring & the charred boards


That point is deadly for the argued photo of a Sonderkommando doing their job.

4. This machine could just as easily be a Rock Crushing Machine making gravel from rock supplied by a nearby quarry, considering the state of Roads in the East, the availability of CC Labor & the German Army's need for resupply to the Eastern Front & the fact that the machine is Trailer mounted for portability makes the most sense for this machine.
However one must also make note of the fact that this machine lacks ANY type of Power coupling & this only makes sense if this machine is in fact an Electric Generator & one in which the Germans were attempting to Salvage when the camp was abandoned!


That makes sense, the size of the belt-wheel makes this point straight.
You couple a fast spinning power supply via belt, maybe the proper engine of the truck, to drive the gravel-maker.

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Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 1 year ago (Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:26 pm)

Yes, and in the Hilberg passage mentioned in the movie "One Third of the Holocaust" the Nazis are searching for a bone crushing machine in a Jewish ghetto of all places.

That, right there, is so absurd. First of all the Nazis would want killing to be secret from the Jews. It's like asking the Jewish ghetto if they have any extra cannisters of Zyklon B.

Secondly, cremation is against Jewish Law. So it's one of those sacrilegious aspects of the myth. Not unlike the claim that the Nazis put a ceremonial curtain from a synagogue in front of the entrance to the gas chamber. (If memory serves, the Reader's Digest episode of One Third of the Holocaust talks about that.)

The bone crusher story is a chillingly scary story of nazi sacrilege. The Nazis aren't even going to dispose of the bodies according to Jewish Law, and the Jews in the Judenrat are so witting (compliant) that they would even look for a bone crushing machine for the Nazis in their own ghetto.

How ridiculous.

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Postby Focus » 1 decade 1 year ago (Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:43 am)

I'm starting to get the idea that the mobile gas vans were followed by the mobile crematoria which were followed by the mobile bone crushers.
Those crafty Germans! Maybe they got the idea from the movie
Nothing But Trouble.

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Postby Lupa » 1 decade 1 year ago (Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:30 am)

Focus wrote:I'm starting to get the idea that the mobile gas vans were followed by the mobile crematoria which were followed by the mobile bone crushers.
Those crafty Germans! Maybe they got the idea from the movie
Nothing But Trouble.


After an extensive historical research , sponsored by the USHMM , I found the components of the mobile "Endlösungs" Unit.

The gasvan:

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followed by the mobile crematorium

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and at last the mobile bonecrushing machine

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The staff of the historical department will have the new versión of the holocaust ready for 12:00 tomorrow.

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Postby MrNobody » 1 decade 1 year ago (Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:00 am)

Lupa wrote:
Two of the guys wear original german "Knobelbecher" , that definitely doesn´t form part of the inmate uniform in no way.


Nearly all European Armies at that time shared common uniform items, the Soviet Army used the same type of boot apart from the upper section which was made from imitation leather.
Other items that were almost indistinguishable without a close up examination included under shirts, foot wraps, mess tins, rucksacks, entrenching tools, map cases & ammo pouches.

One huge misconception is that German Boots are thought to have been Black & polished to a high shine, in fact they are what's been termed Brown rough outs. The boots having been constructed with the rough side out & un-dyed this reduces wear on the Sock or foot wraps & reduces rashes & blistering on long marches, Pre-War & Early War the boots were treated with a neutral colored or Black leather dubbing for Waterproofing, but by '41 this practice was actually banned.
It's the nature of B&W photography to make them appear Black.
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Postby MrNobody » 1 decade 1 year ago (Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:03 am)

Lupa, where'd you get the photo of the Field Kitchen & Limber, I want one!
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Postby Lupa » 1 decade 1 year ago (Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:26 am)

MrNobody wrote:Lupa, where'd you get the photo of the Field Kitchen & Limber, I want one!


Here it is:

http://www.buergerwehr-dietenheim.de/Te ... kueche.htm

it´s in german , I hope no problem for you.

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Postby KostasL » 1 decade 1 year ago (Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:24 pm)

Lupa wrote:
Focus wrote:I'm starting to get the idea that the mobile gas vans were followed by the mobile crematoria which were followed by the mobile bone crushers.
Those crafty Germans! Maybe they got the idea from the movie
Nothing But Trouble.


After an extensive historical research , sponsored by the USHMM , I found the components of the mobile "Endlösungs" Unit.

The gasvan:

Image

followed by the mobile crematorium

Image
and at last the mobile bonecrushing machine

Image

The staff of the historical department will have the new versión of the holocaust ready for 12:00 tomorrow.

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The Holocaust itself is mobile, one would say.

Death camps are mobile...moving from West Germany to Auschwitz and then to other sites... 8)

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Postby PotPie » 1 decade 1 year ago (Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:24 pm)

Odd that such devices were never reported in use at Auschwitz-Birkenau, the mother of all extermination centers. There, allegedly, a cement slab was laid where inmates would pound and sift ash, by hand, before having it buried and/or trucked off. So much for German efficiency.

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Postby muller » 1 decade 1 year ago (Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:23 am)

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The machine shown on the photo is a rotating screen, where gravel or crushed stone was separated according to grain size, a necessary condition for high quality concrete. The steel sheet contraption on the top is a feeding funnel, into which the raw material was fed from a conveyor belt.Such a rotating screen could be combined with a stone crusher. In that case, the stone crusher would have been much bigger than the screen, and the feeding funnel would have been superfluous. That's why I think the machine was used for treating natural gravel, not for crushed stone.
The three men on the photo are wearing civilian clothes. Construction workers, especially cement mixers, often wore knee-length boots in order to avoid staining their trousers with cement slurry. Today, they wear rubber boots, but during the war, rubber was extremely scarce in Germany, and since leather production continued on peace-time level, leather boots were used instead.
I earned my first wages after WW II as a Bauhilfsarbeiter or auxiliary construction worker and remember our machinery and our clothing quite well.

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Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 1 year ago (Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:32 am)

Hi Muller,

Welcome to the forum.

When you say "rotating screen" I'm not sure what you mean. Is it that the cylinder using centrifugal force to separate rock/pebble size?

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Postby MrNobody » 1 decade 1 year ago (Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:56 am)

Well Done Herr Muller, welcome aboard!
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