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Re: Diesel Gassings

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:12 pm)

Rollo-the-Ganger came charging back with this gem:

but if you want a stoichiometric balance you must run the engine at a 14 - 15 to 1 AFR and your carbon to oxygen ratio for producing CO2 will be balanced.


Well, Rollo-the-Ganger just how do you get the diesel to run at "14-15 to 1 AFR?" Please explain.

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Re: Diesel Gassings

Postby Rollo the Ganger » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:11 pm)

Rollo the Ganger, I have deleted your BS in this post because it has nothing to do with
FPB's question
FPB wrote:“Well, Rollo-the-Ganger just how do you get the diesel to run at "14-15 to 1 AFR?" Please explain.”

Your actual answer is:
Rollo the Ganger wrote:http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=0h&oq=stoichiometr&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4TSNA_enUS359US359&q=stoichiometry+of+diesel+engines

Now, change your tone in your posts or you are history here.
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Re: Diesel Gassings

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:51 pm)

Rollo-the Ganger is simply running away from my simple question.

“Well, Rollo-the-Ganger just how do you get the diesel to run at "14-15 to 1 AFR?" Please explain.”

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Re: Diesel Gassings

Postby Rollo the Ganger » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:19 pm)

Here Berg, try this site:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... el+engines

This answers your question. The author of this work can explain it to you better than I can.

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Re: Diesel Gassings

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:51 pm)

That is NO answer at all, Rollo-the-Ganger. The link you gave is merely a link to 31,500 other links.

Obviously, you have no idea as to what you were talking about.
Moderator 2 wrote:Mr. Berg, I have deleted your BS in this post because it has nothing to do with Rollo-the-Ganger question. Like him, change your tone or you are history here.


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Re: Diesel Gassings

Postby Rollo the Ganger » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:44 pm)

Hey FGB (pronounced "FiGBy"),

Let's tone it down before we both get kicked off the forum. I'm having too much fun myself. No hard feelings on this end. Well, I apologize about the last link. Here are others:

http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?&verb=getRe ... =ADA316512

http://www.mesj.or.jp/mesj_e/english/pu ... 000p08.pdf

http://hhopower.wordpress.com/diesel-engine-overview/

http://www.tech.plym.ac.uk/sme/ther305-web/Combust1.PDF

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7540279.html

http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/pro ... _id=432682

http://franzh.home.texas.net/lean.html

http://www.scribd.com/doc/25912802/Comb ... sel-Engine

As you can see, stoichiometric combustion in diesel engines is rather common (and common knowledge). Most sources I use say the stoichiometric ratio for diesel is 14.6 to 1 AFR but that really depends on the type of diesel fuel being used so I just said originally 14 - 15 to 1 AFR. You would be advised to read these links carefully and understand what they are saying. Others will and I fear this will compromise the validity of your position.

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Re: Diesel Gassings

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:04 pm)

None of those links is any kind of answer to my simple question.

How do you get the diesel to run at "14-15 to 1 AFR?"


I am challenging Rollo-the Ganger to be specific. Don't just point to general discussions of stoichiometry. That is NO more of an answer than if I would point someone to a technical encyclopedia.

Since you, Rollo-the Ganger, don't really know what you are talking about, just say so. There is no shame in that.

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Re: Diesel Gassings

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:28 pm)

That is still NO answer, Rollo-the-Ganger.

BTW, I have never claimed that one cannot run a diesel at 14-15 to 1 AFR, or even at lower AFR's. I actually do explain, on my website and in my essays, exactly what is needed. But, there are major problems there for the holocaust legend. Why not see if you, Rollo-the-Ganger, are smart enough to figure out what they are? All you have to really do is read my website and essays carefully. It can't be all that painful.

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Re: Diesel Gassings

Postby Rollo the Ganger » 1 decade 1 year ago (Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:39 pm)

Berg, I must confess, I don't get your point. What are you asking me to say about 14 - 15 to 1 AFR for diesel engines, i.e stoichiometric combustion? If you don't think it can be done then you better tell the John Deere Company that. Their John Deere model 6090 diesel engine runs with stoichiometric combustion. I'm sure a John Deere representative would be more than happy to explain their product to you. Let me be specific on this next point. Go to this link which I already suggested:

http://franzh.home.texas.net/lean.html

You'll have to use the scroll function on this site but it was an article put out by a Mr. Franz Hoffman. Mr. Hoffman's credentials as an expert on diesel engine technology is impressive, at least to me. And if you have any question regarding his article he is available online and may answer your questions. Possibly for a fee however. Please note, so don't ask, I will not answer for Mr. Hoffman on anything in his article, for his expertise, I admit, is greater than mine. I only have an academic interest in the subject. Moving along, go to the link and scroll down to the graph under the Diesel Engine portion of the article. Now look at the concentrations of O2, CO2 and CO for the various values of lamba (where a lamba of 1 = stoichiometric mixture). Now, go to any authoritative source on the toxicity of these molecules and look up the lethal concentrations for these molecules. Go back to the graph and please tell me, or maybe Grenadier can chime in, where on that graph, i.e, for what lamba value, will a person not be killed? I can't make it any simpler and easier than that.

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Re: Diesel Gassings

Postby Moderator2 » 1 decade 1 year ago (Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:00 am)

grenadier wrote:Now come on moderators, what's going one here eh? You deleted a perfect valid post from me and another one from another poster and allow this Rollo fellow to dodge direct challenges and use gutter level language in his posts?
Ain't those breaches of the forum guidelines?
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Sorry, you came under crossfire here. I deleted your post by mistake. Please post again. :dontknow:
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Re: Diesel Gassings

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 1 year ago (Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:47 am)

Back to the same question, Rollo-the Ganger. How do you get a diesel engine, John Deere or whatever, to run at an AFR of between 14 and 15. ?

From that article by Franz Hoffman, where or what is there that answers my question? Why not copy whatever you think is there as an answer and post it here.

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Re: Diesel Gassings

Postby Rollo the Ganger » 1 decade 1 year ago (Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:49 am)

Herr Berg,

here is your answer, simple and specific:

Turn the engine ON.

I can explain it to you. I can show you literature on the topic. I can refer you to authorities on the matter. But there is one thing I cannot do. I cannot UNDERSTAND it for you. I do believe we are in agreement on that. Pupil Figby gets an "F".

By the way, did you hear about the Freightliner case? Purportedly an unfortunate trucker was found deceased in his Freightliner sleeper cab (the truck was diesel powered). When his blood was analyzed his carboxyhemoglobin count was at a lethal level (obviously). The man's family is suing Freightliner although I don't know the current status of the case. It is logical to deduce that carbon monoxide fumes from the diesel engine was the agent of death for this most unfortunate individual. If you disagree, and the case is still in litigation, then maybe you can offer your services to Freightliner as an expert witness on the topic. I have my suspicions they would turn down your offer.

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Re: Diesel Gassings

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 1 year ago (Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:58 am)

Is that really your answer, Rollo-the-Ganger? "Turn the engine ON."

Before I bother with a reply, please assure me that you really are serious with that answer.

Are you really suggesting that by simply turning any diesel engine (or any particular diesel, John Deere or whatever) ON it will operate at an AFR between 14 and 15?

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Re: Diesel Gassings

Postby Rollo the Ganger » 1 decade 1 year ago (Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:34 pm)

I'm sure you'll agree with me on this one: I'm absolutely certain that if you don't, it won't. That's the best I can do until you explain what you're really asking. Your question is too simple. I honestly do not have a clue what sort of answer you are looking for although I would have been more than happy to address it if I did. I'm convinced you really don't either and you're playing some rhetorical game which I have no interest in playing. If you are suggesting it can't be done then your argument is with people and companies like Franz Hoffman and John Deere Co. They've convinced me and you haven't offered anything to contradict them. It can be done, period. I've done more than my fair share in this discussion. I've offered authoritative sources on the subject which obviously you fail to read or understand. I've even given you examples of people dying from diesel fumes. Diesel fumes can kill, there's proof positive. Nothing from you except repeating what I've mentioned. I'm beating a dead horse here and it's time to move on. Please give us your denouement on this discussion. Tells us all about stoichiometric combustion in a diesel engine.

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Re: Diesel Gassings

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 1 year ago (Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:47 pm)

Someone drives a diesel pickup truck to your house and gives you the key and ownership of the vehicle. Let's say they also give you big pile of money and a crew of auto mechanics to work with. Just how do you imagine getting the engine of that vehicle to operate at an AFR of 14-15?

The question itself ain't hard or tricky at all. Perhaps, all you have to do is turn the engine ON?

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