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Holocaust Museum Shooting

Postby littlefieldjohn » 1 decade 5 months ago (Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:41 pm)

I think this happened about an hour ago, Already the shooter has tentatively been identified as a JamesVon Brunn, i think his website is holywesternempire.org
msm is calling him an extreme right wing fringe white etc I found where stuff about him has been posted on stormfront, diont know if he himself is a member there....... I can't access stormfront right now either

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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 5 months ago (Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:47 pm)

Got a reference?

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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Postby littlefieldjohn » 1 decade 5 months ago (Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:56 pm)

Fox Jews is really playing it up - trying to equate "Anti-Semitism" with mental illness ,White extremism,, etc..Constant talk about extremist" websites
Storm front is flooded right now They are treating this story as if it were the JFK assasination.
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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Postby PatrickSMcNally » 1 decade 5 months ago (Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:29 pm)

It's a wierd story. They tell us that the gunman is in critical condition, they believe it was a one-man job, and then they mention James Von Brunn as under investigation. Meaning what? Did he do the shooting or not? If so, what's being investigated? The man is caught, right? If he didn't do the shooting, and it was a one-man job, then what is there to investigate about anyone else? It's not very clear.

http://news.aol.com/article/holocaust-m ... ing/522206

Gunfire Erupts at Holocaust MuseumBy NAFEESA SYEED, AP
posted: 9 MINUTES AGOcomments: 642filed under: Crime News, National NewsPrintShareText SizeAAAWASHINGTON (June 10) -- An elderly gunman opened fire with a rifle inside the crowded U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum on Wednesday, gravely wounding a security guard before being shot. Authorities said they were investigating a white supremacist as the possible shooter.

The assailant was in critical condition, said Washington, D.C., Mayor Adrian Fenty.

D.C. Police Chief Kathy Lanier said the gunman appeared to have acted alone. He was "engaged by security guards immediately after entering the door" with a rifle, she said.

The museum normally has a heavy security presence with guards positioned both inside and outside. All visitors are required to pass through metal detectors at the entrance, and bags are screened.

But Lanier told reporters at a hastily convened news conference, "The second he stepped into the building he began firing."

Authorities said they were investigating for any possible connection with terrorism or hate crime.

The museum, located just off the National Mall near the Washington Monument, is a popular tourist attraction. It draws about 1.7 million visitors each year.

Dave Unruh, waiting in line to enter the museum, told the Washington Post he heard one gunshot, then a series of four or five. That was followed by someone screaming, “Hit the floor!” He called the experience, “intensely, extremely frightening.”

Roads surrounding the museum were closed at least temporarily and blocked off with yellow tape. Several police cars and officers on horses surrounded the area.

One law enforcement official said James Von Brunn, a white supremacist, was under investigation in the shooting, and a second official said the elderly man's car was found near the museum and tested for explosives. They spoke on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss the investigation.

In a statement, museum spokesman Andrew Hollinger said an assailant shot a museum security officer and "two museum security officers returned fire, hitting the assailant."

At the White House, press secretary Robert Gibbs said he informed President Barack Obama of the events and said the chief executive was "obviously saddened by what has happened."

The museum houses exhibits and records relating to the Holocaust more than a half century ago in which more than six million Jews were killed by the Nazis.
Mark Lippert of LaSalle, Ill., who was in the museum, said he heard several loud pops and saw several schoolchildren running toward him, three with horrified looks on their faces.

Linda Elston, who was visiting the museum from Nevada City, Calif., said she was on the lower level watching a film when she and others were told to evacuate.

"It was totally full of people," Elston said. "It took us a while to get out."

She said she didn't hear any shots and didn't immediately know why there was an evacuation. The experience left her feeling "a little anxious," she said.

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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Postby Lamprecht » 1 decade 5 months ago (Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:59 pm)

The post you're referring to:
And there it goes people, he is now labeled a White Supremacist and the FBI will be looking into other White Supremacist internet posters.

Shooters name is James W. von Brunn. He is connected to website HolyWesternEmpire.

Freya14 posted this later in the thread but thought I would move it to the top http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31208188/?GT1=43001

This just happened, I will link an article as soon as one is up on the net. But this literally just happened a little bit ago. The shooter is in custody and he shot at least one guard.

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/061009_ ... ust_museum

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/ ... 7874.shtml

http://wjz.com/local/shooting.Holacaust ... 39163.html

http://www.wtop.com/?sid=1693510&nid=25

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/origi ... 6652.shtml

FBI Terrorism Task Force is on scene. From what I can gather a lone shooter walked in, pulled out a gun, shot a guard wounding him, and then was immediately shot by two other guards.

Witness said that the shooter came in with a rifle but that is not verified. It is now said to be a shotgun.

The police were notified of the shooting at 12:52 PM. Witnesses claim 5 shots fired. One of the two wounded is in critical condition, unknown who. I think a third was injured by flying glass.

This news reporting is disgusting. Apparently this building is one of the most secure in the nation... wonder why. The reporters ask those they interview how they feel now they know the shooter is a White supremacist? Do you ever hear them ask how they feel now they found out the shooter/bomber was a radical muslim? They now compared this 'terrorist' attack to 9/11.

Shepard Smith said the internet is dangerous while on the phone with Southern Poverty Law Center, and apparently everything we say has not one ounce of truth to it. That is hilarious.

They interviewed a jew and the jew does not understand how you can hate a separate racial group, maybe the reporter should have then asked why it is considered OK for Israeli troops to target non-Hebrew women and children with approval from rabbis?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 473316.ece
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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Postby Thesaint » 1 decade 5 months ago (Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:08 pm)

Sounds like another false flag.The "synagogue bombs and stinger missiles "plot"" fiasco a little while ago fell flat on it`s face.
The Judeo-supremacists are desperate for sympathy after all the bad publicity they`ve been getting due to the Gaza slaughter and credit crunch/theft.It`s a matter of historical record that they`ll waste their own people at the drop of a hat,let alone some contract security guard.
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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Postby KostasL » 1 decade 5 months ago (Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:56 am)

Thesaint wrote:Sounds like another false flag.The "synagogue bombs and stinger missiles "plot"" fiasco a little while ago fell flat on it`s face.
The Judeo-supremacists are desperate for sympathy after all the bad publicity they`ve been getting due to the Gaza slaughter and credit crunch/theft.It`s a matter of historical record that they`ll waste their own people at the drop of a hat,let alone some contract security guard.


Mossad and other Jewish criminal organizations have proved to be unscrupulous. :oops:

They are capable of anything if it helps their causes. :oops:
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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Postby Kiwichap » 1 decade 5 months ago (Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:14 am)

The museum normally has a heavy security presence with guards positioned both inside and outside.

What's up in America??? Ya just gotta laugh.

Come down to New Zealand, we have lots of museums, and not a security guard in sight.

What is so valuable in that place that ya gotta protect it with guards inside and out?

I reckon they are protecting a web of lies, woven by a pack of lying bastards?
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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Postby KostasL » 1 decade 5 months ago (Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:44 am)

Kiwichap wrote:The museum normally has a heavy security presence with guards positioned both inside and outside.

What's up in America??? Ya just gotta laugh.

Come down to New Zealand, we have lots of museums, and not a security guard in sight.

What is so valuable in that place that ya gotta protect it with guards inside and out?


Yeah, that's also true for Greece.

We got a lot of museums full of invaluable antiquities but very little security guard. :wink:

They got heavy security presence for a literally empty museum, the Holocaust Memorial Museum.
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Perhaps, they are trying to underline the value of emptiness ? :lol:
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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Postby Goethe » 1 decade 5 months ago (Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:57 am)

The museum normally has a heavy security presence with guards positioned both inside and outside.

So how does this man get a rifle/shotgun into the place?

"White supremacist"? Talk about projection, this is it. The all too real Jewish supremacists are merely passing a characteristic that they possess on to someone else.

Now watch for more attempts to imprison Thought Criminals as the Jewish supremacists attempt to paint Revisionists as violence proned and dangerous .... 'we must protect the children'.

The museum houses exhibits and records relating to the Holocaust more than a half century ago in which more than six million Jews were killed by the Nazis.

Rubbish. What's been created is a veritable theme park for the gullible who apparently enjoy believing in such impossibe fantasies. They have no proof for the fabled "6,000,000 and gas chambers" and more and more people are finding out.
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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Postby Erwachtist » 1 decade 5 months ago (Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:00 pm)

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This may be of special interest to a few on here:
Holocaust shooter: A hothead waiting to explode
from washingtonpost.com

James W. von Brunn was growing despondent.

John de Nugent, an acquaintance who describes himself as a white separatist, noticed the change when they last spoke two weeks ago.

"He said his Social Security had been cut and that he was barely making it," de Nugent said. "He felt it was the direct result of someone in Washington looking at his Web site."

In one of his e-mail blasts expressing his white supremacist views, the man police sources say shot and killed a security guard yesterday at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum told readers that they shouldn't expect to hear from him again. Von Brunn was shot and critically wounded by museum guards.


He was about to give away his computer, his primary connection to the fringe world of radical racists. He was living hand to mouth.

The e-mails were getting violent in tone: "It's time to kill all the Jews."

Von Brunn, who lives in Annapolis, was known for decades to fellow white supremacists who read his elaborate conspiracy theories on his Web site and met him through a network of radical racist groups. He was smart enough to join Mensa, but even admirers considered him a loner, a hothead and a man consumed with hatred.

As an avowed white supremacist and anti-Semite, von Brunn was tracked by civil rights groups.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups, has kept an eye on him since 1981. Lately, it has focused on his Web site, http://www.holywesternempire.org. Von Brunn, 88, worked at Noontide Press, a California-based distributor of books on the "Jewish Question."

His book, "Kill the Best Gentiles," is a screed against the Talmud and is dedicated to Revilo Oliver, a well-known denier of the Holocaust. Von Brunn's writings condemning "Negroes" and Jews were prolific.

"We had multiple entries on this guy," said Heidi Beirich, the center's director of research.

Von Brunn's neighbors said yesterday that they invited him to their home for a drink recently. Apropos of nothing, they said, he raised his belief that the Holocaust did not occur.

Todd Blodgett, a former Reagan White House aide who later worked with several extremist groups, met regularly with von Brunn in the 1990s and early 2000s.

"Von Brunn is obsessed with Jewish people," Blodgett said. "He had equal contempt for both Jews and blacks, but if he had to pick one group to wipe out, he'd always say it would be Jews."

Blodgett was part-owner of Resistance Records, which distributed music by white racist groups, and worked for Willis Carto, the founder of Liberty Lobby, a radical right group.

According to Blodgett and a Washington lawyer who met with FBI and IRS agents who used Blodgett as an informant on white supremacist groups, Blodgett worked as a paid informer for federal investigators early this decade.

Von Brunn apparently supported himself through much of the 1980s and '90s by distributing copies of the Spotlight, the Liberty Lobby's racist newspaper. "A lot of people like Von Brunn made some good money taking those around to senior homes, restaurants, gun shows and places like that," Blodgett said.

Blodgett said that he never filed reports to the FBI specifically about Von Brunn but that "he was probably around when I was wired."

In his conversations with Von Brunn, "you'd get the impression that he was intelligent and a bit off. . . . He was much more adept at understanding the Internet than any other white supremacist of that generation," Blodgett said. "He was very, very interested in the potential for Resistance Records to bring in a new generation of supremacists who were a cut above the knuckle-dragger types."

Von Brunn sometimes spoke of having fought for the wrong side in World War II, Blodgett said, and the two men sometimes attended meetings in Arlington County of the American Friends of the British National Party, which raised funds for the British white supremacist group.

Blodgett said that von Brunn never spoke of violent action in their conversations but that "a lot of these people, when they get toward the end of life, they say they've wasted all these years hating, and they want to make a statement somehow."

Von Brunn's ex-wife said she divorced him about 30 years ago when she could no longer take his racist beliefs.

"When he talked about [race], he would get verbally abusive because I didn't really want to talk about it," said the 69-year-old woman, who lives in Florida and said she would speak to reporters if they would agree not to name her. "It was always against the Jews and the blacks."

The woman said she had not talked to authorities about the man she was married to for a decade.

"We absolutely detested his beliefs," she said. "I am disheartened the young guard was killed."

She said von Brunn once predicted that he would "go out with his boots on."

On Dec. 7, 1981, he walked into the Federal Reserve headquarters on Constitution Avenue NW with a handgun and threatened to take members of the Board of Governors, including then-Chairman Paul A. Volcker, hostage.


Police said he had an 11-page document, which he characterized as an exposé of an "international bankers' conspiracy to rule all nations from one central seat of government." Court records said he intended to place them under citizens arrest and charge them with treason.

At his trial, von Brunn said that his goal was to "deport all Jews and blacks from the white nations" and that statistics on IQs of black and white Americans "proved that there is one race that is better than another." He also testified that "Jews were the greatest liars that have ever afflicted mankind."

He was convicted of armed kidnapping, among other charges, and sentenced to a minimum of nearly four years up to a maximum of 11 years and three months at the Ray Brook federal prison in Upstate New York. The court also requested a psychological evaluation for Brunn while in prison.

After his release, von Brunn joined Mensa, the society for top scorers on intelligence tests. A Mensa official said von Brunn was dropped from membership for failure to pay dues.

De Nugent called von Brunn a genius but described the shooting as the act of "a loner and a hothead."

"The responsible white separatist community condemns this," he said. "It makes us look bad
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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 5 months ago (Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:03 pm)

Peaceful means to end the holocaust myth is the only way to go.

I feel bad for the security guard who was shot.

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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 5 months ago (Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:01 pm)

Carto's Cutlass Supreme wrote:Peaceful means to end the holocaust myth is the only way to go.

I feel bad for the security guard who was shot.
I second that. Violence is what the "Holocaust Industry" hopes to provoke.

It is Jewish Supremacists who are generally the violent ones as they attack Revisionists, support the cleary violent apartheid state of Israel, and demand that those who have debunked the absurd 'holocaust' story line be imprisoned.

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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Postby Halo » 1 decade 4 months ago (Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:28 am)

Michael Rivero has some very good points here:

http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast//wha ... 061009.mp3

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Re: Holocaust Museum Shooting

Postby widmann » 1 decade 4 months ago (Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:29 pm)

The CODOH Revisionist library has decided to refeature this article by Paul Grubach:

The Holocaust as an Ideological Danger, by Paul Grubach

This article which was originally posted last year is being featured once again in light of the tragic shooting of June 10th at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum and the comments by certain individuals and organizations which suggest that the belief system of Holocaust revisionism can lead to violence. The murder of Stephen Johns, a guard at the USHMM by a deranged gunman should be condemned by all thoughtful people. Revisionism is at its heart a peace movement. Revisionism is not about hate nor is it about violence. Revisionism is intended to arrive at the facts about various historical events in light of a more objective attitude. Grubach in his article demonstrates that the Holocaust itself can be and has been used as an ideological weapon. A proper understanding of what did and did not happen during this tragic time in our history should lead to a better understanding between peoples and nations. Hatred begets hatred. Violence begets violence. There is no room for either here.


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