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My Trip To Auschwitz

Postby Mythos » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:03 am)

In August 2007 I travelled to Auschwitz. Originally I was supposed to travel there with a friend of mine but he couldnt make it, so I went there myself. The trip was free for me in a way. I had booked a hotel at Oswiecim called Kamieniec. I spent 4 days in Poland, Oswiecim, and I visited the camp every day.
http://www.auschwitz.org.pl/html/eng/zw ... dex.html#8

I flew to Krakow, took the bus to Oswiecim that went straight to Auschwitz camp (once in an hour). Then I took a cab to the hotel. Then I wen to the camp, that was only 3 km away from the Kamieniec hotel.

Main Camp

First I went to Auschwitz bar, and looked for beer in the menu (I had heard a rumor that there would have been beer available). There was no beer. Then I went to the main camp.

First thing I did, and the most important thing, was that I DID NOT watch the Allied propaganda film that they show for free in their theater. And the second thing I did, also an important thing, I DID NOT TAKE a tour guide. It is not mandatory.

I walked around the camp by myself. I did not listen horror music with my mp3 player. I did not think too much about the Jews and their horror stories. I just walked around the camp looking it objectively.

The main camp was an interesting sight. This is pretty much the impression I got from it:
Work makes you free;
Food from the Auschwitz kitchen;
Laundry at the Auschwitz laundry;
Mail from the Auschwitz post office;
Entertainment at the Auschwitz Theater;
Little fun at the Auschwitz brothel;
And of course refreshing swimming at the Auschwitz SWIMMING POOL.

The only thing that didn't quite fit to the picture was the atrocity propaganda about the gassings at the morgue/air raid shelter/warehouse, with its' hollywood chimney and its' flimsy wooden door with the glass window.

The main camp seemed smaller than I had thought earlier.

Tour guide

Later I took a tour guide with a group of about 10 persons (if I remember correctly it was about 10-20 euros). So there we went around the camp. We went inside many barracks that were turned into exhibits. A personal guide, for all day would have been about 100 euros.

When we went to the hair exhibit building, I pointed out to the group and guide that most of the hair was cut because the inmates were deloused so that diseases would not spread in the camp.

When we went to Zyklon B cans exhibit, I quoted Pressac and stated that 95-98% of the gas was used for delousing. And I also emphasized the fact that Zyklon B was used as a delousing gas already during WW1. The guide pretty much agreed.

When we were on one building which had a view to the Auschwitz swimming pool, I looked at it and noted to a Japanese girl that:
"Look, there's a swimming pool!".
Then the girl looked at it with amazement at her eyes and asked whether inmates swam on it, and I replied:
"I dont know, maybe... I wasnt here during the war".
Then the girl went and asked the guide about the swimming pool. The guide had to admit, unwillingly, that:
"Well it was built as a water reservoir to look like a swimming pool, but yes some former inmates said that prominent people swam on it".

When we went towards the 'shooting wall' and I could see the swimming pool on the left I noted loudly:
"Hey, there are ladders in the swimming pool, it really does look like a swimming pool!"
Guide, who was propably a bit irritated, said again something like:
"Yes some inmates indeed said prominent people swam on it."

Later guide told that 20,000 people were shot in front of the 'wall'. Then eventually we went to the Crematorium 1, and I emphasized, many times, that it was a reconstruction and that the ovens were a common practise in all labor camps (non-extermination camps).

Later, the tour continued to Birkenau for a little while and in there we visited the toilet barracks and prisoners barracks (only about 30 minutes were spent to Birkenau).

At the end of the tour I asked the guide following questions:
"How about the other killing methods, was it Diesel engines?"
'Yes.'
"Did Nazis make soap from the Jews?"
'No, not in general.'
"How about lamp shades?"
'No.'
"Was there an electronic conveyor belt in Auschwitz that led to the blast furnace?"
'Mm-hmm... no.'
"How about sausages, did Nazis also make sausages out of Jews? I heard one survivor claiming this."
'Hmm... no, you shouldnt believe everything you hear.'

Well, I agree!

Then I asked about the gassings, especially in Krema 2, and the guide said that over 500,000 were gassed there. And then he went on to say that the ruins of Krema 2 are sinking every year because of the marshy land, and that the museum had recently renovated the ruins so that they would last longer.

Couple of drunken idiots

Later, again on the main camp, I met couple of Finnish men (I'm Finnish too) who were very drunk. The other one was wearing a Finland-T-shirt. I talked with them and they told me that a bit earlier they had been kicked out of the camp because the one of them had crawled into the cremation oven at the main camp. The other one of them was indeed covered with white dust, that was similar to the dust inside the cremation ovens. So I thought that that was indeed the case. I was surprised that they were only thrown out of the camp, that they got away with that easily.

Birkenau

And yes I also spent about 2 days in the Birkenau, looking at the usual stuff: Prussian blue delousing walls (nowdays the doors to these chambers are locked), desperately looking at the nonexistent holes in the roof of Krema 2 (I couldnt even find the holes made after the war even though I spent couple of hours altogether), and I went inside into Krema 2 'gas chamber' ruins to look for the nonexistent prussian blue staining and I found out that the ruins were indeed different than before, because of the renovations made by the museum, and of course no prussian blue residues were to be found in any other 'gas chamber' ruins. And the only real gas chambers available there were the delousing gas chamber in Zentralsauna building, in which hot air and Zyklon B was used. And of course nobody claims that anyone was gassed there...

All in all, Birkenau was a big concentration camp, in which prisoners certainly were packed tightly, in their barracks. I guess the numerous disease epidemics would have made it an unpleasent place to be during the war...

The only thing that really angered me was to see old Germans (with their German accent) asking the guides "oh, why did they do IT?"...

In conclusion: Auschwitz was not a scary or depressing experience for me, but it certainly was an interesting experience. I spent only about 200-300 euros to the trip, including the airplane costs.



Lots of photos, about 100 or more, available at my blog:
http://moranen.blogspot.com/
(scroll down enough, there is lots of other revisionist stuff and links)
Last edited by Mythos on Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:48 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby Kiwichap » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:32 pm)

Auschwitz must be the most disappointing tourist attraction in the world. After 60yrs of hype, I would expect to see in the death camp the remains of mass graves, gas chambers, diesel engines, fake shower heads, prussian blue everywhere...

But what do we see? Brothels, swimming pools, concert halls, laundries, kitchens, Post offices...

How disappointing. I think I've been ripped off.
There was no holocaust.

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Postby Laurentz Dahl » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:57 am)

Kiwichap wrote:Auschwitz must be the most disappointing tourist attraction in the world. After 60yrs of hype, I would expect to see in the death camp the remains of mass graves, gas chambers, diesel engines, fake shower heads, prussian blue everywhere...

But what do we see? Brothels, swimming pools, concert halls, laundries, kitchens, Post offices...


I have heard that the Polish food is generally aweful. Is that true? How disappointing that the Stammlager bar lacked beer(!) I have wanted to go there ever since I glimpsed it in the Cole video? By the way, what would one call an English-style pub in Auschwitz? "The Flaming Chimney"? "The Oven and the Baby"? :lol:

Thanks for an interesting read!
The photos on your blog are great. Some of the pictures taken inside the ruins of the "the gas chamber" of Krema II are among the best I have seen yet.

This photo of a brick wall outside really shows the extent of the iron blue formations in the Zyklon B delousing chambers:

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Postby MrNobody » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:14 am)

Mythos
Did you also point out to the other tourists all the fake post war built watchtowers featured all over the place right next to the wartime photos that don't even show them as having been installed?
It's a nice touch, however it's only effective on those who already believe in the holocaust BS.

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Postby diaz52 » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:08 pm)

Laurentz Dahl wrote:By the way, what would one call an English-style pub in Auschwitz? "The Flaming Chimney"? "The Oven and the Baby"? :lol:


They need a micro-brewery onsite that produces Zyklon Beer.. Haw haw!! Maybe one day when the world wakes up from this nonsense someone will come out with such a brew.
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Postby Algernon » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:14 pm)

Great photos on your site. I'm sure I'd be kicked out if I went to one of those ghoulish theme parks.


By the way, what would one call an English-style pub in Auschwitz? "The Flaming Chimney"? "The Oven and the Baby"?


LD I just about wet myself over that one. Outstanding.

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Postby Lupa » 1 decade 1 year ago (Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:46 am)

When I see the photos I remember the story of the famous open air cremation in huge pits made in the soil.

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If someone looks now at this:

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Look at the drainage channel , very instructive!

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Here a fine view of the freatic level at that point.

and there are more photos at

http://moranen.blogspot.com/

to see the evidence of the swampy nature of that soil , which needed channels for drainage everywhere.

The best place for huge pits, indeed!!

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Postby Mythos » 1 decade 1 year ago (Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:46 am)

Laurentz Dahl wrote:
Kiwichap wrote:Auschwitz must be the most disappointing tourist attraction in the world. After 60yrs of hype, I would expect to see in the death camp the remains of mass graves, gas chambers, diesel engines, fake shower heads, prussian blue everywhere...

But what do we see? Brothels, swimming pools, concert halls, laundries, kitchens, Post offices...


I have heard that the Polish food is generally aweful. Is that true? How disappointing that the Stammlager bar lacked beer(!) I have wanted to go there ever since I glimpsed it in the Cole video? By the way, what would one call an English-style pub in Auschwitz? "The Flaming Chimney"? "The Oven and the Baby"? :lol:

Thanks for an interesting read!
The photos on your blog are great. Some of the pictures taken inside the ruins of the "the gas chamber" of Krema II are among the best I have seen yet.

This photo of a brick wall outside really shows the extent of the iron blue formations in the Zyklon B delousing chambers:
Well the food, in Auschwitz bar, was fine. There were many good options in the menu.

Thanks. The photos from Krema II ruins were taken when it was dark outside, at about 21-22, so there was dark inside and I couldnt quite take the best photos possible (I just blindly took several photos). Nowdays museum dont want people going inside, at least they've put signs in front of the ruins saying "keep off the ruins".

Yes the photos IMO too illustrate it well. Most interestingly, if I'm correct, it seems that prussian blue has strangely penetrated this far:
http://bp2.blogger.com/_AB36D4g8j4Q/R7r ... G_2805.JPG

This photo is taken inside the delousing room:
http://bp2.blogger.com/_AB36D4g8j4Q/R7s ... G_3226.JPG
however, I myself was not inside to take this photo because the doors are locked, there was a hole in the wall so I put the camera through the wall and took the photos.
If an 'alien abductee survivor' said it, it must be nonsense.

If a 'Holocaust Survivor' said it, it must be true!

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndvalue.html#ftnref355

http://moranen.blogspot.com/2008/02/aus ... leiri.html

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Postby Mythos » 1 decade 1 year ago (Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:51 am)

MrNobody:
we were not taken that far to look at the watchtowers. We just stayed near the gate and went to the toilet barracks and prisoner barracks, for 30 minutes, to look at the wooden beds (that werent that scary really). So no, I didnt have a chance to point out the towers.
If an 'alien abductee survivor' said it, it must be nonsense.

If a 'Holocaust Survivor' said it, it must be true!

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndvalue.html#ftnref355

http://moranen.blogspot.com/2008/02/aus ... leiri.html

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Postby Mythos » 1 decade 1 year ago (Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:59 am)

Lupa:
that picture of Rudolf and the ditch in front of Zentralsauna, is nowdays covered up. I dont know why, they've changed the camp often.
If an 'alien abductee survivor' said it, it must be nonsense.

If a 'Holocaust Survivor' said it, it must be true!

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndvalue.html#ftnref355

http://moranen.blogspot.com/2008/02/aus ... leiri.html

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Postby Isokirk » 1 decade 1 year ago (Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:12 pm)

Nice photos.
I thought I heard somewhere that they have now started admitting to visitors that the 'gas chamber' on the tour is a 'reconstruction'. Is this true?

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Postby MrNobody » 1 decade 1 year ago (Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:27 pm)

Mythos wrote:Lupa:
that picture of Rudolf and the ditch in front of Zentralsauna, is nowdays covered up. I dont know why, they've changed the camp often.


They have to keep changing the camp layout to fit the Legend, otherwise the scam will be over.
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Postby Hektor » 1 decade 1 year ago (Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:02 am)

MrNobody wrote:
Mythos wrote:Lupa:
that picture of Rudolf and the ditch in front of Zentralsauna, is nowdays covered up. I dont know why, they've changed the camp often.


They have to keep changing the camp layout to fit the Legend, otherwise the scam will be over.
In this specific case I am willing to believe that the trench was part of some construction work, which has been finalized by now.

To their credit, they didn't remove the swimming pool. There are however signs of "home improvement" with buildings like the crema's.


Anyway good to see some new pictures to show to those that can not visit the camp.

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Postby Mythos » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:12 am)

And now I'm on youtube!

"Crashing through lies and disinformation; It's Tobulkin!" (Paraphrasing [disinfo-] Alex Jones show.)

Search at youtube "Auschwitz Trip", and see for yourselves.

This is my super cool channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Tobulkin
If an 'alien abductee survivor' said it, it must be nonsense.

If a 'Holocaust Survivor' said it, it must be true!

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndvalue.html#ftnref355

http://moranen.blogspot.com/2008/02/aus ... leiri.html

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Postby Mythos » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:54 am)

And I have to add that since I'm finally putting new [Finnish] essays to the blog (plus of course one english essay titled 'Quotations from You Gentiles' http://moranen.blogspot.com/2008/08/quo ... tiles.html ) the photos are no longer right away on the front page of the blog, so here are the links to 'My Auschwitz Trip':

My Auschwitz Trip Main Camp:
http://moranen.blogspot.com/2008/02/aus ... leiri.html

My Auschwitz Trip - Birkenau Part 1:
http://moranen.blogspot.com/2008/02/aus ... osa-1.html

My Auschwitz Trip - Birkenau Part 2:
http://moranen.blogspot.com/2008/02/aus ... osa-2.html
If an 'alien abductee survivor' said it, it must be nonsense.

If a 'Holocaust Survivor' said it, it must be true!

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndvalue.html#ftnref355

http://moranen.blogspot.com/2008/02/aus ... leiri.html


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