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Re: strategies to fight the Thought Police: Germar Rudolf

Postby joachim neander » 1 decade 1 month ago (Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:43 pm)

Lamprecht wrote:The only reason why using false degrees would seem to be bad manners is because people seem to think that ones arguments are more valid if he/she studied the field in school, although that is definitely not the case at all - a high-school dropout can have just as powerful arguments as someone with a PhD in the same subject.
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1) That seems to have been the primary intention of Mr. Rudolf: giving his "research" an air of scholarly respectability.
2) Maybe, in some instances. History, regretfully, is a field in which one needs to have done a lot of studying until one is able to pronounce a solid argument that stands the critique of the scholarly community. Particularly in dealing with the Holocaust, the researcher must have a good reading knowledge of German, Polish, Russian, Yiddish and Hebrew, to be able to read and interpret the relevant documents without the - questionable - help of translators.

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Re: strategies to fight the Thought Police: Germar Rudolf

Postby Lamprecht » 1 decade 1 month ago (Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:58 pm)

It seems to me that Rudolf just added the degrees so those who disagree with him and actually have engineering degrees or whatever wouldn't dismiss his arguments as nonsense on the basis that they went to school and studied it while he didn't.
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Re: strategies to fight the Thought Police: Germar Rudolf

Postby Hektor » 1 decade 1 month ago (Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:40 am)

Lamprecht wrote:The only reason why using false degrees would seem to be bad manners is because people seem to think that ones arguments are more valid if he/she studied the field in school, although that is definitely not the case at all - a high-school dropout can have just as powerful arguments as someone with a PhD in the same subject.
Using a false degree fraudulently, means that you attach a title or academic record to your CV that actually doesn't exist. Germar Rudolf hasn't done that and to imply that he has by accusing him of using "fake degrees" is actually highly dishonest itself.
But as indicated, the whole issue Holocaustians have is just a smoke screen. And this again brings us to the point you are raising here:
There seems to be a common misunderstanding amongst many people that degrees have the power to make your statements on a certain subject more truthful or stronger. The reasoning behind that is actually an appeal to authority, hence a fallacy. What a degree does mean is that you underwent instruction and learning in a certain field and that the knowledge you obtained has been tested and accredited. That doesn't mean that the statements you make in that field are always correct. For example a statement like 1+1=3 doesn't become right, just because someone with a phD says it does. Anyone can tell the professor that he's wrong that 1+1=2 no matter what his education is and he will have won the debate with the professor. Nevertheless you will get academic types that will resort to their degree once the other side, who may not have the same formal education, comes up with better arguments. If they indeed resort to pointing to degree they actually shouldn't have one at all, since they just did fail Logic 101 :wink: . And of course that they've lost the debate.

Rudolf himself has responded to the issue already a while ago: http://www.vho.org/GB/c/GR/CharacterAssassins.html
I can live with that, the Holocaustians actually can't live without it or so it seems. Or why are they trying to bring up once in a while? Certainly not because their own real arguments are that good.

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Re: strategies to fight the Thought Police: Germar Rudolf

Postby Markion » 1 decade 1 month ago (Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:20 am)

Funny how liars and distorters of truth who turned the whole academical business into a cultural-marxist madhouse, complete with inquisition, Soviet-style show trials, "criticism and self-criticism" sessions, gender and quota restrictions etc., argue about good manners.
Seriously, Dr. Neander, since people are persecuted for expressing their opinion and judgements - thought crime - it is hypocritical and ignorant to argue against someone using pen names. Since, as was explained, Mr. Rudolf did not attach that incredibly precious academical title to his own name, your accusation/allegation of using fraudulent titles is itself completely wrong. Me, you, we all know that getting academical titles nowaday has close to nothing to do with science any more but with connections, opportunism, privileges. Since you are an academic, you should know best.

Fellows, it had no sense trying to address people like Neander, better try to speak to and enlighten neutral observers. You will never succeed in undoing the fanaticism and (self-applied) brainwashing of the elite. These are just exactly the likes of charaters which brought up all the lies in the first place.
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Re: strategies to fight the Thought Police: Germar Rudolf

Postby holographic » 1 decade 1 month ago (Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:48 am)

Germar helps to expose the paranoid nature of so-called "free Germany". Even if a given researcher/historian was completely literate in German, Polish, Russian, Yiddish,Hebrew, and of course Magyar; it would be of no use to him in a so-called 'court of law' if his work contradicts the "official story". Regardless if that court was comprised of the "scholarly community" or the judiciary of the State. A "good reading knowledge" of Hebrew and Greek provides a (potentially) more comprhensive interpretation of the Bible, yet regardless if one is multi-lingual or not, you ARE allowed to argue FOR or AGAINST it without fear of an inquisition, beating, or stoning. Genesis gives an alleged scientific, cubit by cubit accounting of Noah's Ark. The science of the numbers does NOTHING to confirm the veracity of the said Ark as WE ARE DEALING WITH "INHERITED KNOWLEDGE". Inherited knowledge lends itself to revisionism quite readily as there is always the chance that new discoveries will be made that either enhance or detract from an "official interpretation". "Genesis" is a work in progress. Creation continues...sometimes by adding to, and in other instances, stripping away.

I would say that 99 per cent of what we "know" about Noah's Ark has NO physical evidence to confirm its veracity; for most, it's a matter of faith. The same applies to the "holocaust" as confirmed by Van Pelt.....what we "know" is also "inherited knowledge", and most of this inherited knowledge is sound and fury....signifying nothing!

Germar should be given free reign and unhindered publication rights as his work may further the confirmation of Van Pelt's thesis. i.e "actually, 99.99 per cent of what we know about the holocaust we do not have the physical evidence to prove." Free and unhindered publication of his material would afford the "scholarly community" a challenge for once. It just might make his opponents lives more interesting than just the tired repetition of spouting the official dogma. The religious can be so narrow minded.

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Re: strategies to fight the Thought Police: Germar Rudolf

Postby holographic » 1 decade 4 weeks ago (Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:52 pm)

In a sphere where ANY contradiction of an alleged official story is challenged, coupled with imprisonment for those who attempt it; makes a strong case for the very challenging of the said allegation. Affirmationists should freely welcome the unhindered publication of revisionist works if for no other reason than to expose its alleged faults. But we're not dealing with honesty in regard to the affirmationist line, we're dealing with cowardly lawyers.

Observe how conceit and hostility go together. Observe how assumptions are in fact laziness posing as fact. Observe how insecure the affirmationist line is that they make rules which don't allow for fair play. It's "tough" for the affirmationist though, exploited people are often reluctant to look at their exploitation. Angry desperation is their only response to whatever threatens their shaky pretense. Observe how those who feel that they are victims will be most eager to make victims of others. Observe how persons with no mind of their own aside from the collective, will fiercely try to prevent others from having minds of their own.


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