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Craven Doubletalk from Mark Weber at the IHR

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 1 year ago (Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:09 pm)

In a new essay by Mark Weber dated January 2009 and entitled: "How Relevant is Holocaust Revisionism?" we have the following concluding paragraphs:

"This shift has also been noticed at the Institute for Historical Review. Over the past ten years, sales of IHR books, discs, flyers and other items about Holocaust history have steadily declined, along with inquiries about Holocaust history and requests for interviews on this subject. At the same time, and obviously reflecting broader social-cultural trends, there has been a marked rise in sales of IHR books, discs, flyers and other items about Jewish-Zionist power, the role of Jews in society, and so forth. This has been matched by an increase in the number of inquiries and requests for interviews on those issues.

Jewish-Zionist power is a palpable reality with harmful consequences for America, the Middle East, and the entire global community. In my view, and as I have repeatedly emphasized, the task of exposing and countering this power is a crucially important one.7 In that effort, Holocaust revisionism cannot play a central role.
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One influential statesman who seems to understand this is the former prime minister of Malaysia, Mahathir Mohammed. In a much-discussed address delivered at an international conference in October 2003, he spoke forthrightly against Jewish-Zionist power, while making clear that he accepts the familiar “Six Million” Holocaust narrative. In the global struggle against this power, he said, “we are up against a people who think ... We cannot fight them through brawn alone. We must use our brains also … The Europeans killed six million Jews out of twelve million. But today the Jews rule this world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them.”8

Setting straight the historical record about the wartime fate of Europe’s Jews is a worthy endeavor. But there should be no illusions about its social-political relevance. In the real world struggle against Jewish-Zionist power, Holocaust revisionism has proved to be as much a hindrance as a help."
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Well, perhaps one reason for why "sales of IHR books, discs, flyers and other items about Holocaust history have steadily declined, along with inquiries about Holocaust history and requests for interviews on this subject" is Mark Weber. If "sales" really were an important criteria for success, one could have sold porno books or Indian Jones films instead. Why not give that a try, Weber--and resign from the IHR?

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Postby KostasL » 1 decade 1 year ago (Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:09 am)

Friedrich Paul Berg wrote:In a new essay by Mark Weber :

Jewish-Zionist power is a palpable reality with harmful consequences for America, the Middle East, and the entire global community. In my view, and as I have repeatedly emphasized, the task of exposing and countering this power is a crucially important one. In that effort, Holocaust revisionism cannot play a central role.

Setting straight the historical record about the wartime fate of Europe’s Jews is a worthy endeavor. But there should be no illusions about its social-political relevance. In the real world struggle against Jewish-Zionist power, Holocaust revisionism has proved to be as much a hindrance as a help."


It does not matter to me, whether Holocaust revisionism has proved to be as much a hindrance as a help, in the real world struggle against Jewish-Zionist power.

It does not matter if it is less interesting financially, either.

It's all about Truth, Justice and Freedom. These are the motives of most revisionists and these are the motives of mine.

Mark Weber thinks else and his point of view is respected.
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Postby Percy » 1 decade 1 year ago (Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:33 am)

in my opinion f. p. berg is quite right. i would like to remember the following essay:
http://www.vho.org/GB/c/GR/IHRCrisis.html
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Postby Ketcher » 1 decade 1 year ago (Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:49 pm)

Friedrich Paul Berg wrote:Well, perhaps one reason for why "sales of IHR books, discs, flyers and other items about Holocaust history have steadily declined, along with inquiries about Holocaust history and requests for interviews on this subject" is Mark Weber. If "sales" really were an important criteria for success, one could have sold porno books or Indian Jones films instead. Why not give that a try, Weber--and resign from the IHR?

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I agree with Mr. Berg concerning the record of Weber over the years. It has been downhill all the way. Under Weber's "Leadership" he has turned a once productive organization, into a paper tiger. This tome from him is just another attempt at justifying his salary and his indolent behaviour. I am quite sure if things had been different, and Germar Rudolf had the reigns of the IHR with its mailing list, the organization would be in far better shape. It is all about leadership and Weber has failed the test over the years. Any normal organization would of fired Weber long ago.

Holocaust Revisionism is even more vital today, as noted in the London Times article, about how the 'Holocausters' are now forcing German school children to attend former concentration camp sites.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 468635.ece

On two occassions now Weber has come out publicly and announced that he believes the "Holocaust" happend, and second he sees no future in Holocaust Revisionism, while he is head of a "Holocaust Revisionist Organization". At what point do the 'yes men' of the IHR board say enough is enough?
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Postby Goethe » 1 decade 1 year ago (Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:15 pm)

A real yawner for me. Don't Like Weber & the IHR? Fine, don't support them. Next.
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Postby Breker » 1 decade 1 year ago (Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:00 pm)

It would appear that Mr. Weber, after being battered from pillar to post by the likes of Germar Rudolf, finds it necessary to defend his current unproductive status, which can only be described as laziness.
Weber seems to feel that because Jewish Supremacists had inordinate power prior to WWII that the "Holocaust" mythology is unimportant. That position simply denies the importance of the fictitious gas chambers and the mythical six million in creating the state of Israel. It is the state of Israel, it's racist genocidal policies, and those that promote Israeli interests that is today wreaking havoc.
Mr. Weber appears to be nothing more than another David Irving. Both are aging rapidly and becoming tired of the fight.
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Postby Ketcher » 1 decade 1 year ago (Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:00 pm)

Goethe wrote:A real yawner for me. Don't Like Weber & the IHR? Fine, don't support them. Next.


I do not think it is a "yawner" when decent people are being conned by sending Weber money, thinking he is doing something, when in fact he does nothing. As Germar Rudolf pointed out http://www.vho.org/GB/c/GR/IHRCrisis.html, the last book that Weber published for the IHR was The Founding Myths of Modern Israel years ago. ONE BOOK !

Weber is a grave robber stealing money from dead people.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 1 year ago (Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:33 pm)

Weber said:
Setting straight the historical record about the wartime fate of Europe’s Jews is a worthy endeavor. But there should be no illusions about its social-political relevance. In the real world struggle against Jewish-Zionist power, Holocaust revisionism has proved to be as much a hindrance as a help.
I strongly disagree with Weber on this. The huge number of hits that CODOH gets certainly speaks to the relevance of 'holocaust' Revisionism.

And let's face it, CODOH is the cutting edge, it's the IHR that has become irrelevant.

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Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 1 year ago (Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:03 pm)

Since for Weber "Holocaust revisionism has proved to be as much a hindrance as a help" and since Weber does not deny the holocaust anyway, what is Weber doing at the IHR? Why doesn't he go somewhere else like to his darling "American Renaissance" organisation? Rabbi Mayer Schiller will be so happy to welcome him there.

Well, the answer is m-o-n-e-y, folks. At the IHR, all Weber has to do is fool a few retarded board members to draw an extremely generous salary for himself.

He seems to be looking for a new office manager at $16/hour. If he finds someone desperate enough to actually work for him, he will have even less to do than he does at the moment.

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Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 1 year ago (Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:40 am)

Hi Ketcher,

Do you know where the rest of Rudolf's VHO article is? The part about Rudolf's experience with the IHR. It's been deleted by Rudolf from the VHO link.

Not to be off-topic, but I never knew it was Rudolf who digitized the JHR. I had always given credit in my mind to Weber for that.

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Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 1 year ago (Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:33 am)

Mark Weber has finally come out of the closet.

Everyone is entitled to believe whatever they want about the so-called "holocaust," and that includes Weber. But Weber's timing for his big coming-out event was really interesting. At the very time when much of the world's attention was on the extraordinary, holocaust revisionist conference in Teheran, Weber was elbowing himself onto nationwide television in the US to undermine that conference--and all who had worked so hard to make that conference happen, or to participate. They were getting so much attention--and Weber just had to upstage them. Weber might have tried to just keep his mouth shut--but he couldn't.

Some of the more recent essays and writings from Weber merely show what many of us who have known about Weber for decades. Weber never really was one of us to begin with.

Weber is entitled to think and write whatever he wants. But, as "director" of the IHR he also destroyed the Journal for Historical Review and reduced the IHR to an internet newsclipping service. I think its high time for Weber to move on to Nizkor where he truly belongs.

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Postby Moderator » 1 decade 1 year ago (Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:51 am)

It's apparent the Weber lacks credibility with experienced and knowledgable Revisionist scholars, as we can see in this thread. Unless someone has something unique to contribute here, the moderators have decided to lock this thread later today and leave it as is. It appears we're going around and around. Thanks.
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Postby Ketcher » 1 decade 1 year ago (Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:24 pm)

Carto's Cutlass Supreme wrote:Hi Ketcher,

Do you know where the rest of Rudolf's VHO article is? The part about Rudolf's experience with the IHR. It's been deleted by Rudolf from the VHO link.

Not to be off-topic, but I never knew it was Rudolf who digitized the JHR. I had always given credit in my mind to Weber for that.


http://www.vho.org/GB/c/GR/IHRCrisis.html#ftnref9

Safe to say CCS that the Rudolf critique on the lack of productivity of Weber and the IHR is damming. 27 books printed by one man and 1 book by an 'organization'. That speaks for itself.

To conclude this thread, support CODOH with your donations, we should support TRUE revisionist organizations and CODOH is one of them. Let those who wish to take advange of us and our money wither on the vine.

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Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 1 year ago (Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:09 pm)

From an anonymous source based on a conversation with Mark Weber:

Mark Weber called me after I posted this on j&e and we talked for two hours. I still do not know why he did not go to Tehran. I do not know why he separates himself from "we". He basically still does agree that we cannot defeat the Jews in this historical period, more or less.

He even calls new books on Holocaust Revisionism "worthless" (one book he cited as worthless and as a money loser was Graf's book "Colossus With Feet of Clay" that rebuts Hilberg's Destruction of European Jewry, in both the one and three volume versions--he is wrong). He notes that no one really cares about the Holocaust anymore and so focusing on the Holocaust is a waste of (his) time. By my standard, Weber has sworn off Revisionism for the more fun job of attacking Jewish power. By Weber's standard, he is being "realistic", both ideologically and financially. He argues that attacking Jewish power, rather than the Holocaust, is where the action is.

Perhaps.

As we talked, I visited the website and it is, just like what people have forwarded to me of it: a bit of Middle East and other news aggregation. OK article selection but like hundreds of other sites. I asked him why he was not interested in the spread of Revisionism in the Middle East: (1) I suggested a book on Revisionism in Iran, a book on the Israeli concentration camp system, but he shrugged both off; and (2) I asked why he did not have one Revisionist title translated into Arabic each year and he said it would be a money loser and that if Arabs wanted to learn about Revisionism then it was their own responsibility to do so.

Perhaps.

I think he has just gotten tired of Holocaust Revisionism and wants to move on. (I asked him this directly but he did not respond.) But this conviction spells the end of the IHR as a Holocaust revisionist institution. Mark is a smart guy and he should move on to someplace where his talents can be better used, maybe like CNIF.


So why doesn't Weber simply resign from the IHR? I thinks it 's the m-o-n-e-y, folks! And besides, almost anywhere else he might have to do some actual work.

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