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Postby MrNobody » 1 decade 6 months ago (Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:03 am)

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Postby Mythos » 1 decade 6 months ago (Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:16 am)

Hello Mr. Michael Santomauro. I'll propably buy the book. I just want to ask this: When are the new Holocaust revisionist publications published?

In Preparation:

Volume 19: Germar Rudolf, Carlo Mattogno, Auschwitz: The Case against Insanity (ca. 300 pp.), appears not before spring 2006
After the downfall of Jean-Claude Pressac (see vol. 14 of this series), Dutch-Jewish cultural historian Prof. Robert van Pelt was sent into the battle against revisionism. This book exposes Prof. van Pelt as a blind-sighted, incompetent fanatic driven by an ideology bordering at insanity. His bungling is much worse than that of the fairytale teller Pressac.

Volume 22: Carlo Mattogno, Healthcare in Auschwitz (in translation, some 130 pages)
An overview of the vast measures taken by the Auschwitz camp authorities to save the lives of their inmates.

Volume 23: Carlo Mattogno, The Crematory Ovens of Auschwitz (in translation; some 1,500 to 2,000 pages)
An exhaustive technical study – and a refutation of mass murder claims based upon false concepts of those crematoria.


Planned:

Richard Krege, The Krege Report. Ground Penetrating Radar Research at the Operation Reinhardt Camps Treblinka, Belzec, and Sobibor
With high-tech devices, the author ventured out in search of the alleged mass graves and open air incineration sites, where millions are claimed to have perished – with surprising results.

John Clive Ball, Air Photo Evidence, 2nd revised edition
German and Allied air photos taken from various sites of alleged mass extermination of the so-called Holocaust reveal what really happened and refute many allegations. This edition comes with 3D-pictures and 3D-glasses so you can see for yourself!

Jürgen Graf, Germar Rudolf, ‘Eyewitnesses’ for the Holocaust
So many witnesses confirmed it independently and so many perpetrators confessed their crimes even without physical abuse – thus, how can we doubt that witches rode on broomsticks and had sex with the devil?

Germar Rudolf, The Auschwitz Trial. An Analysis of the World's Largest Show Trial The 77 volumes of investigation files leading to the 1964/65 Frankfurt Auschwitz trial as well as life audio tapes of many witness statements during the trial are analyzed based upon the most recent research results on Auschwitz, relying among others on thousands of original wartime documents released in the early 1990s.


When are these finally published? Your estimation/guess?

Especially I would like to see the Krege Report finally, so I dont actually have to rent a ground radar with 1000-2000 € and go to Reinhard camps to produce "Mythos Report"
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Postby Barrington James » 1 decade 6 months ago (Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:02 pm)

This book is bound to be a success for as they say “To be a success in life all one needs is ignorance and confidence”. The author reminds me very much of Christopher Columbus and his claims to have discovered America by completely ignoring the 50 million people who were living there at the time.

Does this poor soul think he will be the first to have investigated the holocaust from an impartial point of view? Does he not realize that most of us were firm believers in anything and everything about the holocaust until the facts got in the way of our previous faith in this dreadful event?

Does he not realize that no one has ever denied the real holocaust, the death of hundreds of thousands of people in the camps of disease and starvation, the murder of untold numbers in Eastern Europe as acts of revenge for the Jewish led Bolshevik revolution, or as reprisals for the criminal murder by partisans of German soldiers, the destruction of roads, railway, bridges and other illegal acts of sabotage in a war that went crazy? Remember most of the 60 million victims of this war died on the Eastern Front and no doubt some of their numbers are numbered in the holocaust.

On the contrary, we prefer to learn the entire truth of the holocaust as we would any other event in history. We wish to use science, mathematics, logic and all the other tools of modern day criminal investigations to find out what really happened. We look with great alarm at any and all fines, beating, threats, penalties, jail terms, loss of jobs, fire bombs, and so on that people use to try to prevent this study from happening. We also ask why these tactics have been used for this historical event and no other.

It has been our belief that we cannot cry out “Never again” if we do not fully understand what happened the “first time”. Small wonder the ignorant masses permitted Palestine and Iraq to have happened and small wonder the world is no better off than it was 60 years ago when we know so little of the truth about events such as the holocaust.

Having said the above, I wish him well. However, how he thinks he will ever be able to publically publish the truth without suffering the fate of the others who have tried to do so is beyond me. Good luck.

BJ
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Postby KostasL » 1 decade 6 months ago (Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:13 am)

Barrington James wrote:This book is bound to be a success for as they say “To be a success in life all one needs is ignorance and confidence”. The author reminds me very much of Christopher Columbus and his claims to have discovered America by completely ignoring the 50 million people who were living there at the time.

Does this poor soul think he will be the first to have investigated the holocaust from an impartial point of view? Does he not realize that most of us were firm believers in anything and everything about the holocaust until the facts got in the way of our previous faith in this dreadful event?

Does he not realize that no one has ever denied the real holocaust, the death of hundreds of thousands of people in the camps of disease and starvation, the murder of untold numbers in Eastern Europe as acts of revenge for the Jewish led Bolshevik revolution, or as reprisals for the criminal murder by partisans of German soldiers, the destruction of roads, railway, bridges and other illegal acts of sabotage in a war that went crazy? Remember most of the 60 million victims of this war died on the Eastern Front and no doubt some of their numbers are numbered in the holocaust.

On the contrary, we prefer to learn the entire truth of the holocaust as we would any other event in history. We wish to use science, mathematics, logic and all the other tools of modern day criminal investigations to find out what really happened. We look with great alarm at any and all fines, beating, threats, penalties, jail terms, loss of jobs, fire bombs, and so on that people use to try to prevent this study from happening. We also ask why these tactics have been used for this historical event and no other.

It has been our belief that we cannot cry out “Never again” if we do not fully understand what happened the “first time”. Small wonder the ignorant masses permitted Palestine and Iraq to have happened and small wonder the world is no better off than it was 60 years ago when we know so little of the truth about events such as the holocaust.

Having said the above, I wish him well. However, how he thinks he will ever be able to publically publish the truth without suffering the fate of the others who have tried to do so is beyond me. Good luck.

BJ


Any honest research and examination of the Holocaust and WW2 is welcome. I wish him well, too.
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Postby Flavian Greece » 1 decade 6 months ago (Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:54 pm)

Even though I'm happy about the publication of this book, I would be happier to see a revisionist journal back in print - one without Nationalist and racial content, for that we have The Barnes Review.

Other than that, I'm just wondering... will they really let Germar go? Or will they bring against him new charges?

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Postby Turpitz » 1 decade 6 months ago (Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:00 pm)

Even though I'm happy about the publication of this book, I would be happier to see a revisionist journal back in print - one without Nationalist and racial content, for that we have The Barnes Review.


Doesn't bother me in the least.

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Postby Michael Santomauro » 1 decade 6 months ago (Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:45 am)

An interview with the the author of the new book: DEBATING THE HOLOCAUST: A New Look At Both Sides


Question: Hello Prof. Dalton. What brought you into studying the 'Holocaust' and 'Holocaust Revisionism'?

Answer: I have had a long-standing interest in World War II, and was always curious about the unexplained aspects of the Holocaust. I was aware for many years of "deniers" who were questioning certain parts of the conventional story, but never bothered to really dig into the issues for myself. Then in 2006 we had the uproar over the Holocaust Conference in Teheran, and that rekindled my interest. I read books on both sides of the debate and realized, to my surprise, that the revisionists had a surprisingly strong case. But it was never presented in a form that the average reader could comprehend. Hence my reason for writing this book.

Question: It's obvious to many that revisionism has been suffering the past few years, with turncoats, jailings, financial shortfalls, etc...Why did you choose to put out your new work *Debating the Holocaust* at this time?

Answer: There was no special reason for publishing now. I started serious research in 2006, and this was the soonest I could have a book ready for publication. Incidentally, revisionism is suffering because it relies on very few individuals, and they have been severely harassed or jailed in recent years. This, to me, indicates its success.

Question: Please briefly explain what the purpose of your book serves. (*I understand that this will likely be a short summation of the synopsis already given on the CODOH forum*).

Answer: The purpose of the book is to provide the first, and only, balanced look at the arguments and responses on both sides. I do not ally myself with either side, and I do not accept arguments from either side without first subjecting them to critical examination. Secondly, I hope to have provided all necessary basic facts on the Holocaust, to allow the reader to do further research on their own, and to be well-informed. Third, I have introduced a new method of looking at the death statistics, called a death matrix , that shows very clearly what is alleged (by either side) to have happened. Both sides are guilty of playing a bit of a shell game with the public, and the death matrix is a way to expose the whole picture to critical scrutiny.

Question: Why is your book different from all the other Theses & Dissertations publications?

Answer: Debating the Holocaust: A New Look At Both Sides is different because it examines the revisionist case from a neutral perspective, and because it discusses the strongest counterarguments that traditionalism has to offer. Also, it is the only book to encompass all of the central arguments in a concise form. Lastly, it is the newest TADP book, and hence has more current information than the other books, which are now 4 or more years old.

Question: What type of issues and specific arguments do you examine in your new study?

Answer: There are many issues and arguments addressed, but among the most important would be: (a) unreliability of witness accounts, (b) lack of factual justification for the 6 million figure, and its lengthy pre-war history, (c) the near-complete disappearance of critical death camps: Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, and Chelmno, (d) lack of material evidence of human remains (ashes, bones, teeth), or disturbed earth for mass graves, (e) functional difficulties with homicidal gassing, using either Zyklon or diesel engine exhaust, (f) wartime air photos that show little evidence of mass murder, and (g) the historical trends of Jewish population figures, and large number of present-day survivors.

Question: What have you personally learned from your experience in writing this book?

Answer: I cover this in the Epilogue, but briefly, I was quite surprised to see the strength of revisionist arguments, and the weakness of traditionalist replies. This is all the more striking given the small number of ill-equipped, poorly-funded revisionists, and the large number of well-financed orthodox writers. This, combined with the visceral and irrational response to revisionism, causes me to suspect that there truly are serious problems with the standard account.

Question: The world has just witnessed the force brought against a Catholic Bishop (Richard Williamson) who publicly challenged the official 'Holocaust' tale. Do you fear for your career and reputation with this new work?

Answer: Obviously there is some concern, but in principle, one should never fear the truth. There are always those in power who are corrupt, and who would resort to crude attempts to silence those who might shine a harsh light on this controversy. But we cannot let them run our (professional) lives. If we live in a nation where merely talking about this debate invites recrimination, then I think our system is intellectually and morally bankrupt and thus probably not worth keeping.

Question: Why do you believe so few academics are willing to challenge the established WWII story?

Answer: Many academics are Jewish/Zionist, and thus could never bring themselves to look at this debate objectively. The others are largely spineless, and will avoid any issue that threatens to bring the slightest inconvenience to themselves even something as slight as the disapproval of their Jewish colleagues. The other problem is that university administrators fear the wrath of Jewish or Zionist donors; any discussion of Holocaust revisionism will hit them in the pocketbook.

Follow-up questions are fine.

T.D.

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DEBATING THE HOLOCAUST: A New Look At Both Sides by Thomas Dalton, PhD

Publisher's Note: This is a non-Revisionist title for Theses & Dissertations Press. It will be the first book on the Holocaust, in publishing history, that will not take a Traditionalist or a Revisionist point of view. When you purchase this book, one-third of the proceeds will go to Germar Rudolf and his family.


Amazon.com: Debating the Holocaust: A New Look At Both Sides: Thomas Dalton, Ph.D, Michael Santomauro, David Barnett: Books
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Founded in 2000 the publishing company Theses & Dissertations Press is at the center of a worldwide network of scholars and activists who are working -- often at great personal sacrifice -- to separate historical fact from propaganda fiction. The founder of Theses & Dissertations Press is Germar Rudolf. Who is currently serving prison time for his published works and will be released on July 4, 2009.

As the new director of Germar Rudolf's American publishing division, I wish to express my outrage that the Holocaust, unlike any other historical event, is not subject to critical revisionist investigation. Furthermore I deplore the fact that many so-called democratic states have laws that criminalize public doubting of the Holocaust. It is my position that the veracity of Holocaust assertions should be determined in the marketplace of scholarly discourse and not in our legislatures bodies and courthouses.


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Postby MrNobody » 1 decade 6 months ago (Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:46 am)

(f) wartime air photos that show little evidence of mass murder


???? come again?

Don't you mean "wartime air photos that show a complete & utter lack of evidence for any mass murders??
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Postby IlluSionS667 » 1 decade 6 months ago (Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:11 am)

I don't want to spoil the fun here, but how can a book published by an organisation owned by Germar Rudolf and known for revisionist publications be truely objective is the book happens to support revisionism?

Or let's look at it from another perspective : doesn't explicitly pushing this book as the first objective book on the Holocaust automatically imply that all Revisionist books have an agenda?!

I think it is really naieve and foolish to push this book as the first objective book on the issue.
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Postby KostasL » 1 decade 6 months ago (Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:03 am)

IlluSionS667 wrote:Or let's look at it from another perspective : doesn't explicitly pushing this book as the first objective book on the Holocaust automatically imply that all Revisionist books have an agenda?!


It is foolish to claim that both sides got an agenda as a whole.

Be it Holocaustians or Revisionists.

But as i see it, it is the Revisionists who seek the truth and that seems to be their only motive in most cases.

If a third comes and say : hey i am objective and i only seek the truth then this alone is a revisionist statement!

It is that simple... :roll:
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Postby IlluSionS667 » 1 decade 6 months ago (Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:12 am)

KostasL wrote:If a third comes and say : hey i am objective and i only seek the truth then this alone is a revisionist statement!

It is that simple... :roll:


Revisionists have been claiming to be objective ever since the age of Bardeche and Barnes. If now a revisionist stands up claiming he's the first objective one, then this implies that all revisionists before him were not objective. I don't like that implication and it might actually hurt revisionism when such a book is published by Rudolf's company.
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Postby KostasL » 1 decade 6 months ago (Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:10 am)

IlluSionS667 wrote:
KostasL wrote:If a third comes and say : hey i am objective and i only seek the truth then this alone is a revisionist statement!

It is that simple... :roll:


Revisionists have been claiming to be objective ever since the age of Bardeche and Barnes. If now a revisionist stands up claiming he's the first objective one, then this implies that all revisionists before him were not objective. I don't like that implication and it might actually hurt revisionism when such a book is published by Rudolf's company.


There is no way an objective book that only seeks truth, to hurt anybody.

Be it revisionist or holocaustian. Just not possible.

We stand by the Truth.
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Postby friedrich braun » 1 decade 6 months ago (Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:18 am)

Question: Please briefly explain what the purpose of your book serves. (*I understand that this will likely be a short summation of the synopsis already given on the CODOH forum*).

Answer: The purpose of the book is to provide the first, and only, balanced look at the arguments and responses on both sides. I do not ally myself with either side, and I do not accept arguments from either side without first subjecting them to critical examination. Secondly, I hope to have provided all necessary basic facts on the Holocaust, to allow the reader to do further research on their own, and to be well-informed. Third, I have introduced a new method of looking at the death statistics, called a death matrix , that shows very clearly what is alleged (by either side) to have happened. Both sides are guilty of playing a bit of a shell game with the public, and the death matrix is a way to expose the whole picture to critical scrutiny.


"Both sides..."? Does anyone know what he means here? Examples?

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Postby KostasL » 1 decade 6 months ago (Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:25 am)

friedrich braun wrote:
Question: Please briefly explain what the purpose of your book serves. (*I understand that this will likely be a short summation of the synopsis already given on the CODOH forum*).

Answer: The purpose of the book is to provide the first, and only, balanced look at the arguments and responses on both sides. I do not ally myself with either side, and I do not accept arguments from either side without first subjecting them to critical examination. Secondly, I hope to have provided all necessary basic facts on the Holocaust, to allow the reader to do further research on their own, and to be well-informed. Third, I have introduced a new method of looking at the death statistics, called a death matrix , that shows very clearly what is alleged (by either side) to have happened. Both sides are guilty of playing a bit of a shell game with the public, and the death matrix is a way to expose the whole picture to critical scrutiny.


"Both sides..."? Does anyone know what he means here? Examples?

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Yes, i was wondering, too.

But i guess i have to buy the book. :)
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Postby Michael Santomauro » 1 decade 5 months ago (Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:45 am)

Dear Friends,

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