Report: Auschwitz blueprints 'found' in Berlin apartment

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Postby Turpitz » 1 decade 2 years ago (Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:18 am)

Don't worry, the holocaustians shall provide huge multi-ovens very soon.


No they won't, because that would have to consist of genuine physical evidence, which they cannot forge like paperwork. Their attempt at overcoming this problem is mass graves that no-one can find, and the ridiculous notion of stuffing more than one corpse in a muffle.


But i ask you :

IF i provide you evidence or show you huge gass chambers and efficient krematoriums, WOULD YOU believe that the holocaust happened and all your questions about it, would be answered?


That would be impossible to answer unless I could see the scale and efficiency of the operations.

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Postby KostasL » 1 decade 2 years ago (Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:12 pm)

Turpitz wrote:
But i ask you :

IF i provide you evidence or show you huge gass chambers and efficient krematoriums, WOULD YOU believe that the holocaust happened and all your questions about it, would be answered?


That would be impossible to answer unless I could see the scale and efficiency of the operations.


I am not talking about the scale and efficiency of homicidal operations.
Because the scale and efficiency :lol: are already proven by the numbers of holocaust "survivors". 8)

I am talking about "physical evidence" of the "killing weapon".

IF such existed, they would only add another question : "why didn't the Nazis use these in order to have the Jews exterminated ?"
When you realize that the Holocaust is a LIE, then all of a sudden, ALL your questions, ALL bizarre and strange things, disappear, and ALL things make sense, at last.

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Postby Turpitz » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:25 am)

I am not talking about the scale and efficiency of homicidal operations.
Because the scale and efficiency are already proven by the numbers of holocaust "survivors".


I would have to disagree with you on that one. The professional eye-witnesess have proved nothing, except to show the world what a load of pathetic liars they are.

I am talking about "physical evidence" of the "killing weapon".


So was I! Unless I can see the "killing weapon" how can I judge it's capablities?

IF such existed, they would only add another question : "why didn't the Nazis use these in order to have the Jews exterminated ?"


Not if the "killing machine" was realistically capable of accomplishing it's task.

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Postby KostasL » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:59 am)

Turpitz wrote:
I am not talking about the scale and efficiency of homicidal operations.
Because the scale and efficiency are already proven by the numbers of holocaust "survivors".


I would have to disagree with you on that one. The professional eye-witnesess have proved nothing, except to show the world what a load of pathetic liars they are.


I mean that the "minimal" scale and efficiency are proven as there were millions of "survivors".

That also proves, of itself, as a fact, that there was no plan or intention to exterminate the Jews.

These "survivors" talk by their numbers, you see, so that any words of theirs are not valid "if" talking about holocaust. Not all of them believed that lie and not all of them lied. The few that found the courage to speak were silenced and isolated.


If one wants to stay at the Holocaust side, must be either a lier for his own reasons/interests or stupid.

I am neither. 8)
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Postby KostasL » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:01 am)

Turpitz wrote:
IF such existed, they would only add another question : "why didn't the Nazis use these in order to have the Jews exterminated ?"


Not if the "killing machine" was realistically capable of accomplishing it's task.


And you wouldn't ask why are all these millions of Jews around, after ww2 ? :shock:
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Re: Report: Auschwitz blueprints 'found' in Berlin apartment

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 1 year ago (Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:31 pm)

The Big Lie technique at work. In spite of the ease in debunking the racist Zionist / Jewish Supremacist lies, they keep on going as if nothing was ever said.

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Nazi death camp blueprints given to Israel
By DAVID RISING and MATTI FRIEDMAN, Associated Press Writers David Rising And Matti Friedman, Associated Press Writers [8/27/09]
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090827/ap_ ... _auschwitz
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BERLIN – Sketched on yellowing parchment, the 29 blueprints presented to Israel's prime minister Thursday lay out the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz in chilling detail, with gas chambers, crematoria, delousing facilities and watch towers drawn to scale.

"There are those who deny that the Holocaust happened," Benjamin Netanyahu said as he accepted the documents as a gift to Israel's Holocaust memorial, where they will go on display next year.

"Let them come to Jerusalem and look at these plans, these plans for the factory of death."


Netanyahu lingered over the large sheets spread on a table. Stamped with the Nazi abbreviation for concentration camp "K.L. Auschwitz," one of the largest featured multi-colored sketches, with barracks and even latrines drawn in detail. Other smaller sheets showed architectural designs of individual buildings, drawn from various angles.

The Israeli leader was accompanied by his wife, Sara, whose father was the only member of his family to survive the Nazi genocide that killed 6 million Jews during the World War II. She watched somberly as the documents, which date from 1941 to 1943, were unfolded.

Also present was Yossi Peled, an Israeli Cabinet minister and former general whose father was killed by the Nazis and whose mother survived Auschwitz in one of the barracks detailed in the blueprints. Peled himself was hidden until age 7 by a family in Belgium who raised him as a Christian. He discovered his Jewish roots in 1948 and was taken to Israel two years later.

In Germany for a visit that combined talks on the Mideast conflict with acknowledgments of the painful past that binds the two countries, Netanyahu drew a clear parallel between the events of the Nazi era and the present day. The world did not do enough to stop the murder of Europe's Jews, he said, and must be careful now to take rapid action against "armed barbarism."

"We cannot allow those who wish to perpetrate mass death, those who call for the destruction of the Jewish people or the Jewish state to go unchallenged," Netanyahu said.

Though he did not explicitly mention Iran, his comments were a clear reference to the Tehran regime and its nuclear program, which Israel sees as a grave threat and wants blocked by stronger international sanctions. Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said Israel should be "wiped off the map."

Axel Springer Verlag, the publisher of the mass circulation Bild newspaper, obtained the Auschwitz blueprints last year from a German man who said he found them when cleaning out an apartment in what was formerly East Berlin.

The publisher and Germany's federal archive have confirmed the documents' authenticity.

Numbering found on the back of the plans indicates they may have been taken from an archive, possibly the collection of documents on the Third Reich kept by the Stasi.

The documents were displayed for several weeks earlier this year in the lobby of Bild's headquarters in Berlin. The newspaper's editor, Kai Diekmann, said the publisher decided to give the sketches to Israel to ensure that as many people as possible could see them.

"These plans have an important function — they remind us of a crime that, with the passing of time, seems ever more incomprehensible," Diekmann said. "It is of the utmost importance to continue to be reminded of it."

While they are not the only original Auschwitz blueprints that still exist — others were captured by the Soviet Red Army and brought to Moscow — they will be the first for Israel's Yad Vashem memorial, its chairman, Avner Shalev, told The Associated Press.

"This set is a very early one, which was found here in Berlin, from the autumn of '41," Shalev said. "It brings a better understanding of the whole process, and the intention of the planners of the complex, and from this perspective it is important."

Shalev said the sketches will be on display in Jerusalem beginning Jan. 27 as part of a special exhibit marking the 65th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz.

The blueprints include general plans for the original Auschwitz camp and the expansion of the Auschwitz-Birkenau camp, where most of the killings were carried out. They were initialed by the head of the SS, Heinrich Himmler, and Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Hoess.

One of the drawings, dated Oct. 14, 1941, shows plans for construction of a "Waffen SS prisoner of war camp" with rows of what appear to be barracks. A notation in the bottom right says it was drafted by a prisoner identified only by his number: "Nr. 471."

German historian Ralf Georg Reuth, who reviewed the documents after they were discovered, noted that it was common to have prisoners draw up the plans for gas chambers where they would later be killed.

More than 1 million people, mostly Jews, died in the gas chambers or through forced labor, disease or starvation at Auschwitz, which the Nazis built after occupying Poland.

Later Thursday, Netanyahu visited a house on Berlin's Wannsee Lake that was the site of an infamous Jan. 20, 1942, meeting at which top Nazis formalized plans for the systematic killing of Europe's Jewish population.

Germany and Israel, which was established three years after the Nazi defeat, today enjoy close ties. On Thursday, Chancellor Angela Merkel underlined Germany's special commitment, saying it was her country's obligation to "defend Israel always."

After those statements, she and Netanyahu shared a spontaneous and warm handshake.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: Report: Auschwitz blueprints 'found' in Berlin apartment

Postby friedrich braun » 1 decade 1 year ago (Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:49 pm)

Note the usual purposefully obscurantist, metaphysical, religious language used. I can't think of any other event, apart from the transubstantiation, that requires this level of gobbeldygook. We're in the realm of the fantastic and mythological. The Holocaust is akin to a Babylonian mystery cult.
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Re: Report: Auschwitz blueprints 'found' in Berlin apartment

Postby ASMarques » 1 decade 1 year ago (Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:49 am)

friedrich braun wrote:Note the usual purposefully obscurantist, metaphysical, religious language used. I can't think of any other event, apart from the transubstantiation, that requires this level of gobbeldygook. We're in the realm of the fantastic and mythological. The Holocaust is akin to a Babylonian mystery cult.


What's even more interesting, not even saving face seems to matter any longer at all. :oops:

Gone are the old days when a few people like Arno Meyer were still looking for a way out of the corner the myth had painted itself in.

Now all that seems to matter is to go on serving, in completely shameless fashion, a rotten to the core product to those willing to gulp it down...

Unbelievable.

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Re: Report: Auschwitz blueprints 'found' in Berlin apartment

Postby Hessen-Bürger » 1 decade 1 year ago (Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:31 pm)

Chancellor Angela Merkel has handed over these blueprints to Israel underlining Germany's special commitment to Israel, saying it was her country's obligation to "defend Israel always.".

In Germany for a visit that combined talks on the Mideast conflict with acknowledgments of the painful past that binds the two countries, PM Benjamin Netanyahu drew a clear parallel between the events of the Nazi era and the present day. "The world did not do enough to stop the murder of Europe's Jews," he said, "and must be careful now to take rapid action against 'armed barbarism.' "

"We cannot allow those who wish to perpetrate mass death, those who call for the destruction of the Jewish people or the Jewish state to go unchallenged," Netanyahu said.

http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-engli ... -bild.html

Still pushing GUILT onto gentiles worldwide for not stopping THE Holocaust in order to give a green light to the Zionists for continued subjugation and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.

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Re: Report: Auschwitz blueprints 'found' in Berlin apartment

Postby labview1958 » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:05 am)

I saw the news just now. German PM showing Israel's PM the found sketches of the gas chamber. Why should she show those sketches to him?

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Re: Report: Auschwitz blueprints 'found' in Berlin apartment

Postby Hieldner » 3 years 10 months ago (Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:50 pm)

A late follow-up on this:
The chairman of Yad Vashem would send back an excited letter of thanks - on official paper of the Mossad, not the prime minister.
(Google translation of https://www.haaretz.co.il/1.1278184)
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