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Re: The Famous THIRTY TREBLINKA QUESTIONS

Postby Pepper » 1 decade 2 months ago (Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:09 am)

And here is the link to one of the sources that Lamprecht says are "the only two options for the source of the image."

M. Weber and A. Allen, "Treblinka," The Journal of Historical Review, Summer 1992


http://www.vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/12/2 ... 3-158.html

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Re: The Famous THIRTY TREBLINKA QUESTIONS

Postby Pepper » 1 decade 2 months ago (Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:18 am)

The VHO source that is listed lists the IHR as a source.

http://www.vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/19/3/Radar20.html


Looks like it's going round and round, but the source of the photo can't be found.

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Re: The Famous THIRTY TREBLINKA QUESTIONS

Postby Pepper » 1 decade 2 months ago (Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:10 am)

Lamprecht

I believe that the only two options for the source of the image, if legit, are... and more likely:



Why do you believe they would be the ONLY two options Lamprecht?


Lamprecht

In the case of the 2nd, we would need personal verification.



Have you contacted the IHR to ask them if that photo appears in that article?

If not, why not?

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Re: The Famous THIRTY TREBLINKA QUESTIONS

Postby Lamprecht » 1 decade 2 months ago (Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:46 pm)

Pepper:
The odd thing is that Krege concluded, from his scan, that there were no mass graves @ Treblinka


What's so odd about that Lamprecht?
It was a poor choice of words I guess, I misunderstood your position.
You can ignore the statement.

#3 - The remains of how many jews do you think are buried in Treblinka?

#4 - How many graves do you think there are at Treblinka?
I do not think there is one "Mass grave" in Treblinka, and there are probably very few Jews buried. I would be surprised if it exceeded 100, as I said, and I'd bet money that it is less than 0.1%.

I do not know the exact number and I'm not going to pretend to know. I have not gone to Treblinka and tested it myself.

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No photo posted.

Is that why Lamprecht didn't give us a link in his post?
I didn't have the link to check if it was there, that's why I didn't give a link to it.

Why do you believe they would be the ONLY two options Lamprecht?
Because the other's didn't have it, but I guess it only leaves one now, doesn't it?


Have you contacted the IHR to ask them if that photo appears in that article?

If not, why not?
No, I haven't, and I was looking for Krege's email earlier to ask him but I didn't find it.
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Re: The Famous THIRTY TREBLINKA QUESTIONS

Postby Pepper » 1 decade 2 months ago (Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:09 pm)

Lamprecht

It was a poor choice of words I guess, I misunderstood your position.



My position had nothing to do with your statement.

You made the statement, as well as others that supported your "poor choice of words," then avoided my question, even lied about not answering it, and now you proffer a non sequitur.

I find that odd.


Lamprecht

I do not think there is one "Mass grave" in Treblinka, and there are probably very few Jews buried. I would be surprised if it exceeded 100



So why would you be surprised that Krege said he found no mass graves?

Your "reasoning" is faulty at best and now you're spewing yet another contradiction.


Lamprecht


I guess it only leaves one now, doesn't it?



Well then, have you contacted the The Canberra Times?

If not why not?


A new question for you Lamprecht

Combined, how many people do you think died while en route to and after arival at Treblinka II?
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Re: The Famous THIRTY TREBLINKA QUESTIONS

Postby Pepper » 1 decade 2 months ago (Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:36 pm)

Pepper

Lamprecht, can you prove that that scan is an actual scan taken by Krege?

Yes or No?



Lamprecht

At the moment, no, I can't.



Please let us know how your research is going and what sources you've investigated and what sources you haven't.

Would you do that for us?

Could you show us a list of all the sources you believe are possibilities with the ones you've eliminated?

If you share the list with all of us, we can all work on it together.


Lamprecht


I'd bet money that it is less than 0.1%.



I assume that you mean that you would bet money that there is less than 1% of the claimed 870,000 allegedly murdered jews buried at Treblinka?


And just so you don't forget:

Have you contacted the The Canberra Times?

If not why not?

And:

Combined, how many people do you think died while en route to and after arrival at Treblinka II?

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Re: The Famous THIRTY TREBLINKA QUESTIONS

Postby Lamprecht » 1 decade 2 months ago (Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:46 pm)

Pepper
Please let us know how your research is going and what sources you've investigated and what sources you haven't.

Would you do that for us?

Could you show us a list of all the sources you believe are possibilities with the ones you've eliminated?

If you share the list with all of us, we can all work on it together.
My list is now just asking Krege personally.

I assume that you mean that you would bet money that there is less than 1% of the claimed 870,000 allegedly murdered jews buried at Treblinka?


And just so you don't forget:

Have you contacted the The Canberra Times?

If not why not?
1/10 of 1% is 0.1%, isn't it? I'm not that bad at math.

And I haven't contacted them because it would be useless if I can contact Krege himself and have him personally verify it.

Combined, how many people do you think died while en route to and after arrival at Treblinka II?
I don't know, I was not there and I probably don't know as much about the conditions as you.
But I do not think the total would exceed 100.
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Re: The Famous THIRTY TREBLINKA QUESTIONS

Postby Pepper » 1 decade 2 months ago (Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:45 am)

Lamprecht

My list is now just asking Krege personally.



Well, that would simplify things, wouldn't it? Good luck.

Have you contacted the Adelaide Institute? That would be my suggestion for a place to start.

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/

But do you even know if that photo was included in the Canberra Times article?

Why not check and see while you're trying to contact Krege?

Here is there web link:

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/

I would think that after making this statement:

"I believe that the only two options for the source of the image..."


You would at least follow up on it and tell us in no uncertain terms whether or not that photo appeared in those articles or not.


Lamprecht

1/10 of 1% is 0.1%, isn't it? I'm not that bad at math.



No, but it looks like I am.

But what I was trying to get at was - 0.1% of what? 0.1% of 870,000?

Are you saying that you would bet money that the number of jews who died en route to and after arrival at Treblinka II is less than 0.1% of 870,000?



Pepper

Combined, how many people do you think died while en route to and after arrival at Treblinka II?


Lamprecht

I do not think the total would exceed 100.



If that were the case, then wouldn’t it be entirely plausible that that small a number of dead would have been buried in the nearby Treblinka I cemetery?

Now you know why Krege found no mass graves at Treblinka.

Nothing odd about it.

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Re: The Famous THIRTY TREBLINKA QUESTIONS

Postby jnovitz » 1 decade 2 months ago (Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:22 pm)

Lamprecht, I am not sure how important this is for you.

there is a nice video of Krege at work that is somewhere on codoh. Hannover will probably know the URL.

The scan was originally from the canberra times or the adelaide advertiser and was presumably provided by Krege to the paper himself.

I agree that its highly unsatisfactory that no official report was published. He is quite easy to find in the Quenbeyan phonebook if you want to ask him politely why. I never have, but I should one day. I think if we knew the answer we might find out why revisionism never goes anywhere.

Having visited the site, myself, sans GPR, I can quite believe his results however.

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Re: The Famous THIRTY TREBLINKA QUESTIONS

Postby Pepper » 1 decade 2 months ago (Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:09 pm)

BTW Drew, I just notice something odd.

The 30 Treblinka questions that you posted are slightly different than the 30 Treblinka questions that I have.

In fact, the "30" Treblinka questions that you posted are only 27 questions.

Did you make that change, or did Gerdes or someone else?

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Re: The Famous THIRTY TREBLINKA QUESTIONS

Postby PatrickSMcNally » 1 decade 2 months ago (Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:17 pm)

jnovitz wrote:I agree that its highly unsatisfactory that no official report was published. He is quite easy to find in the Quenbeyan phonebook if you want to ask him politely why. I never have, but I should one day. I think if we knew the answer we might find out why revisionism never goes anywhere.

Germar Rudolf had intended to publish the Krege report before his abduction in 2005. Although he has since been released from prison, no one should hold their breath waiting for him to publish anything else now. You should raise this as an issue to the current management of Theses & Dissertations Press if it interests you.

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Re: The Famous THIRTY TREBLINKA QUESTIONS

Postby Lamprecht » 1 decade 2 months ago (Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:35 pm)

Pepper says
Well, that would simplify things, wouldn't it? Good luck.

Have you contacted the Adelaide Institute? That would be my suggestion for a place to start.

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/
No, I will soon.

But do you even know if that photo was included in the Canberra Times article?

Why not check and see while you're trying to contact Krege?

Here is there web link:

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/
They don't have the article archived.


No, but it looks like I am.

But what I was trying to get at was - 0.1% of what? 0.1% of 870,000?

Are you saying that you would bet money that the number of jews who died en route to and after arrival at Treblinka II is less than 0.1% of 870,000?
Yes for all.


If that were the case, then wouldn’t it be entirely plausible that that small a number of dead would have been buried in the nearby Treblinka I cemetery?
It would make sense, yes.
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Re: The Famous THIRTY TREBLINKA QUESTIONS

Postby Lamprecht » 1 decade 2 months ago (Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:37 pm)

jnovitz wrote:Lamprecht, I am not sure how important this is for you.

there is a nice video of Krege at work that is somewhere on codoh. Hannover will probably know the URL.

The scan was originally from the canberra times or the adelaide advertiser and was presumably provided by Krege to the paper himself.

If it is the short few minute video that has circulated around Youtube, I have seen it and it doesn't have that specific scan.

The CT article isn't online (They only have the end of that year archived) and I haven't found Krege's email.
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Re: The Famous THIRTY TREBLINKA QUESTIONS

Postby Pepper » 1 decade 2 months ago (Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:46 pm)

It's funny how the hoaxers are trying so hard to hang on to this red herring.

Mullenkamp wrote the following on topix (post 366)


Mulenkamp

…the fellow is obviously referring to Richard Krege’s GPR show... What is more… Conyers wrote the following:

…It is apparent that this guy [Krege] either does not know anything of GPR, or at the very least does not know how to process it. To really do a good job, the data need to be put into a 3-D cube of reflections and processed in a batch, including ALL the profiles collected... This is NOT a scientific or representive study of the ground by any stretch… that image is too vague for me to make ANY conclusions at all



So the hoaxers are now claiming as evidence what they once called useless and unscientific.

It just shows how much the bottom feeders are desperately scraping at the bottom of the barrel.

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Re: The Famous THIRTY TREBLINKA QUESTIONS

Postby Pepper » 1 decade 2 months ago (Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:33 pm)

jnovitz


The scan was originally from the canberra times or the adelaide advertiser and was presumably provided by Krege to the paper himself.



Can you tell us how you know this?

Can you prove it?

Here is there web link to the Canberra Times:

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/


Here is the web link to the adelaide advertiser

http://adelaideadvertiser.newspaperdire ... iewer.aspx


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