PatrickSMcNally wrote:
Address your query in that direction: "ASMarques, what on earth does the hypocritical attitude of Jewish groups have to do with whether or not the change of the plaque allows a real demographic conclusion to be drawn about world Jewish population and immigration?"
At last we seem to be making some progress!
1) The short reply, underlining the all-important word "real":
Not much, except in the sense that the "hypocritical attitude of Jewish groups" is real enough, and helps real demographic conclusions to remain unattainable while based on surreal fantasies like the 4 million, the 1.5 million or the 6 million figures. All one can do is to point out the inconsistencies of the silly successive (or even simultaneous!) fantasies and the Jewish indulgence, promotion, and profiting in them.2) The longer reply, trying to get away from the silly, amusing but
à la longue tedious and rather infantile PatrickSMcNally's seesaw argument:
I assume that by "the hypocritical attitude of Jewish groups" you mean the "anything goes, as long as Jews are made to look good, duly victimized, and consequently compensated" attitude, including, of course, the 4 -- or nearly 4, or 1.5, or nearly 1.5, or 6, or 9, or whatever -- million claim.
We absolutely agree on that one.
But you should add a second kind of more sophisticated hypocrisy that seems to elude your attention, "the hypocritical attitude of the judeophile 'Holocaust' scholars," who didn't and don't emit the slightest audible protest squeak (not to be confused with a few possible entries in half-secret diaries, or academic buried bottles to be discovered in the far future by the public), often found instead doing their utmost, for as long as possible, to facilitate the larger kind of "hypocritical attitude of Jewish groups" through their silences and professionally fine-tuned obfuscations and postponements.
You should understand that the "Holocaust" has been -- and continues to be -- an "anything goes" orgy of Jewish exploitation, historical misrepresentation and, at best, indifference to justice and non-Jewish suffering, valid both for those you call "the Jewish groups" at large, and the much smaller group that we may call the judeophile "Holocaust scholarship" community.
Of course, an important point you seem to completely miss is the simple fact that the level of toleration of our stupid societies, stupid as they are and are likely to go on being "Holocaust"-wise, for the vast outdoor orgy of the larger "Jewish groups" could not possibly be expected to be strictly identical to the one shown to the much more specialized and constraint-filled indoor orgy of the "Holocaust" pseudo-scholars.
In short: when it comes to the religion of the "Holocaust" Golden Calf, you cannot expect the learned calfology of the priesthood, specializing in the many branches of the principle of the scholastic harmony of logical contraries, to be identical to the lack of sophistication of the "gimme!" host at large.
But neither should you use that obvious distinction -- that could never have been expected not to exist -- to pretend that the priesthood has been denouncing the miracles of the Golden Calf and insisting that they be scientifically investigated.
You cannot confuse the miracle of the jewification of the indistinct sacred relics, with the miracle of the gentilification of the no-longer sacred relics, the miracle of the morphing of the many relics into the vastly fewer relics, the miracle of the dejewification of the exploitation of the relics, or the even more astounding miracle of the total vanishing of the relics.
And still less to pretend that the priests & theologians of the Golden Calf are the ones who have been trying their best to throw light on the matter, with no one noticing until the heretical revisionist onslaught made a reluctant aggiornamento of the creed absolutely necessary to prolong its life.
To the priesthood those are all separate miracles, never to be considered together --indeed that's the first commandment directly given by the Golden Calf himself to the high-priesthood on Mount Israel -- and the only ones who have been trying to examine the whole matter of the relics both in overall context and detail are the religious skeptics, vilified and persecuted, not promoted and incensed like the priesthood and the sainted theologians.Hope that helps. I have to go now.
Do something more creative and less repetitive, PatrickSMcNally, like starting a new thread on the efforts of the "Holocaust scholars" to promote and popularize in academe the Leuchter and the Rudolf reports on the (empty) holy reliquaries.
