David Baker wrote:Jofo, welcome to the world of Revisionism. I have been involved in this activity for almost a decade, and I can tell you with confidence that the 'victims' of the so-called "Holocaust" would rather avoid any sort of official entanglements, particularly courts of law, where their compelling anecdotes would not be admissable. Your 'Burden of Proof' does not follow any tenet of legal discovery. Jews tell us what happened, and we are 'required' to believe them, no matter what mitigating evidence is presented to disprove their claims. First off, they tried the same "Six Million Jews Being Murdered" ruse during the First World War. You never hear about that from the "Exterminationist" camp. Second, the Jews own census data, taken before and after World War Two, shows a modest increase in the Jewish population, certainly not indicative of such a huge loss. Third, there is absolutely NO PROOF of their claim of mass gassings at any so-called "Death Camp". Not one autopsy out of the thousands of procedures performed on camp inmates specifies death by poison gas. The "Gas Chamber" claims were evaluated by highly knowledgable, credentialed forensic investigators, and were determined as being fabricated. Major Holocaust 'eyewitnesses' were exposed as frauds during the Zundel Trial in Canada, and forced to admit they did not witness any of the atrocities they claimed in their volumes of testimony, nor in their 'memoirs'. One other factoid never sees the light of day in this controversy: The fact that Jews DECLARED WAR on Germany. Germany, acting in conjunction with Zionists, deported Jews from occupied territories at first toward Palestine, but later into squalid concentration camps, where many Jews were employed as laborers in war material factories, and fuel synthesizing plants. This is where the "Death Camp" rumors were repeated, and embellished to the point where Jews, after World War Two, related absolutely ridiculous claims about Nazi atrocities at a lynching party named "Nuremberg". Where revisionism surfaces in this realm is the unmistakable similarity between World War One atrocity propaganda campaigns and the campaigns during World War Two. It is virtually a one-to-one comparison that is avoided in 'polite' conversations among eyewitnesses.
1/ First off, they tried the same "Six Million Jews Being Murdered" ruse during the First World War.
Sure, you can provide a proof for that, and of course some german witness or allies officials who confirm that the accusation was taken seriously (if it was ever made)
2/ Second, the Jews own census data, taken before and after World War Two, shows a modest increase in the Jewish population.
So you mean that the census organized by the very Anti-Semite government of Poland in 1921 and 1931, as well as the survey made in 1936 were controled by Jews? As well as the korherr report maybe? As the Jews in Poland constituded more or less 40% of the total Jewish population in Europe. You being right would indeed be something.
So the census data show a increase of the Jewish population?
I hope you are not refering to the world almanac thing!
It would mean that you consider possible that census were held during the Hostilities...almanacs are only data bases taken from census when held or other almanacs from other countries. It is not the result of the scientific team that would have traveled the world counting people.
Or, maybe the almanac guys sent nice letters to the Hitler and Stalin asking them if they could give up a bit of their times to provide their estimation of the Jewish population withing their territories for the year 41 to 44?
3/ Let's leave the gaz chambers behind as it is the root of revisionism and of the debate. It is up to anyone to think what their want.
4./ Well the eyewitnesses have also been the subject of many debates. But to keep focus on your statement. They are not affraid of trials (given their participation on every trials held since 45). Also it is untrue to say that Judges never disregard a witness statement. And of course, all witnesses are not Jews...
5./ The Jews declared war on Germany? Are you refering to the boycot in the early 30's? to the Wiezman declaration of 39? did any German or Polish Jewish organizations took part of it?
Please, share your knowledge.
6./ Germany, acting in conjunction with Zionists, deported Jews from occupied territories at first toward Palestine, but later into squalid concentration camps, where many Jews were employed as laborers in war material factories, and fuel synthesizing plants.
True, about 52.000 German Jews were able to settle in Palestine thanks to the Haavara agreement, at least officially. With the estimations of the illegal immigration, one could reach 285.000 Jews immigrated to Palestine between 1933 and 1940.
So after a decade of research what is your estimation of the number of Jews who came back from those "squalid camps"?