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Wikipedia bans any reference to CODOH

Postby astro3 » 1 decade 3 months ago (Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:02 pm)

I have been of late the subject of a Wikipedia character-assassination (at least, I presume that was the motive)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Kollerstrom

A colleague (writing in the Discussion section) suggested that if hardly anything except my 'Holocaust denial' was worth mentioning in this 'biography', then should one not put a link to the main site where my articles on this topic are located? Ie CODOH, the world's number one Revisionist website? O no - it is fine for Wiki to have references to character-assassinating newspaper articles, but not OK to link to the author's own statements on the matter posted on CODOH.

Presumably the journalists know much better the me about my own views.

If you enter the Discussion section you will see, 'codoh and press TV are not reliable sources; please don't link to them again.'

Wiki here describes CODOH as a 'far-right' website.

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Re: Wikipedia bans any reference to CODOH

Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 3 months ago (Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:26 pm)

Hi Nick,

I commend you for all your great work and courageousness.

Yes, that second to last sentence is a real 'hit piece' sentence. I wonder if you had your own website with the articles if they'd refuse to link to that.

It's distressing I know. But maybe just think of other things you can do, work arounds. Other ways to spread the truth.

That's pretty cool that you were early into biodynamics.

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Re: Wikipedia bans any reference to CODOH

Postby Eiztarigorri » 1 decade 3 months ago (Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:58 pm)

Strange thing because Wikipedia have no problems to put external links when it speaks on pornography. May be Progressive people wish to exert a Tutor role regarding the minor inernet users because they are very clever and intelligent but normal internet users are very clumsy.

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Re: Wikipedia bans any reference to CODOH

Postby Heydrich » 1 decade 3 months ago (Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:00 pm)

"Wiki here describes CODOH as a 'far-right' website."

Yes, it is far right, in terms of it is right!

Laughable unproven allegations, that's whats Jewpedia is all about.

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Re: Wikipedia bans any reference to CODOH

Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 3 months ago (Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:31 pm)

the "Kollerstrom takes astrology quite seriously" is an unfair put-down also. If you're a holocaust denier, they exploit any other thing about your life to put you down.

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Re: Wikipedia bans any reference to CODOH

Postby Ilikerealhistory » 1 decade 3 months ago (Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:36 pm)

astro3 wrote:I have been of late the subject of a Wikipedia character-assassination (at least, I presume that was the motive)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Kollerstrom

A colleague (writing in the Discussion section) suggested that if hardly anything except my 'Holocaust denial' was worth mentioning in this 'biography', then should one not put a link to the main site where my articles on this topic are located? Ie CODOH, the world's number one Revisionist website? O no - it is fine for Wiki to have references to character-assassinating newspaper articles, but not OK to link to the author's own statements on the matter posted on CODOH.




Thank you for standing up against the BIG LIE!!

Wikipedia is afraid that someone might read your article and figure out that what you and CODAH represent are correct. (I have not read your article)

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Re: Wikipedia bans any reference to CODOH

Postby PotPie » 1 decade 3 months ago (Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:01 pm)

Heydrich wrote:"Wiki here describes CODOH as a 'far-right' website."

Yes, it is far right, in terms of it is right!

Laughable unproven allegations, that's whats Jewpedia is all about.


As if CODOH supports any kind of political party or political thought. It's one of many examples of how slurs are used in Wiki articles and those who attempt to correct such things are put down for it. You can't even edit to make it non-biased. I tried that with the Leuchter Report and my edits were removed almost immediately. All articles pertaining to revisionism appear to have been written by the ADL or a similar hostile entity. The ADL has a long track record of attempting to control the public mind by controlling the flow of information and making all kinds of behind-the-scenes threats. It is not out of the question that this group has threatened the staff of Wikipedia.
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Re: Wikipedia bans any reference to CODOH

Postby PotPie » 1 decade 3 months ago (Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:04 pm)

Ilikerealhistory wrote:Wikipedia is afraid that someone might read your article and figure out that what you and CODAH represent are correct. (I have not read your article)


Wikipedia's politics are thoroughly mainstream. Every politically correct taboo and moral outlook is represented in their writings as base foundational truths. In short, Wiki's articles are written in such a way as to pass the sniff test with the ADL/Al Sharpton/LaRaza crowd. If you're looking for unbiased presentation and original thought, Wikipedia is not your place. Wikipedia are the stenographers of power.

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Re: Wikipedia bans any reference to CODOH

Postby nathan » 1 decade 3 months ago (Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:20 am)

Wikipedia quotes Kollerstrom as saying Auschwitz was "like a holiday camp." Did he actually use these words?

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Re: Wikipedia bans any reference to CODOH

Postby astro3 » 1 decade 2 months ago (Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:25 am)

No, of course I never said or wrote that Auschwitz was ‘like a holiday camp’! There are powerful liars and character-assassins at work here - its what the media like. That statement went all round the British media, so my friends were talking about it in shocked, hushed tones and half of them wouldn't speak to me anymore. (Whereas my actual interest in the subject, as based on chemical evidence of cyanide in the walls of the old buildings, was absolutely not mentioned.) This view seems to derive from what I wrote on the ‘School Trips to Auschwitz,’ last para. http://www.codoh.com/incon/incontrip.html (I doubt whether it derives from my ‘Auschwitz in Memoriam’ thread, which surveyed evidence for the amenities in that camp. I there wrote: ‘Violently incompatible stories swirl about the little town of Oswiecim/Auschwitz, as if two quite different places had somehow managed to co-exist there, sixty years ago. These stories cannot all be true.’) viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4332&p=28042&hilit=Auschwitz+in+Memoriam#p28042

Thank you Carlo’s Cutlass very much for your encouraging words.

If you go into the History section if my Wiki-Bio, you will see the list of contributors. They are, erm ALL JEWISH. Now, some of my best friends are Jewish. Don’t get me wrong. You will see just one non-Jewish contributor ‘Lockstone,’ a colleague who kindly tried to make some decent corrections, but he found they kept being deleted.

These Wiki-Jews are 1. Refusing to make any link to CODOH, 2. Citing spurious defamatory gossip as long as its Jewish (Jewish Chronicle, Jerusalem Post, Messrs Cohen and Aronowitz in national UK newspapers) 3. Wanting to mis-quote from the CODOH articles.

Here is what they are now saying about CODOH on my Bio – as well as saying it is ‘far-right’: 'The CODOH was founded in 1987 by Bradley R. Smith and Mark Weber of the Institute for Historical Review, described by Searchlight as the world's leading forum for Holocaust denial. Searchlight describes Weber as a former member of the white separatist National Alliance.'

Weber has nothing whatsoever to do with CODOH, does he? It is run by Bradley Smith, period. I think it would be nice if there could be some statement about CODOH being a-political and wishing to avoid partisan opinions about WW2. The words ‘fair and balanced’ could be used here, are regards how a historian ought to approach WW2.

If anyone would like to become a Wiki-editor (easy to sign up) and help (and guide) me here, I’d be very grateful. I believe we do have a right to insist that the ref: http://www.codoh.com/author/kollerstrom.html be included.

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Re: Wikipedia bans any reference to CODOH

Postby widmann » 1 decade 2 months ago (Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:47 pm)

It appears to be time for someone with some energy to create two Wikipedia pages. One for Bradley R. Smith. The Second for CODOH. There is sufficient information on this site to create an accurate portrait. Much valuable information can be found here:
http://www.codoh.com/author/portraits/port7smith.html

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Re: Wikipedia bans any reference to CODOH

Postby nathan » 1 decade 2 months ago (Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:42 am)

I see the phrase “like a holiday camp” has disappeared. I still see:

Britain's Index on Censorship asked Brendan O'Neill of Spiked and "Unity" of Liberal Conspiracy to comment on Kollerstrom's loss of his fellowship. Unity argued that it was justified because of the poor scholarship and lack of judgment evident in Kollerstrom's essays.


A friend took this to be a reference to Kollerstrom’s essays written for UCL; he thought there were marks against Kollerstrom as an astronomer. “Unity” in the Index article actually specified essays about Auschwitz. However, re-editing to “essays about Auschwitz” might in turn mislead another Wikipedia reader into thinking Kollerstrom had a fellowship in History. So I asked my friend also to change “fellowship” to “fellowship in Science and Technology Studies” If my friend’s re-editings are preserved, they will capture Unity’s logic more clearly. He cannot object to this small change. Things should now read:

Britain's Index on Censorship asked Brendan O'Neill of Spiked and "Unity" of Liberal Conspiracy to comment on Kollerstrom's loss of his fellowship in Science and Technology studies. Unity argued that it was justified because of the poor scholarship and lack of judgment evident in Kollerstrom's essays about Auschwitz

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Re: Wikipedia bans any reference to CODOH

Postby Ilikerealhistory » 1 decade 2 months ago (Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:34 am)

astro3, It is almost like they are saying because you can't spell, you are a bad mathematician.


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